Cashless society ?

[Robertj21a]

bad company said:

Robertj21a said:

bad company said:

Woman fired for accepting cash.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.nottinghampost....

Woman fired for flouting company policy........

Woman fired harshly. Massive backlash against her former employer. The ex employer has had to close their Facebook & Twitter accounts due to adverse comments.

Online petition to get her reinstated:-

https://www.change.org/p/lesley-bird-chief-operati...

Still dismissed for not following company policy. The rest is irrelevant.

[Countdown]

RC1807 said:

So said:

purplepolarbear said:

Tyre Smoke said:

Surely you tell the bank your client insisted on paying cash? If it's all above board, where's the problem?

Would the bank ask who the client was, and would you feel comfortable telling them if they did?

Also, would paying in a large amount of cash trigger someone to look at what you're doing - I'm sure all will work out OK in the end if everything is legitimate but the hassle of being investigated would be stressful and time consuming.

It is a pain in the ass, however all relevant documentation will be taken to prove my side if required.

What he does is not my problem.

....unless it's laundering cash?!

It's still not So's problem, its a problem for the person further up the chain doing the money laundering

RC1807 said:

Also, would paying in a large amount of cash trigger someone to look at what you're doing - I'm sure all will work out OK in the end if everything is legitimate but the hassle of being investigated would be stressful and time consuming.

Highly unlikely of it being looked at. Highly unlikely that, even if it IS looked at it would involve anything more than a check of where the money came from. It certainly wouldn't result in a full audit unless there were multiple amounts of cash deposits being made.

[bad company]

Robertj21a said:

Still dismissed for not following company policy. The rest is irrelevant.

Irrelevant to you perhaps.

[bitchstewie]

Robertj21a said:

bad company said:

Robertj21a said:

bad company said:

Woman fired for accepting cash.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.nottinghampost....

Woman fired for flouting company policy........

Woman fired harshly. Massive backlash against her former employer. The ex employer has had to close their Facebook & Twitter accounts due to adverse comments.

Online petition to get her reinstated:-

https://www.change.org/p/lesley-bird-chief-operati...

Still dismissed for not following company policy. The rest is irrelevant.

That one's a difficult one.

Seems like a poor choice by the lady and a poor choice by the employer.

One where I can really see both perspectives and genuinely don't know the "right" decision.

[Robertj21a]

bad company said:

Robertj21a said:

Still dismissed for not following company policy. The rest is irrelevant.

Irrelevant to you perhaps.

It's irrelevant to everyone else. The lady was an employee and flouted their clear policies.

[craigjm]

Robertj21a said:

bad company said:

Robertj21a said:

Still dismissed for not following company policy. The rest is irrelevant.

Irrelevant to you perhaps.

It's irrelevant to everyone else. The lady was an employee and flouted their clear policies.

The “correct” decision is dismissal because this is the letter of the policy. However, just like in criminal law an equivalent of the public interest test is often taken into account in employment law and most HR directors would have ended that with a decision of a warning short of dismissal.

What we don’t know, however, is the previous history of the employee that is being painted by the media as a saint.

[bad company]

Robertj21a said:

bad company said:

Robertj21a said:

Still dismissed for not following company policy. The rest is irrelevant.

Irrelevant to you perhaps.

It's irrelevant to everyone else. The lady was an employee and flouted their clear policies.

Not irrelevant to the ex employee who was badly treated and definitely not irrelevant to the company who are suffering from the online backlash. They’ve had to delete their Twitter and Facebook accounts.

[Robertj21a]

bad company said:

Robertj21a said:

bad company said:

Robertj21a said:

Still dismissed for not following company policy. The rest is irrelevant.

Irrelevant to you perhaps.

It's irrelevant to everyone else. The lady was an employee and flouted their clear policies.

Not irrelevant to the ex employee who was badly treated and definitely not irrelevant to the company who are suffering from the online backlash. They’ve had to delete their Twitter and Facebook accounts.

......and ???

I already said that it was irrelevant to everyone else

A business doesn't announce to their staff a sensible policy and then just accept a member of staff doing the opposite. It may well be that a formal warning might have been more appropriate but we don't know her previous history.

[bad company]

Robertj21a said:

......and ???

I already said that it was irrelevant to everyone else

A business doesn't announce to their staff a sensible policy and then just accept a member of staff doing the opposite. It may well be that a formal warning might have been more appropriate but we don't know her previous history.

By your rules most of the debates on PH are irrelevant. Anyway I’ll let you chip in again with the last word.

[PF62]

Lemming Train said:

PF62 said:

So who complained? The family member / neighbour, / friend, etc. who heard about what was going on and was worried granny was handing over £20 in cash for a loaf of bread and getting bamboozled by the money shuffle and getting 50p in change.

That is a ridiculous accusation and you know it. Highly unlikely given that's she 60 and worked there for 40 years. The owner should have given her a promotion not sacked her. Hopefully the long-standing and loyal customers will vote with their feet and the business will go bust, exactly as they deserve.

Duh. Try reading again.

[Gareth79]

PF62 said:

CEO Lesley Bird said said:

"what Ms Metcalfe did broke both their Covid-19 rules and their company regulations.

"A lot of our customer base are the elderly - many of them vulnerable - and it is our responsibility to keep them, and our staff, safe."

So who complained? The family member / neighbour, / friend, etc. who heard about what was going on and was worried granny was handing over £20 in cash for a loaf of bread and getting bamboozled by the money shuffle and getting 50p in change.

Possibly the company may have reporting to flag up suspicious payment behaviour too, and it flagged up the same card being used repeatedly at that branch?

Also I don't believe this: "To make sure they didn't leave empty-handed, she would ask them to put the money straight into her purse and then put the payment through on her card before showing them the receipt.". This implies that all customers had the exact change, which doesn't seem likely. Basically I agree that a *manager* flouting company policy is not acceptable, especially when it's designed to protect staff and customers from health hazards.

Contactless card use by the elderly and vulnerable should be *encouraged* since it's far easier for them to use (no fumbling with coins and notes), safer (don't need to carry cash around), and all spending is traceable.

[technodup]

Gareth79 said:

Contactless card use by the elderly and vulnerable should be *encouraged* since it's far easier for them to use (no fumbling with coins and notes), safer (don't need to carry cash around), and all spending is traceable.

That's for them to decide, not to be strong armed into it via 'encouragement' by shops, government or lecturing posters on here.

"All spending is traceable". There are plenty of us who have no desire to be constantly traced and recorded in everything we do.

[bad company]

technodup said:

Gareth79 said:

Contactless card use by the elderly and vulnerable should be *encouraged* since it's far easier for them to use (no fumbling with coins and notes), safer (don't need to carry cash around), and all spending is traceable.

That's for them to decide, not to be strong armed into it via 'encouragement' by shops, government or lecturing posters on here.

"All spending is traceable". There are plenty of us who have no desire to be constantly traced and recorded in everything we do.

There’s a petition to get her reinstated if anyone wants to sign. I did.

https://www.change.org/p/lesley-bird-chief-operati...

[PF62]

technodup said:

"All spending is traceable". There are plenty of us who have no desire to be constantly traced and recorded in everything we do.

And back again to cash use being driven by the poor, the crooked, the elderly, and the paranoid.

[egomeister]

PF62 said:

technodup said:

"All spending is traceable". There are plenty of us who have no desire to be constantly traced and recorded in everything we do.

And back again to cash use being driven by the poor, the crooked, the elderly, and the paranoid.

What do you think the downsides are to eliminating cash?

Edited by egomeister on Sunday 2nd August 19:00

[technodup]

PF62 said:

technodup said:

"All spending is traceable". There are plenty of us who have no desire to be constantly traced and recorded in everything we do.

And back again to cash use being driven by the poor, the crooked, the elderly, and the paranoid.

You're one boring fker.

[Colonel Cupcake]

Robertj21a said:

bad company said:

Robertj21a said:

bad company said:

Robertj21a said:

Still dismissed for not following company policy. The rest is irrelevant.

Irrelevant to you perhaps.

It's irrelevant to everyone else. The lady was an employee and flouted their clear policies.

Not irrelevant to the ex employee who was badly treated and definitely not irrelevant to the company who are suffering from the online backlash. They’ve had to delete their Twitter and Facebook accounts.

......and ???

I already said that it was irrelevant to everyone else

A business doesn't announce to their staff a sensible policy and then just accept a member of staff doing the opposite. It may well be that a formal warning might have been more appropriate but we don't know her previous history.

Whats sensible about it? More people have been proven to have been hit by meteorites than have been proven to have caught ANY infection from cash.

The number of people proven to have been hit by meteorites is 1. What does that say about the numbers proven to have caught any infection from cash?

[V8covin]

bad company said:

There’s a petition to get her reinstated if anyone wants to sign. I did.

https://www.change.org/p/lesley-bird-chief-operati...

There seems to be a petition for everything these days, it's the 1st port of call for the affected

[Robertj21a]

bad company said:

technodup said:

Gareth79 said:

Contactless card use by the elderly and vulnerable should be *encouraged* since it's far easier for them to use (no fumbling with coins and notes), safer (don't need to carry cash around), and all spending is traceable.

That's for them to decide, not to be strong armed into it via 'encouragement' by shops, government or lecturing posters on here.

"All spending is traceable". There are plenty of us who have no desire to be constantly traced and recorded in everything we do.

There’s a petition to get her reinstated if anyone wants to sign. I did.

https://www.change.org/p/lesley-bird-chief-operati...

I gather there's also a petition supporting the company for taking action to protect their customers.
In any event, we are going off a bit from the original purpose of this thread.

[The Mad Monk]

bad company said:

technodup said:

Gareth79 said:

Contactless card use by the elderly and vulnerable should be *encouraged* since it's far easier for them to use (no fumbling with coins and notes), safer (don't need to carry cash around), and all spending is traceable.

That's for them to decide, not to be strong armed into it via 'encouragement' by shops, government or lecturing posters on here.

"All spending is traceable". There are plenty of us who have no desire to be constantly traced and recorded in everything we do.

There’s a petition to get her reinstated if anyone wants to sign. I did.

https://www.change.org/p/lesley-bird-chief-operati...

Is there a petition to say she should stay sacked.

I'll sign that. (You don't actually sign it. You click on a thing. If I were her boss I would say "Go away, noone has signed anything".