Dating again when you aren't all that...

Dating again when you aren't all that...

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V8covin

7,316 posts

193 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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WinstonWolf said:
I asked my Mrs what she first liked about me, "your broad back" was the answer.

If you're in good shape you feel better about yourself which is appealing to most women.
There's plenty of men with broad backs and beer bellies.
Yes,many people have a type,that can be thin,well built,tall,short,blonde, brunette etc.
You can't cater for all of them.
They say you need to love yourself before others can love you which I agree with to a degree.
So far as the OP is considered I fear internet dating would kill any self belief he has left, it's an incredibly harsh world.
He'd be better off meeting people just by doing stuff in the real world.....as would most of us !

anonymous-user

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54 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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Council Baby said:
Forget dating, it’s expensive, soul destroying and if you’re not all that to look at, really fking difficult to get anything over a 4/10.

Hookers are fixed price, don’t moan at you and fk off afterwards so you can play with cars.

You can have multiple hookers and keep your balls, you can’t say the same about girlfriends.
So why do you keep going for 4/10 hookers?

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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anonymous said:
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Because he's a bit of a... Oh wait, I can't say that here.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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anonymous said:
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hehe

Council Baby

19,741 posts

190 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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anonymous said:
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hehe

I blame the drink, they all look like 10s until morning

TheJimi

24,993 posts

243 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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Lemming Train said:
TheJimi said:
banghead

OP, please don't do this ^^

Some thoughts of mine, in no particular order, and to repeat some thoughts that have already been given –

If you have self-esteem issues, whether borne of the physical or mental – do not use online dating / dating apps. 

Start training and lifting weights, with decent nutrition.  It cannot be overstated the net positive effect that will have on your life.  Plus, you’ll naturally develop friends, both male and female in the gym.

To follow on from that, make sure you look good naked. Being in good physical shape REALLY boosts things, both from the perspective of others, and in terms of your own self-esteem.  If you can’t easily, if at all, fix the other stuff like the skin condition, focus on the stuff you CAN fix.

How do you dress?  Do you wear well fitting clothes?  Or do you just chuck on whatever?  If the latter, this is a BIG easy win.  Wearing clothes that suit you, and are well fitted, make a HUGE difference to how you look to other people, and how you feel about yourself.
Agreed mostly, but he isn't going to enjoy the gym with self-esteem and appearance issues when the places are largely packed with people already in very good shape, so that's a non-starter. Also, telling people to work-out and just get fit is far, far easier said than done and will take years of hard work and dedication if he's let himself go.
Some points -

I didn’t say it was going to be easily done.

6 months with commitment could see big and tangible changes.

I know it’s easier said than done.  I’ve done it myself, albeit from the opposite end of the scale.

I also had big self-esteem issues, particularly with girls teasing me as a teenager for being skinny, so walking into a gym REALLY wasn’t easy for me. At all.

Also, why talk about the idea being a non starter when the OP hasn't even responded to the idea? He talks about low esteem of his looks primarily from the perspective of a romantic engagement, not necessarily everyday life.

The OP doesn't need vicarious negativity.


Edited by TheJimi on Tuesday 27th August 15:48

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

72 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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TheJimi said:
Some points -

  • I didn’t say it was going to be easily done.
  • 6 months with commitment could see big and tangible changes.
  • I know it’s easier said than done.  I’ve done it myself, albeit from the opposite end of the scale.
  • I also had big self-esteem issues, particularly with girls teasing me as a teenager for being skinny, so walking into a gym REALLY wasn’t easy for me. At all.
Also, why talk about the idea being a non starter when the OP hasn't even responded to the idea? He talks about low esteem of his looks primarily from the perspective of a romantic engagement, not necessarily everyday life.

The OP doesn't need vicarious negativity.
It wasn't meant to come across as negativity, it was more a dose of realism. As I said above, I fully agree with you on the rest of the points in your OP, especially on the 'feeling good about/in yourself' bit as I'm currently experiencing that myself having recently shed a third of my weight. The confidence boost it gives you can't easily be put into words and also being able to wear clothes that are comfortable and fit properly. thumbup

TheJimi

24,993 posts

243 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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I hear you dude smile

Well done on your own efforts. As I say, I know it ain't easy.

Davos123

5,966 posts

212 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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PAULJ5555 said:
The blokes tell me this, I have lived with/dated British girls for 20-30 years, they are spoiled, fat, selfish, loud mouthed, horrible people when you look inside. The Thai girlfriends are appreciative of everything as mostly they came from nothing a shack/hut in some cases.
I feel like anyone with this twisted a view on women should be looking at themselves a little more than others if they want to know where the problem lies.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

72 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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TheJimi said:
I hear you dude smile

Well done on your own efforts. As I say, I know it ain't easy.
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OP has gone quiet. Should we assume he has taken all the good advice on board is currently busy down the gym pedalling hard on the spinner? smile

Puggit

48,440 posts

248 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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Simple work outs include 30-40 minutes of brisk walking every day. I managed to lose (and keep off) around 1.5 stone just being drinking far less and walking every day. The dog helps!

Hair - buy a Phillips Body Groomer - trim it all down. Get the back waxed.

TheJimi

24,993 posts

243 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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OP, where in the country are you?

If you fancy training, and don't feel up to the gym for the first time on your own, I'll come with you.

Even if you're at the other side of country, I'll come.

hadenough!

3,785 posts

260 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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See you next Tuesday...

Register1

2,140 posts

94 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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El stovey said:
Can you become rich or famous?

Check out what people like trump or F1s Bernie or Paul Daniels have managed? Or if you’re not rich or famous maybe go somewhere where you’re relatively rich like Southeast Asia, loads of British blokes have one well there plus the weather and food is great?
Some very, very beautiful Chinese girls.

TartanPaint

2,989 posts

139 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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OP, let THEM decide you're not good enough. Don't ever do it for them.

Randy Winkman

16,136 posts

189 months

Tuesday 27th August 2019
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Davos123 said:
PAULJ5555 said:
The blokes tell me this, I have lived with/dated British girls for 20-30 years, they are spoiled, fat, selfish, loud mouthed, horrible people when you look inside. The Thai girlfriends are appreciative of everything as mostly they came from nothing a shack/hut in some cases.
I feel like anyone with this twisted a view on women should be looking at themselves a little more than others if they want to know where the problem lies.
I agree. Does PaulJ really think the UK women are "worse" than the men?

anonymous-user

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54 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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TheJimi said:
OP, where in the country are you?

If you fancy training, and don't feel up to the gym for the first time on your own, I'll come with you.

Even if you're at the other side of country, I'll come.
Wow mate, that's really kind of you. I've joined a gym and am feeling reasonably confident about getting back in there again so should be okay in that respect (was gym mad some time ago, so just a case of getting myself back in to a routine).

Thanks to everyone else as well, genuinely is a case of loving the person you are, and I can see that clearly now, I was looking for someone to give me validation when I should look at what ive accomplished, what I have going for me, and emphasise that strongly, which feeling a little less under it now I genuinely feel I can do.

Been really useful getting advise and support here, so thank you , I'm not out of the woods but at least I can set a direction and start walking.

crofty1984

15,859 posts

204 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Buy a motorbike. Might not help with the dating, but they're ace. If you get an old one you can do it up.

Baldchap

7,641 posts

92 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Worth noting, no amount of exercise will make a difference if your diet is crap.

I put on weight training for my first marathon because I thought I could eat what I wanted of I ran 50 miles per week.

Any runner will tell you: You can't outrun a bad diet. MyFitnessPal app is great for getting your head in the right place with regards to diet.

theboss

6,914 posts

219 months

Thursday 29th August 2019
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Randy Winkman said:
Davos123 said:
PAULJ5555 said:
The blokes tell me this, I have lived with/dated British girls for 20-30 years, they are spoiled, fat, selfish, loud mouthed, horrible people when you look inside. The Thai girlfriends are appreciative of everything as mostly they came from nothing a shack/hut in some cases.
I feel like anyone with this twisted a view on women should be looking at themselves a little more than others if they want to know where the problem lies.
I agree. Does PaulJ really think the UK women are "worse" than the men?
It’s a fairly common opinion amongst foreigners (mainly women) I’ve spoken to, which is interesting.

My own observation is that women from more socially conservative cultures are more content with traditional gender stereotypes and roles, consider feminism insulting, and generally lack any sense of automatic entitlement.

My wife is Serbian and, when asked to generalise British women, will say they are generally more fat, less caring of appearance and lazy/entitled. A sweeping generalisation of course, but it’s based on her unbiased observations here, and unlike a Brit she will generally say what she thinks without being apologetic. I’ve pointed out that men are equally fat , uncaring of appearance etc and she just replies that that’s men in general.

An Italian au pair I knew a few years ago expressed the opinion that in all the British households she had entered, she generally thought the men were good husbands and fathers who would help her manage the house and kids whilst the lazy wife sat playing with a phone or went clothes shopping. She was really strongly opinionated about this and demanded to know what was wrong with these women.

A Romanian I dated expressed similar impressions having spent a few years here. Etc etc.

Edited by theboss on Thursday 29th August 11:48