Things that annoy you beyond reason...(Vol. 6)

[yellowjack]

Richard-390a0 said:

Catching a belt loop or any other article of clothing on the pokey out bit of a door strike plate... but it only happens when you're already really annoyed !!!

Or catching the open end of your sleeve on a door handle. Which stops you in your tracks. Worse still when the arm that is caught on the door handle ends in a hand that was carrying a cup of tea or coffee. The arm, hand, and cup stop dead, but the liquid keeps moving and sloshes out of the cup...

[yellowjack]

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[DoubleD]

talksthetorque said:

bigpriest said:

popeyewhite said:

talksthetorque said:

The Mad Monk said:

DocJock said:

He was probably thinking "Does this auld fella not realise we aren't living in the '60s any longer and that the English language has evolved to include 'pissed myself' meaning laughing uncontrollably?".

Good point. Well made.

However when the word "literally" is added, that changes the sense and meaning of the sentence, doesn't it?

If not, what purpose does the word "literally" serve?

Its literally just used for emphasis.

We did the 'literally' thing a few weeks back. Some dictionaries seeking credibility now accept the lazy misuse of English/slang as 'evolution of language'. Which it isn't. Hence, entirely incorrectly in my view, 'literally' may be used by some for emphasis. If the user has missed an education.

And we know it's based on poor education and ignorance - we have the words 'amost' and 'nearly' that work perfectly in that sentence. The story would have been funnier if he had actually pissed himself.

I don't think it is owen to poor education, just that it's fashionable to say. I'm sure most of the users know it's definition, but some will accept and adopt the new usage and some will refuse. See also sick - wicked - cool etc.

I also agree the story would have been funnier, but would point out that the wedding may have been viewed as slightly less of a success.

I think its an age thing. When you are younger you are more likely to accept these changes to the way that some people speak. Chances are we have all said things like this ourselves when younger. Some people when they get old are unable to accept these changes.

[Frank7]

DocJock said:

He was probably thinking "Does this auld fella not realise we aren't living in the '60s any longer and that the English language has evolved to include 'pissed myself' meaning laughing uncontrollably?".

He probably wasn’t Doc, he’s one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet, he’s always ready to help if you need something, he has a great deal of common sense, and loves his wife and little girl, but he somehow lost his place in the queue when thinking before speaking was being issued.
Not for nothing Doc, but yes, “pissed myself” does mean laughing uncontrollably, but if you prefix it with literally, it changes the meaning to “I really, or actually, pissed myself.”
He knew what he meant, I knew what he meant, we all know what he meant, can we forget it and go back to things like, “all intensive purposes”, and “you’ve got another thing/think coming.”?

[ro250]

Frank7 said:

He probably wasn’t Doc, he’s one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet, he’s always ready to help if you need something, he has a great deal of common sense, and loves his wife and little girl, but he somehow lost his place in the queue when thinking before speaking was being issued.
Not for nothing Doc, but yes, “pissed myself” does mean laughing uncontrollably, but if you prefix it with literally, it changes the meaning to “I really, or actually, pissed myself.”
He knew what he meant, I knew what he meant, we all know what he meant, can we forget it and go back to things like, “all intensive purposes”, and “you’ve got another thing/think coming.”?

Putting "literally" at the start of a figurative phrase completely changes the meaning. People tend to use 'literally' before phrases like "I pissed myself laughing" to add emphasis, whereas they are actually changing the meaning. Not that they care.

[DocJock]

Frank7 said:

DocJock said:

He was probably thinking "Does this auld fella not realise we aren't living in the '60s any longer and that the English language has evolved to include 'pissed myself' meaning laughing uncontrollably?".

He probably wasn’t Doc, he’s one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet, he’s always ready to help if you need something, he has a great deal of common sense, and loves his wife and little girl, but he somehow lost his place in the queue when thinking before speaking was being issued.
Not for nothing Doc, but yes, “pissed myself” does mean laughing uncontrollably, but if you prefix it with literally, it changes the meaning to “I really, or actually, pissed myself.”
He knew what he meant, I knew what he meant, we all know what he meant, can we forget it and go back to things like, “all intensive purposes”, and “you’ve got another thing/think coming.”?

No offence intended, but actually, it doesn't. When the expression is in the dictionary with one meaning being 'to laugh uncontrollably', prefixing it with literally can simply mean 'actually laughed uncontrollably'. [/pedantry]

[DoubleD]

Frank7 said:

DocJock said:

He was probably thinking "Does this auld fella not realise we aren't living in the '60s any longer and that the English language has evolved to include 'pissed myself' meaning laughing uncontrollably?".

He probably wasn’t Doc, he’s one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet, he’s always ready to help if you need something, he has a great deal of common sense, and loves his wife and little girl, but he somehow lost his place in the queue when thinking before speaking was being issued.
Not for nothing Doc, but yes, “pissed myself” does mean laughing uncontrollably, but if you prefix it with literally, it changes the meaning to “I really, or actually, pissed myself.”
He knew what he meant, I knew what he meant, we all know what he meant, can we forget it and go back to things like, “all intensive purposes”, and “you’ve got another thing/think coming.”?

Imagine you were young and an old guy was correcting you for not speaking the same way that he does, you would have thought that he was a bit of a tt. Well that's how he now views you.

[RizzoTheRat]

fking parcel delivery firms again! UPS this time who are usually ok.

They've put a note though the door saying they've made their last attempt at delivery, despite it being the first card I've seen. I can opt for redelivery on Monday, but not time slot, or to hold it for collection...which comes up as a town centre 45 mins drive away, with no option to leave it at the local UPS access point 5 mins walk down the road!

[talksthetorque]

DoubleD said:

Frank7 said:

DocJock said:

He was probably thinking "Does this auld fella not realise we aren't living in the '60s any longer and that the English language has evolved to include 'pissed myself' meaning laughing uncontrollably?".

He probably wasn’t Doc, he’s one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet, he’s always ready to help if you need something, he has a great deal of common sense, and loves his wife and little girl, but he somehow lost his place in the queue when thinking before speaking was being issued.
Not for nothing Doc, but yes, “pissed myself” does mean laughing uncontrollably, but if you prefix it with literally, it changes the meaning to “I really, or actually, pissed myself.”
He knew what he meant, I knew what he meant, we all know what he meant, can we forget it and go back to things like, “all intensive purposes”, and “you’ve got another thing/think coming.”?

Imagine you were young and an old guy was correcting you for not speaking the same way that he does, you would have thought that he was a bit of a tt. Well that's how he now views you.

Yes, but who has the bigger dry cleaning bill?

[popeyewhite]

talksthetorque said:

I don't think it is owen to poor education, just that it's fashionable to say.

I don't think it is particularly fashionable. We recognise the word used in the wrong context because it's annoying. Generally evolution of language takes place over quite a few decades - here we are discussing slang adopted by lazy snowflakes 'defined' in online dictionarys that are desperate to appear current/woke/on trend.

[DoubleD]

popeyewhite said:

talksthetorque said:

I don't think it is owen to poor education, just that it's fashionable to say.

I don't think it is particularly fashionable. We recognise the word used in the wrong context because it's annoying. Generally evolution of language takes place over quite a few decades - here we are discussing slang adopted by lazy snowflakes 'defined' in online dictionarys that are desperate to appear current/woke/on trend.

Young folk have always done this, I bet even you did when you were young.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

When you retire a domain name, let it expire, delete the vserver for it, and then have a mild panic as you start getting error reports and you think that you actually needed the email addresses on it, panic-renew the domain since it is in the grace period, and then realise afterwards that actually you didn't need to renew it after all.

It was only £15-odd but still annoying.

[Frank7]

DocJock said:

No offence intended, but actually, it doesn't. When the expression is in the dictionary with one meaning being 'to laugh uncontrollably', prefixing it with literally can simply mean 'actually laughed uncontrollably'. [/pedantry]

I’ll happily accept that Doc, and no offence taken

DoubleD said:

Imagine you were young and an old guy was correcting you for not speaking the same way that he does, you would have thought that he was a bit of a tt. Well that's how he now views you.

As a dyed in the wool Millwall fan, Dan’s always thought I was berk, as I follow West Ham.

[popeyewhite]

DoubleD said:

popeyewhite said:

talksthetorque said:

I don't think it is owen to poor education, just that it's fashionable to say.

I don't think it is particularly fashionable. We recognise the word used in the wrong context because it's annoying. Generally evolution of language takes place over quite a few decades - here we are discussing slang adopted by lazy snowflakes 'defined' in online dictionarys that are desperate to appear current/woke/on trend.

Young folk have always done this, I bet even you did when you were young.

I used slang and catchphrases certainly, but none made a dictionary. And it's not the sole province of the young to change language. Adaptations occur across society and over time, not literally in the blink of an eye.

[DoubleD]

popeyewhite said:

DoubleD said:

popeyewhite said:

talksthetorque said:

I don't think it is owen to poor education, just that it's fashionable to say.

I don't think it is particularly fashionable. We recognise the word used in the wrong context because it's annoying. Generally evolution of language takes place over quite a few decades - here we are discussing slang adopted by lazy snowflakes 'defined' in online dictionarys that are desperate to appear current/woke/on trend.

Young folk have always done this, I bet even you did when you were young.

I used slang and catchphrases certainly, but none made a dictionary. And it's not the sole province of the young to change language. Adaptations occur across society and over time, not literally in the blink of an eye.

So why the anger then if you did the same?

[popeyewhite]

DoubleD said:

So why the anger then if you did the same?

Sorry, you've lost me. Anger with whom? At what?

[DoubleD]

popeyewhite said:

DoubleD said:

So why the anger then if you did the same?

Sorry, you've lost me. Anger with whom? At what?

Why are you angry at people doing things that you have also done

[NoVetec]

Thread title reminder number 122 issued.

[gregs656]

DoubleD said:

Why are you angry at people doing things that you have also done

Because people like to think which ever version of the language they knew when they were around 18 is the correct one; despite the fact our language has always changed (and this idea it was always a slow process sounds like nonsense to me) and doesn't have an authority for them to appeal to.

Stephen Fry has a good piece on this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovi7uQbtKas

[popeyewhite]

NoVetec said:

Thread title reminder number 122 issued.

Noted.

DoubleD said:

Why are you angry at people doing things that you have also done

I'm not. I'm angry beyond reason that the particular perversion of the English language which you seem to have forgotten is the actual subject of our current discussion has been accepted by some as 'evolution of language'. My anger beyond reason extends to online dictionarys who might be seen to give creedence to this nonsense by including a 'new' meaning of 'literally'. Which of course is impossible as 'literal' means representing exact words (Latin literalis, of or pertaining to letters or to writing).