Things that annoy you beyond reason...(Vol. 6)
Discussion
nonsequitur said:
Antony Moxey said:
Threads continuing to descend into petty Covid arguments.
Covid is the biggest and most dangerous national emergency that we have experienced in all our lifetimes. Discussions on PH will rise and descend to all levels of argument, and will continue, I feel, for some time to come.The Mad Monk said:
nonsequitur said:
Covid is the biggest and most dangerous national emergency that we have experienced in all our lifetimes.
World War II?Cuban Missile Crisis?
The average age on PH is very different though ha ha!
nonsequitur said:
The Mad Monk said:
nonsequitur said:
Covid is the biggest and most dangerous national emergency that we have experienced in all our lifetimes.
World War II?Cuban Missile Crisis?
Cuban Missile Crisis, could have been a world wide nuclear war. That would have been alright? Wouldn't it?
Covid 19? Lots of people die, but as a percentage of the world's population, pretty small. People under the age of 40 - almost, not quite, but almost non existent. If it were allowed to run rampant a significant percentage of those over 70 and 80 would die, but we will probably be dead in the next ten years anyway.
Can I politely suggest those wishing to continue the COVID banter head over to the dedicated post for it?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
We're quickly heading from some on topic annoyances around that subject to a full on thread derailment.
The Mad Monk said:
nonsequitur said:
The Mad Monk said:
nonsequitur said:
Covid is the biggest and most dangerous national emergency that we have experienced in all our lifetimes.
World War II?Cuban Missile Crisis?
Cuban Missile Crisis, could have been a world wide nuclear war. That would have been alright? Wouldn't it?
Covid 19? Lots of people die, but as a percentage of the world's population, pretty small. People under the age of 40 - almost, not quite, but almost non existent. If it were allowed to run rampant a significant percentage of those over 70 and 80 would die, but we will probably be dead in the next ten years anyway.
I choose the metric to be the number of tweets on the subject.
The Mad Monk said:
nonsequitur said:
Covid is the biggest and most dangerous national emergency that we have experienced in all our lifetimes.
World War II?Cuban Missile Crisis?
Other than happily watching the skies being full of planes as a toddler in WW2, and being mildly concerned while waiting and hoping that the Russky ships would turn around before reaching Cuba in 1962, I’ve been okay until now.
I certainly won’t hide behind the sofa, I’ll go out, (with mask), if I have to go out, but there’s no way that I’m going in to a pub or restaurant for the foreseeable future.
The Mad Monk said:
Worse than the threat of world War two? A meglomaniac dictator, wiping out whole races of people?
Cuban Missile Crisis, could have been a world wide nuclear war. That would have been alright? Wouldn't it?
Covid 19? Lots of people die, but as a percentage of the world's population, pretty small. People under the age of 40 - almost, not quite, but almost non existent. If it were allowed to run rampant a significant percentage of those over 70 and 80 would die, but we will probably be dead in the next ten years anyway.
If you were alive in WW2 that would make you at a minimum of 75. If you were old enough to remember it you're probably north of 80... That puts you into the highest risk catagory so yes, more dangerous than WW2Cuban Missile Crisis, could have been a world wide nuclear war. That would have been alright? Wouldn't it?
Covid 19? Lots of people die, but as a percentage of the world's population, pretty small. People under the age of 40 - almost, not quite, but almost non existent. If it were allowed to run rampant a significant percentage of those over 70 and 80 would die, but we will probably be dead in the next ten years anyway.
Most people are not that old. So yes, this is the most dangerous crisis in recent times.
If you don't like hearing that, I suggest you self isolate from the internet.
For the rest of us, the crisis is easily managed by some basic techniques that have been done to death. It's only the conspiracy theorist nutters who question this (and keep bringing it up in thread after thread despite getting smacked down by reason and logic each and every time).
V6 Pushfit said:
The bravado attitude is great but there’s a time and a place, on the basis that 2 weeks ago 14,000 a day were being infected (now down to 1,400) now is still not the time to pretend to be Billy Big b
ks and bore everyone stupid with how you don’t give a toss about anyone else.
That's not what I've said at all though. There's no "Billy Big bks and bore everyone stupid with how you don’t give a toss about anyone else.ks" here. Covid is real, I know it's real. My wife works with Covid patients (or did, when the hospital had some 
). She now has to wear a mask in the corridors at work. She can't eat her lunch in the staff room. Yet she can't leave the premises because she's in scrubs/crocs all day. She's only 5'0" tall yet she's in a lead apron most of the day, and on top of that now she wears more PPE than you can shake a stick at. It's heavy, uncomfortable, and exhausting. And it can't go on indefinitely. What I won't join in with is this Derpy 'Cult Of Covid' nonsense. Nor this "I wear a mask so everyone should". Assess risk for yourself. Adjust your own behaviour. Don't expect the world around you to make unreasonable adjustments, or to stop doing stuff simply because you're envious of their freedoms due to your being in a "shielding" group or just being a worry-wort.
Case in point? When the "lockdown" (hint: we were never "locked down"
) restrictions were lifted to allow us to visit our eldest son, we made a 120 mile round trip to see him. We went to a local lake, he cycled there from his rented room. We bought KFC on the way, we all had a takeaway picnic on one of the benches, with him keeping his distance from the "other household" of his parents and brother. We went for a walk around the lake to let our two sons catch up. Again, my wife and I walked as a couple, he and his brother took opposite sides of the path a few metres behind us. We refrained from hugging our son, despite not seeing him for five months. Part way around the lake we happened to be walking toward a Barbara Woodhouse type (ask you grandad) with her silly little lapdog. She marched confidently down the middle of the path making no effort to take one edge or the other. When we'd passed, she (apparently, I didn't actually hear her because I'd forgotten my hearing aid) told my sons to "single file damn it! I'm bloody-well shielding!" My problem with this? If she were truly "shielding" then what the juddering fk was she doing out walking her dog by a busy local beauty spot on a hot, sunny day with scores, hundreds, possibly thousands of people out enjoying their first hint of post-restriction freedom? And if she truly were terrified of our little family group, why not take one of the many opportunities to retreat into the foliage at the side of the path until we'd passed? I'm not out there in a "free hugs" t-shirt touching random strangers. I'm just not willing to make overly exaggerated efforts to keep apart from people in the open. Idiots I've seen out will stop walking toward you, and turn to face you, when the footway is easily wide enough to "social distance". This increases the time we're alongside each other. If they kept walking, and turned their head slightly away, then the time exposed to the transmission risk would be reduced. Another 'Covidiot'? The taxi passenger this morning getting out of a cab outside the hospital. He, and the driver, were wearing masks. Proper surgical masks. The driver handed the passenger his rucksack, and the passenger grabbed the driver's hand and shook it. Now call me old-fashioned, but if you're going to go to the trouble of wearing a mask to "protect yourself and others", surely you can get it into your thick head that touching strangers isn't a very bright idea. And a pound to a penny that one, or both of them, now goes on to touch/adjust their mask before they wash or sanitise their hands. So no, it's not "bravado" at all. I'm just sick of seeing this "got to be seen to be doing something" bullst. Take precautions? Yes. Definitely assess the risks and amend your routine/behaviour to suit. But running around claiming the sky is falling in, or telling us that "people are dropping like flies" and taking precautions that make little to no difference to the transmission risk? No thanks. I'm going to carry on living as full a life as possible within the law and with respect for other people. That means I've booked visits every single weekend to National Trust/English Heritage gardens or independent attractions since they were permitted to open. I've dined out, and will again. When stately homes and museums open again, I'll book them too. All on the basis that everyone else in attendance is there having pulled up their big boy pants and assessed the risk for themselves. If people don't want to go to Forde Abbey, or to Monatcute House because they think it's too great a risk, fair play. Stay at home. But don't clamour for these places to shut just because you "can't" (more accurately "won't") go yourself. I won't go to a pub just now because I think the risk is too great. But I don't think pubs should shut just because I don't want to visit one. There are certain posters on PistonHeads who seemingly can't get their heads around the non-binary nature of opinion. It's quite possible for a person to accept that Covid is real, and take some precautions, while not signing up to the "close everything" and "wear hazmat suits to shop at Asda" manifesto (although hazmat suits to enter Asda would seem like a good plan even outside of Covid...
)TL;DR? I'm not one of the "it's all made up, carry on as normal" conspiracy theorists. I'm not one of the "wear gloves and masks to open the mail" nutcases either. I'm just bumbling along, continually assessing risk, and amending my behaviour to suit. I'll take the current odds of catching this virus, but if the risk increases I'll further amend my behaviour to suit the new odds, all the while obeying the law and taking government guidelines into consideration.
yellowjack said:
TL;DR? I'm not one of the "it's all made up, carry on as normal" conspiracy theorists. I'm not one of the "wear gloves and masks to open the mail" nutcases either. I'm just bumbling along, continually assessing risk, and amending my behaviour to suit. I'll take the current odds of catching this virus, but if the risk increases I'll further amend my behaviour to suit the new odds, all the while obeying the law and taking government guidelines into consideration.
Pretty much my attitude too. 
yellowjack said:
That's not what I've said at all though. There's no "Billy Big bks" here. Covid is real, I know it's real. My wife works with Covid patients (or did, when the hospital had some ). She now has to wear a mask in the corridors at work. She can't eat her lunch in the staff room. Yet she can't leave the premises because she's in scrubs/crocs all day. She's only 5'0" tall yet she's in a lead apron most of the day, and on top of that now she wears more PPE than you can shake a stick at. It's heavy, uncomfortable, and exhausting. And it can't go on indefinitely.
What I won't join in with is this Derpy 'Cult Of Covid' nonsense. Nor this "I wear a mask so everyone should". Assess risk for yourself. Adjust your own behaviour. Don't expect the world around you to make unreasonable adjustments, or to stop doing stuff simply because you're envious of their freedoms due to your being in a "shielding" group or just being a worry-wort.
Case in point? When the "lockdown" (hint: we were never "locked down" ) restrictions were lifted to allow us to visit our eldest son, we made a 120 mile round trip to see him. We went to a local lake, he cycled there from his rented room. We bought KFC on the way, we all had a takeaway picnic on one of the benches, with him keeping his distance from the "other household" of his parents and brother. We went for a walk around the lake to let our two sons catch up. Again, my wife and I walked as a couple, he and his brother took opposite sides of the path a few metres behind us. We refrained from hugging our son, despite not seeing him for five months. Part way around the lake we happened to be walking toward a Barbara Woodhouse type (ask you grandad) with her silly little lapdog. She marched confidently down the middle of the path making no effort to take one edge or the other. When we'd passed, she (apparently, I didn't actually hear her because I'd forgotten my hearing aid) told my sons to "single file damn it! I'm bloody-well shielding!" My problem with this? If she were truly "shielding" then what the juddering fk was she doing out walking her dog by a busy local beauty spot on a hot, sunny day with scores, hundreds, possibly thousands of people out enjoying their first hint of post-restriction freedom? And if she truly were terrified of our little family group, why not take one of the many opportunities to retreat into the foliage at the side of the path until we'd passed? I'm not out there in a "free hugs" t-shirt touching random strangers. I'm just not willing to make overly exaggerated efforts to keep apart from people in the open. Idiots I've seen out will stop walking toward you, and turn to face you, when the footway is easily wide enough to "social distance". This increases the time we're alongside each other. If they kept walking, and turned their head slightly away, then the time exposed to the transmission risk would be reduced. Another 'Covidiot'? The taxi passenger this morning getting out of a cab outside the hospital. He, and the driver, were wearing masks. Proper surgical masks. The driver handed the passenger his rucksack, and the passenger grabbed the driver's hand and shook it. Now call me old-fashioned, but if you're going to go to the trouble of wearing a mask to "protect yourself and others", surely you can get it into your thick head that touching strangers isn't a very bright idea. And a pound to a penny that one, or both of them, now goes on to touch/adjust their mask before they wash or sanitise their hands. So no, it's not "bravado" at all. I'm just sick of seeing this "got to be seen to be doing something" bullst. Take precautions? Yes. Definitely assess the risks and amend your routine/behaviour to suit. But running around claiming the sky is falling in, or telling us that "people are dropping like flies" and taking precautions that make little to no difference to the transmission risk? No thanks.
I'm going to carry on living as full a life as possible within the law and with respect for other people. That means I've booked visits every single weekend to National Trust/English Heritage gardens or independent attractions since they were permitted to open. I've dined out, and will again. When stately homes and museums open again, I'll book them too. All on the basis that everyone else in attendance is there having pulled up their big boy pants and assessed the risk for themselves. If people don't want to go to Forde Abbey, or to Monatcute House because they think it's too great a risk, fair play. Stay at home. But don't clamour for these places to shut just because you "can't" (more accurately "won't") go yourself. I won't go to a pub just now because I think the risk is too great. But I don't think pubs should shut just because I don't want to visit one. There are certain posters on PistonHeads who seemingly can't get their heads around the non-binary nature of opinion. It's quite possible for a person to accept that Covid is real, and take some precautions, while not signing up to the "close everything" and "wear hazmat suits to shop at Asda" manifesto (although hazmat suits to enter Asda would seem like a good plan even outside of Covid... )
TL;DR? I'm not one of the "it's all made up, carry on as normal" conspiracy theorists. I'm not one of the "wear gloves and masks to open the mail" nutcases either. I'm just bumbling along, continually assessing risk, and amending my behaviour to suit. I'll take the current odds of catching this virus, but if the risk increases I'll further amend my behaviour to suit the new odds, all the while obeying the law and taking government guidelines into consideration.
Make a great eulogyks" here. Covid is real, I know it's real. My wife works with Covid patients (or did, when the hospital had some ). She now has to wear a mask in the corridors at work. She can't eat her lunch in the staff room. Yet she can't leave the premises because she's in scrubs/crocs all day. She's only 5'0" tall yet she's in a lead apron most of the day, and on top of that now she wears more PPE than you can shake a stick at. It's heavy, uncomfortable, and exhausting. And it can't go on indefinitely. What I won't join in with is this Derpy 'Cult Of Covid' nonsense. Nor this "I wear a mask so everyone should". Assess risk for yourself. Adjust your own behaviour. Don't expect the world around you to make unreasonable adjustments, or to stop doing stuff simply because you're envious of their freedoms due to your being in a "shielding" group or just being a worry-wort.
Case in point? When the "lockdown" (hint: we were never "locked down"
) restrictions were lifted to allow us to visit our eldest son, we made a 120 mile round trip to see him. We went to a local lake, he cycled there from his rented room. We bought KFC on the way, we all had a takeaway picnic on one of the benches, with him keeping his distance from the "other household" of his parents and brother. We went for a walk around the lake to let our two sons catch up. Again, my wife and I walked as a couple, he and his brother took opposite sides of the path a few metres behind us. We refrained from hugging our son, despite not seeing him for five months. Part way around the lake we happened to be walking toward a Barbara Woodhouse type (ask you grandad) with her silly little lapdog. She marched confidently down the middle of the path making no effort to take one edge or the other. When we'd passed, she (apparently, I didn't actually hear her because I'd forgotten my hearing aid) told my sons to "single file damn it! I'm bloody-well shielding!" My problem with this? If she were truly "shielding" then what the juddering fk was she doing out walking her dog by a busy local beauty spot on a hot, sunny day with scores, hundreds, possibly thousands of people out enjoying their first hint of post-restriction freedom? And if she truly were terrified of our little family group, why not take one of the many opportunities to retreat into the foliage at the side of the path until we'd passed? I'm not out there in a "free hugs" t-shirt touching random strangers. I'm just not willing to make overly exaggerated efforts to keep apart from people in the open. Idiots I've seen out will stop walking toward you, and turn to face you, when the footway is easily wide enough to "social distance". This increases the time we're alongside each other. If they kept walking, and turned their head slightly away, then the time exposed to the transmission risk would be reduced. Another 'Covidiot'? The taxi passenger this morning getting out of a cab outside the hospital. He, and the driver, were wearing masks. Proper surgical masks. The driver handed the passenger his rucksack, and the passenger grabbed the driver's hand and shook it. Now call me old-fashioned, but if you're going to go to the trouble of wearing a mask to "protect yourself and others", surely you can get it into your thick head that touching strangers isn't a very bright idea. And a pound to a penny that one, or both of them, now goes on to touch/adjust their mask before they wash or sanitise their hands. So no, it's not "bravado" at all. I'm just sick of seeing this "got to be seen to be doing something" bullst. Take precautions? Yes. Definitely assess the risks and amend your routine/behaviour to suit. But running around claiming the sky is falling in, or telling us that "people are dropping like flies" and taking precautions that make little to no difference to the transmission risk? No thanks. I'm going to carry on living as full a life as possible within the law and with respect for other people. That means I've booked visits every single weekend to National Trust/English Heritage gardens or independent attractions since they were permitted to open. I've dined out, and will again. When stately homes and museums open again, I'll book them too. All on the basis that everyone else in attendance is there having pulled up their big boy pants and assessed the risk for themselves. If people don't want to go to Forde Abbey, or to Monatcute House because they think it's too great a risk, fair play. Stay at home. But don't clamour for these places to shut just because you "can't" (more accurately "won't") go yourself. I won't go to a pub just now because I think the risk is too great. But I don't think pubs should shut just because I don't want to visit one. There are certain posters on PistonHeads who seemingly can't get their heads around the non-binary nature of opinion. It's quite possible for a person to accept that Covid is real, and take some precautions, while not signing up to the "close everything" and "wear hazmat suits to shop at Asda" manifesto (although hazmat suits to enter Asda would seem like a good plan even outside of Covid...
)TL;DR? I'm not one of the "it's all made up, carry on as normal" conspiracy theorists. I'm not one of the "wear gloves and masks to open the mail" nutcases either. I'm just bumbling along, continually assessing risk, and amending my behaviour to suit. I'll take the current odds of catching this virus, but if the risk increases I'll further amend my behaviour to suit the new odds, all the while obeying the law and taking government guidelines into consideration.
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