Things that annoy you beyond reason...(Vol. 6)
Discussion
borcy said:
People who say, I'm going to send you an email about xyz, then tell me the entire content of it and then still send the email.
What's all that about?
I used to have a line manager who would ask me to phone someone else to get info or make a request. Only by the time he'd explained in minute detail what it was he'd wanted, it would have been quicker, and far more efficient, to have made the call himself. Compounded, frequently, by the person I was required to call asking a question that only the boss could answer. Which would then involve me wasting more time walking the corridors seeking him out (he was seldom in his office), asking the question, getting the answer, then making another call to relay it. Sometimes the answer only triggered another question, cue me repeating the process over again.What's all that about?
If the daft b
d had just made the call himself we could both have been doing something useful, concurrently, rather than eating up large portions of the working day duplicating effort. yellowjack said:
I used to have a line manager who would ask me to phone someone else to get info or make a request. Only by the time he'd explained in minute detail what it was he'd wanted, it would have been quicker, and far more efficient, to have made the call himself. Compounded, frequently, by the person I was required to call asking a question that only the boss could answer. Which would then involve me wasting more time walking the corridors seeking him out (he was seldom in his office), asking the question, getting the answer, then making another call to relay it. Sometimes the answer only triggered another question, cue me repeating the process over again.
If the daft bd had just made the call himself we could both have been doing something useful, concurrently, rather than eating up large portions of the working day duplicating effort.
Thats why he was the boss and you were his helper. You need to read the Dilbert Principle to really understand how to become an effective manager.If the daft b
d had just made the call himself we could both have been doing something useful, concurrently, rather than eating up large portions of the working day duplicating effort. ChevyChase77 said:
OK - it's getting irritating now. Picture of Christmas tree followed by "It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas" x 4342345 on my Facebook timeline.
I uploaded that very caption to my Instagram a few minutes ago, just for you. Not that you follow me on Instagram, or know me in real life, or probably want to (based on my recent comment) but I want you to know that I did it because of you, not in spite of you 
And it's a sign of experience and knowledge of your job to eke out more detail that you know you'll need from the gaffer before placing the call and the recipient while he's on the line. The you go to the boss with a solution not a problem.
Colleagues with no bloody initiative annoy me beyond reason.
Colleagues with no bloody initiative annoy me beyond reason.
DRFC1879 said:
And it's a sign of experience and knowledge of your job to eke out more detail that you know you'll need from the gaffer before placing the call and the recipient while he's on the line. The you go to the boss with a solution not a problem.
Colleagues with no bloody initiative annoy me beyond reason.
...even when the question has nothing whatever to do with the reason for the call? Which was a frequent occurrence. Anyway, it wasn't so much being tasked to make such a call, but the manner in which he'd go into so much detail that he might as well have made the call himself. I'm perfectly capable of fleshing out the details myself. A two minute briefing for a twenty minute task? Makes sense. But a twenty minute briefing for a twenty minute task? You might as well dispense with the briefing really, and get on with the task yourself.Colleagues with no bloody initiative annoy me beyond reason.
yellowjack said:
...even when the question has nothing whatever to do with the reason for the call? Which was a frequent occurrence. Anyway, it wasn't so much being tasked to make such a call, but the manner in which he'd go into so much detail that he might as well have made the call himself. I'm perfectly capable of fleshing out the details myself. A two minute briefing for a twenty minute task? Makes sense. But a twenty minute briefing for a twenty minute task? You might as well dispense with the briefing really, and get on with the task yourself.
But now you have more knowledge than you had because you know the whole transaction and he can go "Can you do the same again with Doreen"
and you can go yes, do 20 minutes work, and he can continue searching oonline for dwarf conifers for his executive garden
borcy said:
You should have learnt how to make these little jobs his problem rather yours. Failing that prioritise his little jobs appropriately, don't go rushing around offices looking for people. If they want an answer they'll soon find you.
With this guy, it really was a case of "if he says jump, don't ask how high, just start feckin' jumping". He had the interpersonal skills of a Hippopotamus. And I had no choice but to work for him. Still, he was easier to get on with than his predecessor, and his previous boss. yellowjack said:
borcy said:
You should have learnt how to make these little jobs his problem rather yours. Failing that prioritise his little jobs appropriately, don't go rushing around offices looking for people. If they want an answer they'll soon find you.
With this guy, it really was a case of "if he says jump, don't ask how high, just start feckin' jumping". He had the interpersonal skills of a Hippopotamus. And I had no choice but to work for him. Still, he was easier to get on with than his predecessor, and his previous boss. Edited by borcy on Wednesday 11th December 13:54
My gripe. Amazon's delivery estimates.
I ordered something yesterday. it told me i'd get it tomorrow (thursday). but the items haven't even been despatched now. It's for secret santa at work and I need it for monday. But I'm not sure whether I should cancel the order can consider buying something else now.
I ordered something yesterday. it told me i'd get it tomorrow (thursday). but the items haven't even been despatched now. It's for secret santa at work and I need it for monday. But I'm not sure whether I should cancel the order can consider buying something else now.
ambuletz said:
My gripe. Amazon's delivery estimates.
I ordered something yesterday. it told me i'd get it tomorrow (thursday). but the items haven't even been despatched now. It's for secret santa at work and I need it for monday. But I'm not sure whether I should cancel the order can consider buying something else now.
Is it coming from Amazon themselves, or a third party seller not using FBA? I ordered something yesterday. it told me i'd get it tomorrow (thursday). but the items haven't even been despatched now. It's for secret santa at work and I need it for monday. But I'm not sure whether I should cancel the order can consider buying something else now.
third party sellers enter their own delivery estimates for each product and there's no guarantee they will meet them.
LivingTheDream said:
ambuletz said:
My gripe. Amazon's delivery estimates.
I ordered something yesterday. it told me i'd get it tomorrow (thursday). but the items haven't even been despatched now. It's for secret santa at work and I need it for monday. But I'm not sure whether I should cancel the order can consider buying something else now.
Is it coming from Amazon themselves, or a third party seller not using FBA? I ordered something yesterday. it told me i'd get it tomorrow (thursday). but the items haven't even been despatched now. It's for secret santa at work and I need it for monday. But I'm not sure whether I should cancel the order can consider buying something else now.
third party sellers enter their own delivery estimates for each product and there's no guarantee they will meet them.
so is the tracking based on the item sold by amazon? or the third party? it gives the impression all the items would arrive at once.
ambuletz said:
so is the tracking based on the item sold by amazon? or the third party? it gives the impression all the items would arrive at once.
Depends on which warehouse(s) they were dispatched from. Items coming from the same warehouse will typically arrive in the same box at the same time, whereas items from different warehouses will arrive in different boxes, sometimes at different times if coming direct, and sometimes at the same time if they came via a hub that collected them all together. Also, it depends on whether you selected the option to send as the items become available or wait for all to be dispatched. As an Amazon Prime customer I think the former happens for me anyway.
The above is all for stuff dispatched by Amazon (some Marketplace sales are fulfilled by Amazon). For items that are both sold and fulfilled by a Marketplace seller, they'll be sent independently of Amazon, and you may or may not get tracking info from them. It depends.
borcy said:
Bosses like that can take a fair bit of handling. I've found once you've cracked it, it can be easy to work for them. From my experience they just want to see people busy often with small unimportant tasks, once you can play that game it's not so bad.
Definitely had a boss like that in the past. Coupled with a tendency to regularly shoot from the hip and miss, regularly, I just had to learn to wait 20 minutes to get the actual information of a situation that he had heard about before acting on it, rather than just taking his word for anything. Got myself a lot further than I would have if I had actually just done what he said, which is what other people seemed to do and then had to deal with the fallout afterwards. Edited by borcy on Wednesday 11th December 13:54
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