Things that annoy you beyond reason...(Vol. 6)
Discussion
SCEtoAUX said:
NapierDeltic said:
Continue on this trajectory and by 2050 you will have Armstrong: brothers on the moon. Cape Canaveral will be staffed by incompetent white men who bicker away and break off into effete soliloquies at every whim. It takes the trans, genderqueer non-binary Person of Color janitor to figure out the complex mathematics required to put Neil Armstrong, the father of the moonwalk who grew up in Queens never knowing his father, on the moon.
All watched over by a 100% white audience with a penchant for self flagellation.
Spot on, sadly.All watched over by a 100% white audience with a penchant for self flagellation.
NapierDeltic said:
Continue on this trajectory and by 2050 you will have Armstrong: brothers on the moon. Cape Canaveral will be staffed by incompetent white men who bicker away and break off into effete soliloquies at every whim. It takes the trans, genderqueer non-binary Person of Color janitor to figure out the complex mathematics required to put Neil Armstrong, the father of the moonwalk who grew up in Queens never knowing his father, on the moon.
You probably neither know, nor care, that one of the lead programmers on the Apollo missions was a woman but her role is never celebrated or mentioned. Or that one of the men picked to train as an astronaut was black but was dropped from the programme because some of his white colleagues refused to train with "a N
"Clockwork Cupcake said:
NapierDeltic said:
Continue on this trajectory and by 2050 you will have Armstrong: brothers on the moon. Cape Canaveral will be staffed by incompetent white men who bicker away and break off into effete soliloquies at every whim. It takes the trans, genderqueer non-binary Person of Color janitor to figure out the complex mathematics required to put Neil Armstrong, the father of the moonwalk who grew up in Queens never knowing his father, on the moon.
You probably neither know, nor care, that one of the lead programmers on the Apollo missions was a woman but her role is never celebrated or mentioned. Or that one of the men picked to train as an astronaut was black but was dropped from the programme because some of his white colleagues refused to train with "a N"DoubleD said:
Wasnt NASA boosted by taking Nazis over to America? Nazis who apparently knew about concentration camps?
Yup. That too. 
Wernher von Braun was the lead designer on the Apollo programme and had previously designed the V2 rockets used by the Nazis. The Americans poached him, and a large team of Nazi scientists (something like 70 people from memory?), at the end of WW2.
Clockwork Cupcake said:
DoubleD said:
Wasnt NASA boosted by taking Nazis over to America? Nazis who apparently knew about concentration camps?
Yup. That too. Wernher von Braun was the lead designer on the Apollo programme and had previously designed the V2 rockets used by the Nazis. The Americans poached him, and a large team of Nazi scientists (something like 70 people from memory?), at the end of WW2.
DoubleD said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
NapierDeltic said:
Continue on this trajectory and by 2050 you will have Armstrong: brothers on the moon. Cape Canaveral will be staffed by incompetent white men who bicker away and break off into effete soliloquies at every whim. It takes the trans, genderqueer non-binary Person of Color janitor to figure out the complex mathematics required to put Neil Armstrong, the father of the moonwalk who grew up in Queens never knowing his father, on the moon.
You probably neither know, nor care, that one of the lead programmers on the Apollo missions was a woman but her role is never celebrated or mentioned. Or that one of the men picked to train as an astronaut was black but was dropped from the programme because some of his white colleagues refused to train with "a N"V8mate said:
Though the Americans needed no help whatsoever in maligning their own women and non-whites.
Indeed. They were world leaders in that already. 
During WW2, American airmen based in England had to be briefed that Britain did not practice racial segregation and not to ask where the whites-only toilets were.
Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Sunday 19th July 13:14
Clockwork Cupcake said:
I don't think anyone wants to erase or rewrite history. But I think it is perfectly valid to stop celebrating aspects of it. For example, removing a statue honouring a slave trader that was already hugely divisive and had long been campaigned for removal, is entirely valid. I don't agree with the vigilante way in which it happened, mind, but I totally condone the desire to stop celebrating / honouring a slave trader.
Without wishing to invoke Godwin's Law, in Germany they do not try to pretend WW2 never happened, but they do not honour it and there is a sense of national shame about it. They don't have statues commemorating key figures from WW2.
Without wishing to invoke Godwin's Law, in Germany they do not try to pretend WW2 never happened, but they do not honour it and there is a sense of national shame about it. They don't have statues commemorating key figures from WW2.
This is from the parish church, Kollnau, Baden-Württemberg, Germany, granted not key figures.
Sorry about the shot, I had it the correct way round, but it somehow reverted.
Clockwork Cupcake said:
You probably neither know, nor care, that one of the lead programmers on the Apollo missions was a woman but her role is never celebrated or mentioned. Or that one of the men picked to train as an astronaut was black but was dropped from the programme because some of his white colleagues refused to train with "a N"
Just how many lead programmers on Apollo missions are celebrated and mentioned?"The first African American picked for Astronaut Training was Ed Dwight. One of 26 applicants for 11 places. Dwight came 15th in the selection but the White house wanted a black astronaut so three more places were added.
He was later one of 136 applicants for NASA Astronaut Group 3, he was also one the 26 recommended by the Air Force, but didn't get one of the 14 places.
Dr Jekyll said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
You probably neither know, nor care, that one of the lead programmers on the Apollo missions was a woman but her role is never celebrated or mentioned. Or that one of the men picked to train as an astronaut was black but was dropped from the programme because some of his white colleagues refused to train with "a N"
Just how many lead programmers on Apollo missions are celebrated and mentioned?"The first African American picked for Astronaut Training was Ed Dwight. One of 26 applicants for 11 places. Dwight came 15th in the selection but the White house wanted a black astronaut so three more places were added.
He was later one of 136 applicants for NASA Astronaut Group 3, he was also one the 26 recommended by the Air Force, but didn't get one of the 14 places.
MartG said:
V6 Pushfit said:
bigpriest said:
Web forms for 'Contact Us' on websites. Click Submit and your carefully worded message disappears never to be seen/heard of again.
...and the company has no phone number, a difficult to find email address and doesn’t monitor it’s contact form replies. Ended up finding the MD on Facebook and posting a complaint publicly on their page - he wasn't happy
Cold said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
You probably neither know, nor care, that one of the lead programmers on the Apollo missions was a woman but her role is never celebrated or mentioned. Or that one of the men picked to train as an astronaut was black but was dropped from the programme because some of his white colleagues refused to train with "a N"
Just how many lead programmers on Apollo missions are celebrated and mentioned?"The first African American picked for Astronaut Training was Ed Dwight. One of 26 applicants for 11 places. Dwight came 15th in the selection but the White house wanted a black astronaut so three more places were added.
He was later one of 136 applicants for NASA Astronaut Group 3, he was also one the 26 recommended by the Air Force, but didn't get one of the 14 places.
Frank7 said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
I don't think anyone wants to erase or rewrite history. But I think it is perfectly valid to stop celebrating aspects of it. For example, removing a statue honouring a slave trader that was already hugely divisive and had long been campaigned for removal, is entirely valid. I don't agree with the vigilante way in which it happened, mind, but I totally condone the desire to stop celebrating / honouring a slave trader.
Without wishing to invoke Godwin's Law, in Germany they do not try to pretend WW2 never happened, but they do not honour it and there is a sense of national shame about it. They don't have statues commemorating key figures from WW2.
Without wishing to invoke Godwin's Law, in Germany they do not try to pretend WW2 never happened, but they do not honour it and there is a sense of national shame about it. They don't have statues commemorating key figures from WW2.
This is from the parish church, Kollnau, Baden-Württemberg, Germany, granted not key figures.
Sorry about the shot, I had it the correct way round, but it somehow reverted.
Airfare refunds. It always amazes me that even if you buy from an airline directly, they take the $$ from your account within one minute. Cancel and ask for a refund - takes weeks. Is there a legitimate reason for the slowness of the refund or is it just their unethical business model?
popeyewhite said:
Further there are memorials to the fallen of WWII in virtually every German town or village - some of these inevitably feature statues (though there aren't many). There is no real national shame in Germany concerning WWII, it's more that this is the position mostly German politicians have decided the people of their country should take. The fact is discussion of WWII is taboo.
Isn't there an Oxford college with 2 WW1 memorials, one for each side? It's perfectly possible to respect the dead irrespective of what you think of what they were fighting for.This weekends annoyance, a recently developed "community orchard" in Mirfield.
Previously this land was a nice little wooded area, with a small beck running through it. It was a good little spot to take the dog through and generally a nice and peaceful spot if you wanted to sit by the beck.
However this has now been developed into a community orchard, all the trees straight ahead and to the right hand side in the picture have been cleared and replaced with around a dozen apple trees and the rest of the site just looks like a waste land.
Who in their right mind thought clearing the natural woodland and replacing it with some apple trees. Clearly these will grow but it will never be as nice as the natural.
Previously this land was a nice little wooded area, with a small beck running through it. It was a good little spot to take the dog through and generally a nice and peaceful spot if you wanted to sit by the beck.
However this has now been developed into a community orchard, all the trees straight ahead and to the right hand side in the picture have been cleared and replaced with around a dozen apple trees and the rest of the site just looks like a waste land.
Who in their right mind thought clearing the natural woodland and replacing it with some apple trees. Clearly these will grow but it will never be as nice as the natural.
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