Latest trick to bypass eBay fees?

Latest trick to bypass eBay fees?

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Deranged Rover

3,409 posts

75 months

Monday 22nd April
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SimonTheSailor said:
Still no offers - have they stopped ?!
I had an 80% offer three weeks ago and another one this weekend.

They clearly don’t like you… wink

blue_haddock

3,224 posts

68 months

Monday 22nd April
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Yep I had an offer ending tonight but couldn't be bothered to list anything.

steveamv8

197 posts

77 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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I've not sold or bought anything for a couple of years on E-bay
so my bank details have all changed .
They dont have my bank details

I offered something for sale
tried to put all the bank details in but couldn't due to there robotic responses.
So gave up and pulled the advert

They came back to me and said they have sold the item
even although I had no bidders and it was still sitting in my garage and I now owe them 57.00 pound

They are now threatening to send the boys around.
Oh and I will have a crap rating on many further listings.

They can JOG ON.



Spare tyre

9,592 posts

131 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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steveamv8 said:
I've not sold or bought anything for a couple of years on E-bay
so my bank details have all changed .
They dont have my bank details

I offered something for sale
tried to put all the bank details in but couldn't due to there robotic responses.
So gave up and pulled the advert

They came back to me and said they have sold the item
even although I had no bidders and it was still sitting in my garage and I now owe them 57.00 pound

They are now threatening to send the boys around.
Oh and I will have a crap rating on many further listings.

They can JOG ON.

Be careful not to get a ccj or whatever it’s called these days

markymarkthree

2,275 posts

172 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Small time seller here. I get the 80% every 2 weeks and either re-list stuff or put a couple of odds and ends on.
I go to a few autojumbles, pick up some bargains and put it on EBAY. Best buyers for the best prices come from foreign lands.
Also now selling clothing as it is free.

vikingaero

10,379 posts

170 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Spare tyre said:
steveamv8 said:
I've not sold or bought anything for a couple of years on E-bay
so my bank details have all changed .
They dont have my bank details

I offered something for sale
tried to put all the bank details in but couldn't due to there robotic responses.
So gave up and pulled the advert

They came back to me and said they have sold the item
even although I had no bidders and it was still sitting in my garage and I now owe them 57.00 pound

They are now threatening to send the boys around.
Oh and I will have a crap rating on many further listings.

They can JOG ON.

Be careful not to get a ccj or whatever it’s called these days
Years ago I used to give financial advice on behalf of CAB. Most of the debts relating to eBay/PayPal (when they were more closely intertwined back then) were none starters. eBay and PayPal certainly had their inhouse pet debt recovery company (DRS). DRS would send you 101 emails, robotic calls and letters - the emails could be blocked or ignored, mobiles allow you to block callers and letters can be thrown in the recycling. Certainly for debt recovery companies their actions are very limited. The cost of a vehicle, mobile and an employee to doorstep debtors is uneconomical when you chase a £50 debt. At the most your accounts with eBay and PayPal will be trashed but life went on before either of them.

Certainly neither company have ever been known to issue Court Summons due to the cost of Court Fees, Solicitors attending etc. Yes you can pile these on the debt, but even with a CCJ, you still don't have the money. Can you imagine eBay telling a judge:

- we gave the buyer a refund and told him to keep the item
- we charge the seller fees even though he still has the item

eBay and PayPals rules are often petty and designed to compete with Amazon/supermarket returns, but they fail at common sense. Whilst I use eBay I could't give 2 hoots if someone tries to circumvent their fees.

ChocolateFrog

25,464 posts

174 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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GliderRider said:
The latest one I had was a business seller listing brake discs, without a photo. All the specs were as per the ones I needed, so I clicked Buy It Now. Then I received a message from the seller asking my registration, which I duly sent. Then I received a reply saying they weren't the right ones for my car and that I should send an extra £20 by bank transfer to the account number he provided.
Firstly, this would have made the discs dearer than others I could have bought, and secondly that extra £20 wouldn't have been covered by any Ebay protection, so I asked him to cancel the sale. The seller refunded me, but said that was so I could buy the discs on his revised listing, which I didn't.

The other one recently, although not to get around fees, but a mis discribed item, was when buying a new 45AH car battery (as described in the listing title). When I received it, it quite clearly said 35AH on the side, so I queried this with the seller. This was his response:

"Dear Glider Rider,

Unit supplied 100% CORRECT
Many thanks for your purchase, most appreciated, we are always here and happy to help.
I can confirm the battery supplied is the Flagship Brand HELDEN.
In line with industry standards, both AH measurements are displayed.
The C100 measurement 45ah, and the C20 measurement 35ah.
I hope this helps to explain and solve any confusion.
Kindest Regards
xxxxxxxx"

As I had already put it in the car, I didn't bother pursuing it, but I did feel they were playing fast and loose, so I won't ever use them again. Having a read of the description, it actually includes this further down the blurb: "SPECIFACATION 35AH(C20) 40AH(C100) 360CCA 12 VOLTS" (sic), so 45AH doesn't even get a mention except in the title and his reply to my query!
Need to pull them up on it or they'll keep doing it.

Ig you open a dispute they may offer a discount as shipping a battery back would be expensive.

Ebay I'd great for buyers.

I reckon I query or dispute 25-40% of the things I buy because they're not exactly as described.

Ebay always sides with the buyer or reimburses both sides.

vikingaero

10,379 posts

170 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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ChocolateFrog said:
GliderRider said:
The latest one I had was a business seller listing brake discs, without a photo. All the specs were as per the ones I needed, so I clicked Buy It Now. Then I received a message from the seller asking my registration, which I duly sent. Then I received a reply saying they weren't the right ones for my car and that I should send an extra £20 by bank transfer to the account number he provided.
Firstly, this would have made the discs dearer than others I could have bought, and secondly that extra £20 wouldn't have been covered by any Ebay protection, so I asked him to cancel the sale. The seller refunded me, but said that was so I could buy the discs on his revised listing, which I didn't.

The other one recently, although not to get around fees, but a mis discribed item, was when buying a new 45AH car battery (as described in the listing title). When I received it, it quite clearly said 35AH on the side, so I queried this with the seller. This was his response:

"Dear Glider Rider,

Unit supplied 100% CORRECT
Many thanks for your purchase, most appreciated, we are always here and happy to help.
I can confirm the battery supplied is the Flagship Brand HELDEN.
In line with industry standards, both AH measurements are displayed.
The C100 measurement 45ah, and the C20 measurement 35ah.
I hope this helps to explain and solve any confusion.
Kindest Regards
xxxxxxxx"

As I had already put it in the car, I didn't bother pursuing it, but I did feel they were playing fast and loose, so I won't ever use them again. Having a read of the description, it actually includes this further down the blurb: "SPECIFACATION 35AH(C20) 40AH(C100) 360CCA 12 VOLTS" (sic), so 45AH doesn't even get a mention except in the title and his reply to my query!
Need to pull them up on it or they'll keep doing it.

Ig you open a dispute they may offer a discount as shipping a battery back would be expensive.

Ebay I'd great for buyers.

I reckon I query or dispute 25-40% of the things I buy because they're not exactly as described.

Ebay always sides with the buyer or reimburses both sides.
I'm actually involved in a return with a battery from an eBay seller. The advert was for an OEM battery and showed a pic of the OEM battery, but as I bought on my mobile, I failed to notice the description: "...NB THIS BATTERY IS EQUIVALENT . AN ALTERNATIVE BRAND. Pictures for illustration purpose only.".

So an alternative brand arrived, which had the correct Ah & Ah. but with the + & - poles reversed, being the reason for a refund/return.