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Lord Marylebone said:
How can I scam a scammer?
I'm flogging a few more bits on FB, and surprisingly the first object of the day, an iPad Pro, went with zero hassle! Advertised it this morning, and by lunchtime a very pleasant chap had come round to my house and bought it in cash. It was very odd
But, I'm now advertising a couple of watches for sale. Nothing too crazy but a Breitling for £2k and a couple of £500 Seiko's. I have immediately started getting plausible sounding, but clearly scammy messages off profiles which look legit.
"I would like to buy this for my son for his birthday. I would like to pay you by bank transfer and you can post it straight to my son" etc
How can I scam these people back? Clearly I won't be sending anything anywhere until £2k appears in my bank, but I suspect the £2k will then somehow be recalled?
Is there anything I can do to force them to not scam me? Ask them to pay £2k into an empty account (which has zero overdraft facility) then withdraw it in full. I presume they can't of anything about it then? Then just ask them where to send the watch, and if an address appears, send it.
Just leave it. I suspect the idea is (based purely on my example below)... once they receive the item, they contact the bank and claim it was a scam. The bank will then freeze your (as the seller) account while it's investigated. Unless you have proof you sent them the watch (which you won't...how would you?) they will most likely get the money back. I'm flogging a few more bits on FB, and surprisingly the first object of the day, an iPad Pro, went with zero hassle! Advertised it this morning, and by lunchtime a very pleasant chap had come round to my house and bought it in cash. It was very odd
But, I'm now advertising a couple of watches for sale. Nothing too crazy but a Breitling for £2k and a couple of £500 Seiko's. I have immediately started getting plausible sounding, but clearly scammy messages off profiles which look legit.
"I would like to buy this for my son for his birthday. I would like to pay you by bank transfer and you can post it straight to my son" etc
How can I scam these people back? Clearly I won't be sending anything anywhere until £2k appears in my bank, but I suspect the £2k will then somehow be recalled?
Is there anything I can do to force them to not scam me? Ask them to pay £2k into an empty account (which has zero overdraft facility) then withdraw it in full. I presume they can't of anything about it then? Then just ask them where to send the watch, and if an address appears, send it.
It used to be a case of bank transfer = that's the end of it. But I suspect not any more? There's so many scams that people fall for, banks now try to help, which of course means legitimate sellers get caught up in it.
Example. I bought a BT YouView box that someone was selling on FB. It was a long drive for me, so I messaged the chap who was very helpful and offered to box it up for me if I pay the postage, which I did via Bank Transfer (never do this obviously. I was silly with hindsight, but it was only £30). A week went by and I didn't hear anything. I sent messages...nothing.
After two weeks, I thought - ok I've been scammed.
I contacted the bank (Lloyds). They raised a case, and surprisingly they then contacted Barclays (his bank) and Barclays froze his account. The very next day I get a message from the chap saying he's really sorry, but his wife had been ill, and only posted the thing a few days ago. Tracking number confirmed...and by the way - how come he can't use his bank account any more???!!
I called Lloyds and told them it had all been a misunderstanding, and luckily Barclays unlocked his account. But it took a day and the chap had several DD's declined in that time causing him grief. I did actually call him to apologies. He was fine about it, but I felt a bit of a nob!
Timothy Bucktu said:
Lord Marylebone said:
How can I scam a scammer?
I'm flogging a few more bits on FB, and surprisingly the first object of the day, an iPad Pro, went with zero hassle! Advertised it this morning, and by lunchtime a very pleasant chap had come round to my house and bought it in cash. It was very odd
But, I'm now advertising a couple of watches for sale. Nothing too crazy but a Breitling for £2k and a couple of £500 Seiko's. I have immediately started getting plausible sounding, but clearly scammy messages off profiles which look legit.
"I would like to buy this for my son for his birthday. I would like to pay you by bank transfer and you can post it straight to my son" etc
How can I scam these people back? Clearly I won't be sending anything anywhere until £2k appears in my bank, but I suspect the £2k will then somehow be recalled?
Is there anything I can do to force them to not scam me? Ask them to pay £2k into an empty account (which has zero overdraft facility) then withdraw it in full. I presume they can't of anything about it then? Then just ask them where to send the watch, and if an address appears, send it.
Just leave it. I suspect the idea is (based purely on my example below)... once they receive the item, they contact the bank and claim it was a scam. The bank will then freeze your (as the seller) account while it's investigated. Unless you have proof you sent them the watch (which you won't...how would you?) they will most likely get the money back. I'm flogging a few more bits on FB, and surprisingly the first object of the day, an iPad Pro, went with zero hassle! Advertised it this morning, and by lunchtime a very pleasant chap had come round to my house and bought it in cash. It was very odd
But, I'm now advertising a couple of watches for sale. Nothing too crazy but a Breitling for £2k and a couple of £500 Seiko's. I have immediately started getting plausible sounding, but clearly scammy messages off profiles which look legit.
"I would like to buy this for my son for his birthday. I would like to pay you by bank transfer and you can post it straight to my son" etc
How can I scam these people back? Clearly I won't be sending anything anywhere until £2k appears in my bank, but I suspect the £2k will then somehow be recalled?
Is there anything I can do to force them to not scam me? Ask them to pay £2k into an empty account (which has zero overdraft facility) then withdraw it in full. I presume they can't of anything about it then? Then just ask them where to send the watch, and if an address appears, send it.
It used to be a case of bank transfer = that's the end of it. But I suspect not any more? There's so many scams that people fall for, banks now try to help, which of course means legitimate sellers get caught up in it.
Example. I bought a BT YouView box that someone was selling on FB. It was a long drive for me, so I messaged the chap who was very helpful and offered to box it up for me if I pay the postage, which I did. A week went by and I didn't hear anything. I sent messages...nothing.
After two weeks, I thought - ok I've been scammed.
I contacted the bank (Lloyds). They raised a case, and surprisingly they then contacted Barclays (his bank) and Barclays froze his account. The very next day I get a message from the chap saying he's really sorry, but his wife had been ill, and only posted the thing a few days ago. Tracking number confirmed...and by the way - how come he can't use his bank account any more???!!
I called Lloyds and told them it had all been a misunderstanding, and luckily Barclays unlocked his account. But it took a day and the chap had several DD's declined in that time causing him grief. I did actually call him to apologies. He was fine about it, but I felt a bit of a nob!
Surprised at your example.
Lord Marylebone said:
How can I scam a scammer?
I'm flogging a few more bits on FB, and surprisingly the first object of the day, an iPad Pro, went with zero hassle! Advertised it this morning, and by lunchtime a very pleasant chap had come round to my house and bought it in cash. It was very odd
But, I'm now advertising a couple of watches for sale. Nothing too crazy but a Breitling for £2k and a couple of £500 Seiko's. I have immediately started getting plausible sounding, but clearly scammy messages off profiles which look legit.
"I would like to buy this for my son for his birthday. I would like to pay you by bank transfer and you can post it straight to my son" etc
How can I scam these people back? Clearly I won't be sending anything anywhere until £2k appears in my bank, but I suspect the £2k will then somehow be recalled?
Is there anything I can do to force them to not scam me? Ask them to pay £2k into an empty account (which has zero overdraft facility) then withdraw it in full. I presume they can't of anything about it then? Then just ask them where to send the watch, and if an address appears, send it.
Ask for their mobile number.I'm flogging a few more bits on FB, and surprisingly the first object of the day, an iPad Pro, went with zero hassle! Advertised it this morning, and by lunchtime a very pleasant chap had come round to my house and bought it in cash. It was very odd
But, I'm now advertising a couple of watches for sale. Nothing too crazy but a Breitling for £2k and a couple of £500 Seiko's. I have immediately started getting plausible sounding, but clearly scammy messages off profiles which look legit.
"I would like to buy this for my son for his birthday. I would like to pay you by bank transfer and you can post it straight to my son" etc
How can I scam these people back? Clearly I won't be sending anything anywhere until £2k appears in my bank, but I suspect the £2k will then somehow be recalled?
Is there anything I can do to force them to not scam me? Ask them to pay £2k into an empty account (which has zero overdraft facility) then withdraw it in full. I presume they can't of anything about it then? Then just ask them where to send the watch, and if an address appears, send it.
If they give it to you, Google PPI & Accident callback and sub them to every company you can find.
Ive listed a cheap mobile phone on marketplace. As you can imagine, it's attracting the high class of society.
So far 2 people have failed to turn up, 1 person asked if I would "dliver" and just get an endless barrage of stupid questions.
I'm going to end up just binning it at this rate.
So far 2 people have failed to turn up, 1 person asked if I would "dliver" and just get an endless barrage of stupid questions.
I'm going to end up just binning it at this rate.
I tried selling an unused iPhone a few years back for about £150.
Lad contacted me: I’ll have it.
Me: Great cash, here’s my address.
Lad turns up at the house.
Lad: Here’s £50, can I take the phone now and I will pay you £50 after I get paid.
Shut door in his face. I then get bombarded with messages from him about how he’s a good lad, he wouldn’t scam me. Promises to oay.
Prat even turned up on his moped, quick check revealed no insurance, no tax and no mot. Reported the t
t for wasting my time.
Lad contacted me: I’ll have it.
Me: Great cash, here’s my address.
Lad turns up at the house.
Lad: Here’s £50, can I take the phone now and I will pay you £50 after I get paid.
Shut door in his face. I then get bombarded with messages from him about how he’s a good lad, he wouldn’t scam me. Promises to oay.
Prat even turned up on his moped, quick check revealed no insurance, no tax and no mot. Reported the t
t for wasting my time. Its Just Adz said:
Ive listed a cheap mobile phone on marketplace. As you can imagine, it's attracting the high class of society.
So far 2 people have failed to turn up, 1 person asked if I would "dliver" and just get an endless barrage of stupid questions.
I'm going to end up just binning it at this rate.
To update, I'm going to bin the bloody thing.So far 2 people have failed to turn up, 1 person asked if I would "dliver" and just get an endless barrage of stupid questions.
I'm going to end up just binning it at this rate.
Just not worth a hassle.
Attracting nothing but losers.
I even agreed to deliver to someone close by and now they've gone radio silent.
Losers.
Had a bit of a result recently on Facebook Marketplace.
The missus has wanted new sofas for ages and we want to look at some at circa 3-4k, but we have 2 large dogs and 11 year old and a 10 month old I said no way I'm spending that one sofas for them to ruin them.
11pm on a Friday night she says look at this and hands me the phone, a 3 seater leather recliner like we had looked at for "free" only a year months old, so she messages them and we end up going to look at it the next day. A bloke and his missus have moved in together and have surplus furniture so they want rid asap, we arrange to collect it a few days and that is that, few days later we rock up in the XC90 and get the whole thing in (backs taken off). Yes it was only a year old, had a few marks on it but in extremely good condition for free. The old owner even give us the invoice for £1200.
Few days later another one pops up locally, few months old £200, offered £160 and the deal was done, this time a 2 seater, so went to collect that and was handed a £900 invoice for it, 4 months ago. In brand new condition.
Stuck the old sofas on Facebook, got £40 for one, and the other one went the tip! massive saving over the 3-4k we were going to fork out.
XC90 has been doing a lot of van duties recently.
The missus has wanted new sofas for ages and we want to look at some at circa 3-4k, but we have 2 large dogs and 11 year old and a 10 month old I said no way I'm spending that one sofas for them to ruin them.
11pm on a Friday night she says look at this and hands me the phone, a 3 seater leather recliner like we had looked at for "free" only a year months old, so she messages them and we end up going to look at it the next day. A bloke and his missus have moved in together and have surplus furniture so they want rid asap, we arrange to collect it a few days and that is that, few days later we rock up in the XC90 and get the whole thing in (backs taken off). Yes it was only a year old, had a few marks on it but in extremely good condition for free. The old owner even give us the invoice for £1200.
Few days later another one pops up locally, few months old £200, offered £160 and the deal was done, this time a 2 seater, so went to collect that and was handed a £900 invoice for it, 4 months ago. In brand new condition.
Stuck the old sofas on Facebook, got £40 for one, and the other one went the tip! massive saving over the 3-4k we were going to fork out.
XC90 has been doing a lot of van duties recently.
J210 said:
What I have never understood on FB marketplace is when someone is selling clothes. They use a picture of themselves waring said clothes but blur or mark out their face. Yet can see them in there profile picture !
I can’t find the link to it now but recently I was looking at a Marketplace listing for a Mini Cooper. The description was fairly detailed and there was about half a dozen exterior pics and one interior. It was only on 2nd reading that I noticed it said, “not car in photos” and realised that the red car for sale wasn’t the totally different silver car in the pics. Odd way to do things!
Increasingly people seem to want my back details to pay by transfer.
Around midnight last night, a guy messaged me about a tent I am selling, says he needs it by 5.45 this morning and wants to collect it now and pay by direct transfer.
I said cash only.
Claims to be 60 and doesn't carry cash.
Offers to pay £20 extra to get the tent now.
Am I just paranoid about giving up my bank account details?
Around midnight last night, a guy messaged me about a tent I am selling, says he needs it by 5.45 this morning and wants to collect it now and pay by direct transfer.
I said cash only.
Claims to be 60 and doesn't carry cash.
Offers to pay £20 extra to get the tent now.
Am I just paranoid about giving up my bank account details?
What am I missing here about giving out bank details? Surely when we give someone a cheque, they would have our account number, sort code and of course the name of the bank as well as a specimen signature.
Is it now foolish to give someone a cheque?
I am old and although I use internet banking, I don't use banking apps on my phone, so I might be out of touch with what is and is not secure when it comes to paying others through my bank.
Is it now foolish to give someone a cheque?
I am old and although I use internet banking, I don't use banking apps on my phone, so I might be out of touch with what is and is not secure when it comes to paying others through my bank.
To be honest, if I am collecting something these days i'd prefer to pay bank transfer on arrival, simply because there are no cash machines near where I live in MK and don't really want to have to go into the city centre. Sometimes I am passing a petrol station etc with a cash machine but its not that often.
Jazzy Jag said:
Increasingly people seem to want my back details to pay by transfer.
Around midnight last night, a guy messaged me about a tent I am selling, says he needs it by 5.45 this morning and wants to collect it now and pay by direct transfer.
I said cash only.
Claims to be 60 and doesn't carry cash.
Offers to pay £20 extra to get the tent now.
Am I just paranoid about giving up my bank account details?
Assuming your post is real and not a good parody..............................Around midnight last night, a guy messaged me about a tent I am selling, says he needs it by 5.45 this morning and wants to collect it now and pay by direct transfer.
I said cash only.
Claims to be 60 and doesn't carry cash.
Offers to pay £20 extra to get the tent now.
Am I just paranoid about giving up my bank account details?
NO you ain't and never give out yer details
anonymoususer said:
Jazzy Jag said:
Increasingly people seem to want my back details to pay by transfer.
Around midnight last night, a guy messaged me about a tent I am selling, says he needs it by 5.45 this morning and wants to collect it now and pay by direct transfer.
I said cash only.
Claims to be 60 and doesn't carry cash.
Offers to pay £20 extra to get the tent now.
Am I just paranoid about giving up my bank account details?
Assuming your post is real and not a good parody..............................Around midnight last night, a guy messaged me about a tent I am selling, says he needs it by 5.45 this morning and wants to collect it now and pay by direct transfer.
I said cash only.
Claims to be 60 and doesn't carry cash.
Offers to pay £20 extra to get the tent now.
Am I just paranoid about giving up my bank account details?
NO you ain't and never give out yer details
I told the guy I wanted cash or PayPal and that there is a cash machine at Tesco Local about 1/4 mile away that he would have to drive past to get here...
I can only imagine the ridicule I would get if I started a thread saying that, since I gave a stranger on FB my Bank Account details, I had been ripped off...
Jazzy Jag said:
No parody, it's 100% genuine,
I told the guy I wanted cash or PayPal and that there is a cash machine at Tesco Local about 1/4 mile away that he would have to drive past to get here...
I can only imagine the ridicule I would get if I started a thread saying that, since I gave a stranger on FB my Bank Account details, I had been ripped off...
Bank details before meeting, no chance. I told the guy I wanted cash or PayPal and that there is a cash machine at Tesco Local about 1/4 mile away that he would have to drive past to get here...
I can only imagine the ridicule I would get if I started a thread saying that, since I gave a stranger on FB my Bank Account details, I had been ripped off...
Bank transfer upon collection, no problem.
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