Pistonheaders pay it forwards challenge.
Discussion
ambuletz said:
sorry but the idea of pay it forward is for people wanting a meal who probably cant afford it. many US small restaurants/fast food places do this as a way of people feeding those who have no money/are homeless.
I think you're seeing it the wrong way. Paying it forward is doing a favour to someone, because someone else did you a favour. As an example, a few years ago I got my car stuck in the snow. A passing Transit full of builders heaved me out and wouldn't take any payment. Two days later I saw a couple of youngsters just miss the last bus home, so I gave them a lift to their nearest bus stop. Doing a good deed doesn't need to involve money or plastering it all over social media, it's the pleasant feeling you get for having helped out another human in need, no matter what it may be. A restaurant's main purpose is to feed people, so by offering free food they're just doing what they can. A family friend of mine fainted in a park a few months ago, and an off-duty paramedic taking his dog for a walk quickly ran over and administered medical care. I highly doubt the lovely chap went home and went on twitter to say "lol helped an old guy who fainted in the park #win #fail #faint".
Second Best said:
ambuletz said:
sorry but the idea of pay it forward is for people wanting a meal who probably cant afford it. many US small restaurants/fast food places do this as a way of people feeding those who have no money/are homeless.
I think you're seeing it the wrong way. Paying it forward is doing a favour to someone, because someone else did you a favour. As an example, a few years ago I got my car stuck in the snow. A passing Transit full of builders heaved me out and wouldn't take any payment. Two days later I saw a couple of youngsters just miss the last bus home, so I gave them a lift to their nearest bus stop. Doing a good deed doesn't need to involve money or plastering it all over social media, it's the pleasant feeling you get for having helped out another human in need, no matter what it may be. A restaurant's main purpose is to feed people, so by offering free food they're just doing what they can. A family friend of mine fainted in a park a few months ago, and an off-duty paramedic taking his dog for a walk quickly ran over and administered medical care. I highly doubt the lovely chap went home and went on twitter to say "lol helped an old guy who fainted in the park #win #fail #faint".
ambuletz said:
sorry but the idea of pay it forward is for people wanting a meal who probably cant afford it. many US small restaurants/fast food places do this as a way of people feeding those who have no money/are homeless.
Not really, it can be what you want it to be.The position of my house means I semi-regularly get people pulling up outside with minor breakdowns - flat tyres, low coolant, that kind of thing.
If I'm around, I'll try and help them out. Way I see it, next time it might be me stuck in a pickle, or my mum etc.
Same idea here really.
eltax91 said:
I’m stuck in an arse of a predicament. I am fortunate enough to have built my own house last year. I had a conduit put in the ground to allow me to pass cables from the rear of the garage, so 40m away at the front drive.
After lots of heave ho, head scratching and snapping of a draw cable, I still can’t get the 4mm sq armoured 3-core through the conduit. It’s gets stuck no matter what I try, I don’t think there’s a blockage as the end comes out clean and it doesn’t feel blocked, it just gets harder and harder until it’s just impossible.
I’ve gate men waiting on cable being pulled and fence men waiting on gate men starting and it’s doing my head in.
If someone could magic that problem away for me I’d be very happy to pay forward. I have limited skills as I work in IT security, but I do have a 2 post lift and loads of tools in my garage in Leicestershire to pay forward with.
I visited a factory where they made put rubber pipe inside spiral armoured tubing (flexible gas hose) basically they used compressed air. It wriggled and farted a bit but just popped out the other end. I was surprised and impressed in equally measure.After lots of heave ho, head scratching and snapping of a draw cable, I still can’t get the 4mm sq armoured 3-core through the conduit. It’s gets stuck no matter what I try, I don’t think there’s a blockage as the end comes out clean and it doesn’t feel blocked, it just gets harder and harder until it’s just impossible.
I’ve gate men waiting on cable being pulled and fence men waiting on gate men starting and it’s doing my head in.
If someone could magic that problem away for me I’d be very happy to pay forward. I have limited skills as I work in IT security, but I do have a 2 post lift and loads of tools in my garage in Leicestershire to pay forward with.
Your first problem might be getting compressed air on site but then if you can make something of a correct shape linked to a piece of string you should be able to push it through.
I'm in! What I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career...
In all seriousness, it's a nice idea but how do you ensure the reciprocal favour is of equal or similar measure? I just have visions of "somebody helped with a flat tyre, I'm now rewiring an entire 5 bed house!"
Maybe not to that extreme but you get the gist.
In all seriousness, it's a nice idea but how do you ensure the reciprocal favour is of equal or similar measure? I just have visions of "somebody helped with a flat tyre, I'm now rewiring an entire 5 bed house!"
Maybe not to that extreme but you get the gist.
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
Missing the point by a mile. Money is a transaction. Someone paying you kindness, then you having to pay it forward is about community, which is what PH is.
No. Communities help each other without the need for ‘favour debt’ and/or boasting about it online. The kindest people are doing amazing things on the quiet.
talksthetorque said:
Let's see if Scrump comes up with the free motorbike first eh?
But seriously, if something becomes a closed loop, then great - n pistonheaders helped out and maybe a fresh start from somewhere else.
I sold the bike over the summer.But seriously, if something becomes a closed loop, then great - n pistonheaders helped out and maybe a fresh start from somewhere else.
Thanks for reminding me to update my garage.
I am trying to work out what "skill" I have which I could use to help someone else out
MrsMiggins said:
I'm not sure how an online community could pay it forward without "online boasting".
I like the idea OP but it seems like it'll be hard to make it work, especially in the less populated parts of the country.
I'm in agreement here, i get the whole pay it forward thing but how as a community is PH going to know that you've paid it forward? I like the idea OP but it seems like it'll be hard to make it work, especially in the less populated parts of the country.
If someone sees me walking home in a deluge and stops to offer me a lift - even though i have full waterproofs on - then i'm out and about and see someone struggling to move a broken down car and help them move it to safety, how will PH know?
Essentially it becomes like a huge willy waving exercise.
Don't get me wrong, i'm all for it and if someone on here has a set of skills that can help you out, then great.
slopes said:
I'm in agreement here, i get the whole pay it forward thing but how as a community is PH going to know that you've paid it forward?
If someone sees me walking home in a deluge and stops to offer me a lift - even though i have full waterproofs on - then i'm out and about and see someone struggling to move a broken down car and help them move it to safety, how will PH know?
Essentially it becomes like a huge willy waving exercise.
Don't get me wrong, i'm all for it and if someone on here has a set of skills that can help you out, then great.
The community isn’t going to know. The payer and the payee will know, and hopefully on it goes. If someone sees me walking home in a deluge and stops to offer me a lift - even though i have full waterproofs on - then i'm out and about and see someone struggling to move a broken down car and help them move it to safety, how will PH know?
Essentially it becomes like a huge willy waving exercise.
Don't get me wrong, i'm all for it and if someone on here has a set of skills that can help you out, then great.
elanfan said:
eltax91 said:
I’m stuck in an arse of a predicament. I am fortunate enough to have built my own house last year. I had a conduit put in the ground to allow me to pass cables from the rear of the garage, so 40m away at the front drive.
After lots of heave ho, head scratching and snapping of a draw cable, I still can’t get the 4mm sq armoured 3-core through the conduit. It’s gets stuck no matter what I try, I don’t think there’s a blockage as the end comes out clean and it doesn’t feel blocked, it just gets harder and harder until it’s just impossible.
I’ve gate men waiting on cable being pulled and fence men waiting on gate men starting and it’s doing my head in.
If someone could magic that problem away for me I’d be very happy to pay forward. I have limited skills as I work in IT security, but I do have a 2 post lift and loads of tools in my garage in Leicestershire to pay forward with.
I visited a factory where they made put rubber pipe inside spiral armoured tubing (flexible gas hose) basically they used compressed air. It wriggled and farted a bit but just popped out the other end. I was surprised and impressed in equally measure.After lots of heave ho, head scratching and snapping of a draw cable, I still can’t get the 4mm sq armoured 3-core through the conduit. It’s gets stuck no matter what I try, I don’t think there’s a blockage as the end comes out clean and it doesn’t feel blocked, it just gets harder and harder until it’s just impossible.
I’ve gate men waiting on cable being pulled and fence men waiting on gate men starting and it’s doing my head in.
If someone could magic that problem away for me I’d be very happy to pay forward. I have limited skills as I work in IT security, but I do have a 2 post lift and loads of tools in my garage in Leicestershire to pay forward with.
Your first problem might be getting compressed air on site but then if you can make something of a correct shape linked to a piece of string you should be able to push it through.
To get a new pull string through, put a vacuum cleaner on one end a compressor on the other. Once you have a thin string through, go for the next size up, making the join as tapered as possible - tying a know will not work - a home made splice will do the job. (Thin down both ends of the strings, join them together and cover it all in insulation tape to get a smooth taper increasing in size)
When you get to a strong string through, do the same with joining in the power cable - gentle taper up to full size. Note the taper, as if you have it taped onto the side with a step - this will be the side that catches the ledge, guaranteed. Keep the vacuum cleaner and compressor in as much use as you can, and as an above poster mentioned try lubing up the cable - just not with something that will either be eaten or eat the plastic.
Good luck!
MYOB said:
We should always offer help to others and expect nothing in return. That's my philosophy.
A great idea in principle but not sure how it works online especially as many of us help others without funfare.
I don't think any fanfare is needed or called for. Maybe a wiki, to state when some one has received a good deed, and when they've paid one forward. If they feel the desire to the recipient can comment. This shouldn't be about praise seeking. A great idea in principle but not sure how it works online especially as many of us help others without funfare.
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
MYOB said:
We should always offer help to others and expect nothing in return. That's my philosophy.
A great idea in principle but not sure how it works online especially as many of us help others without funfare.
I don't think any fanfare is needed or called for. Maybe a wiki, to state when some one has received a good deed, and when they've paid one forward. If they feel the desire to the recipient can comment. This shouldn't be about praise seeking. A great idea in principle but not sure how it works online especially as many of us help others without funfare.
If you wanted to do something worthwhile as a community, we can make the BREXIT threads pay to post.
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