Using your benefit money for gambling
Discussion
GOATever said:
That’s life. Every gambling establishment, every low cost food / beer place, always full of dole scum. The thing that makes me giggle, is when they start on about “getting paid” or “their money” then use it for a week in Benidorm or something. Don’t even get me started on how these turds get first dibs on any ‘social housing’ ( which is usually a new development, which is on general sale too) the developers won’t tell you which places the scumbags have got either, so you risk buying a place, next to something that wouldn’t look out of place being scraped off your Loake brogues 
FTFYEdited by GOATever on Friday 29th November 11:08
funkyrobot said:
How is this allowed?
On benefits, but visiting a gambling establishment and spending said benefits multiple times a week.
Then moaning to your other gambling benefit plonkers that you don't get enough money.
How on earth can someone be on benefits and be allowed to spunk it all away gambling?
If that isn't bad enough, the novelty crutches that are sometimes forgotten make it even better.
It's crazy!
Then you have the people who are massively overweight, puffing on an inhaler but next minute are outside smoking. They moan about money but always seem to have enough to gamble and buy cigarettes. One even had a holiday to Spain last month.
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king hell. I must be doing something wrong. 
Worst “I vote Tory” thread ever.On benefits, but visiting a gambling establishment and spending said benefits multiple times a week.
Then moaning to your other gambling benefit plonkers that you don't get enough money.
How on earth can someone be on benefits and be allowed to spunk it all away gambling?
If that isn't bad enough, the novelty crutches that are sometimes forgotten make it even better.
It's crazy!
Then you have the people who are massively overweight, puffing on an inhaler but next minute are outside smoking. They moan about money but always seem to have enough to gamble and buy cigarettes. One even had a holiday to Spain last month.
f
king hell. I must be doing something wrong. 
PMacanGTS said:
funkyrobot said:
How is this allowed?
On benefits, but visiting a gambling establishment and spending said benefits multiple times a week.
Then moaning to your other gambling benefit plonkers that you don't get enough money.
How on earth can someone be on benefits and be allowed to spunk it all away gambling?
If that isn't bad enough, the novelty crutches that are sometimes forgotten make it even better.
It's crazy!
Then you have the people who are massively overweight, puffing on an inhaler but next minute are outside smoking. They moan about money but always seem to have enough to gamble and buy cigarettes. One even had a holiday to Spain last month.
fking hell. I must be doing something wrong.
You see the effects, but are clearly struggling to decipher the causes. If I were you, rather than getting angry, I'd take an hour or two and think about why people gamble, smoke and excessively eat cheap and nutritionally bankrupt food. On benefits, but visiting a gambling establishment and spending said benefits multiple times a week.
Then moaning to your other gambling benefit plonkers that you don't get enough money.
How on earth can someone be on benefits and be allowed to spunk it all away gambling?
If that isn't bad enough, the novelty crutches that are sometimes forgotten make it even better.
It's crazy!
Then you have the people who are massively overweight, puffing on an inhaler but next minute are outside smoking. They moan about money but always seem to have enough to gamble and buy cigarettes. One even had a holiday to Spain last month.
f
king hell. I must be doing something wrong. I guess being on benefits and gambling is no different to the bods at our local council. They take risks with other people's money too.
I'm not getting angry. It just baffles me that a system set up to help people in need is abused so openly in such a way.
I have a recently diagnosed health issue that causes me pain. I have a long term back issue that has caused me problems on and off for over 12 years. I also have mental health and anxiety issues. It has never stopped me trying and I still go to work, despite sometimes being quite anxious and my hip giving me a load of grief. I guess I find it odd that I'm at work earning minimum wage and these shysters seem to carry on without a care in the world.
stuartmmcfc said:
funkyrobot said:
How is this allowed?
On benefits, but visiting a gambling establishment and spending said benefits multiple times a week.
Then moaning to your other gambling benefit plonkers that you don't get enough money.
How on earth can someone be on benefits and be allowed to spunk it all away gambling?
If that isn't bad enough, the novelty crutches that are sometimes forgotten make it even better.
It's crazy!
Then you have the people who are massively overweight, puffing on an inhaler but next minute are outside smoking. They moan about money but always seem to have enough to gamble and buy cigarettes. One even had a holiday to Spain last month.
fking hell. I must be doing something wrong.
Worst “I vote Tory” thread ever.On benefits, but visiting a gambling establishment and spending said benefits multiple times a week.
Then moaning to your other gambling benefit plonkers that you don't get enough money.
How on earth can someone be on benefits and be allowed to spunk it all away gambling?
If that isn't bad enough, the novelty crutches that are sometimes forgotten make it even better.
It's crazy!
Then you have the people who are massively overweight, puffing on an inhaler but next minute are outside smoking. They moan about money but always seem to have enough to gamble and buy cigarettes. One even had a holiday to Spain last month.
f
king hell. I must be doing something wrong. PAULJ5555 said:
It was brought in to help these people learn responsibility and how to budget/manage money, giving them a lesson on life. As you say what could go wrong.
But they got ooman rites init, they don't need no responsibilities.I am sure that the oft reported rise in use of foodbanks is due to the provision of said foodbanks. I mean, why "waste" money on food when you can get it for free, it leaves much more cash for scratchcards and ciggys. Then the Guardian can bang on about how the increase in foodbank use means that we are "failing" the poor.
At my son's school they have an option for Finance where they learn about APR, loans, savings, credit cards, pensions and all the stuff that should be compulsory learning for everyone in education.
Many poor people are poor because they are st with money, and that's a fact. You could give them millions and they'd still end up spunking it.
The thing is, no one is educating these people about the importance of budgeting and saving. If it were taught in schools then there'd almost certainly be an improvement.
t with money, and that's a fact. You could give them millions and they'd still end up spunking it. The thing is, no one is educating these people about the importance of budgeting and saving. If it were taught in schools then there'd almost certainly be an improvement.
MKnight702 said:
At my son's school they have an option for Finance where they learn about APR, loans, savings, credit cards, pensions and all the stuff that should be compulsory learning for everyone in education.
My dad has worked all his life and kept me clued up on these things till I was old and sensible enough to take over myself. But even with that help I think I'd have been far better learning about this than womens struggle to vote, or the lead up to World War 2 in history classes, or how to bake cakes in home economics. Algarve said:
My dad has worked all his life and kept me clued up on these things till I was old and sensible enough to take over myself. But even with that help I think I'd have been far better learning about this than womens struggle to vote, or the lead up to World War 2 in history classes, or how to bake cakes in home economics.
Unfortunately, I just think some are beyond help. They don't want to change or learn, especially when money is just given to them.On a slightly different note, one of my younger brothers is in a good NHS job and earns more than me and my wife. Yet he is now back at home with mum and dad at nearly 40 years old because he can't handle money. He has loan debts despite being in a council property that didn't cost much to rent at all. Thing is, I can't see him moving on now because he has been back two months and is about to head off on his fourth holiday this year (second in two months), despite promising my parents he will build himself back up financially whilst there. He is beyond help and will still be there when my parents are gone.
funkyrobot said:
How on earth can someone be on benefits and be allowed to spunk it all away gambling?
Boris, is that you? I guess because they are not good with money and dream of the "big win". In much the same way as many people gamble.... You don't have to be rich to have a gambling habit.
It is a shame that they are unfortunate enough to be on benefits, hopefully they will find a way out of that hole.
funkyrobot said:
He is beyond help and will still be there when my parents are gone.
I am afraid that when your parents are gone it will be "his" house, people like this see it as their right to have stuff now, the responsibility to save for their future doesn't figure.You on the other hand have probably worked to afford your own house so your brother will see it as "fair" that he gets your parents house, after all you already have one. The fact that you have not gone on multiple holidays per year because you were paying for the house is completely irrelevant in his eyes.
Jasandjules said:
funkyrobot said:
How on earth can someone be on benefits and be allowed to spunk it all away gambling?
Boris, is that you? I guess because they are not good with money and dream of the "big win". In much the same way as many people gamble.... You don't have to be rich to have a gambling habit.
It is a shame that they are unfortunate enough to be on benefits, hopefully they will find a way out of that hole.
p4cks said:
Many poor people are poor because they are st with money, and that's a fact. You could give them millions and they'd still end up spunking it.
The thing is, no one is educating these people about the importance of budgeting and saving. If it were taught in schools then there'd almost certainly be an improvement.
The Education and Skills Funding Agency spend millions paying for adult education courses for such people. Budgeting courses are on their list of things to run. The providers are also targetted on the social demographic attending the courses so don't imagine its all middle class women learning macrame. t with money, and that's a fact. You could give them millions and they'd still end up spunking it. The thing is, no one is educating these people about the importance of budgeting and saving. If it were taught in schools then there'd almost certainly be an improvement.
Edited by Supercilious Sid on Friday 29th November 13:42
Joey Deacon said:
Few months ago at customs at Orlando Airport I was embarrassed to be English...
I have to say, I do agree. My teeth really itch when I hear some of the English come out here. Embarrassing!On the other subject, the problem is that as long as the country is democratic, this will never change.
I still wouldn't swap my lot for theirs!
A few years ago me and some mates went into a casino in Manchester for a flutter. Sitting at the blackjack table next to me was a rather care-worn lady (she looked 45 but was probably early 30s) who was shifting quite a bit of cash (tattoo to teeth ratio suggested she hadn't been driven in from Prestbury in the back of a Bentley).
She was having a bad run and eventually had to leave the table as she had no more money. We stayed on the table for around another 30 mins and then decided to go elsewhere (well a mate of mine had lost £600 on the roulette tables and was feeling a bit queasy). The careworn lady in question was sitting on the steps outside the casino in floods of tears. We asked her if she was alright a were treated to a torrent of abuse. She certainly didn't look like she was living the high-life.
A few years ago me and some mates went into a casino in Manchester for a flutter. Sitting at the blackjack table next to me was a rather care-worn lady (she looked 45 but was probably early 30s) who was shifting quite a bit of cash (tattoo to teeth ratio suggested she hadn't been driven in from Prestbury in the back of a Bentley).
She was having a bad run and eventually had to leave the table as she had no more money. We stayed on the table for around another 30 mins and then decided to go elsewhere (well a mate of mine had lost £600 on the roulette tables and was feeling a bit queasy). The careworn lady in question was sitting on the steps outside the casino in floods of tears. We asked her if she was alright a were treated to a torrent of abuse. She certainly didn't look like she was living the high-life.
Algarve said:
If anyone doesn't like them blowing their money in Ladbrokes then lets hear your plan to restrict where/how they spend it, that doesn't cost an arm and a leg to administer.
I've always thought that a 'good way' to deal with benefits payments is that you deal with it in a similar way to the milk vouchers.As in, you get a set amount in 'store credit', or a store card for supermarkets etc. but you can't spend it on fags & booze.
Housing benefit goes back to being paid direct to the LL, issue of public transport pass for travelling etc.
Surely in a largely cashless society that shouldn't be too hard to implement?
If i was ever in the unfortunate position to require the help of benefits, i wouldn't care whether it was money or a food voucher or whatever.
I also have no issues with the benefits system helping the elderly/disabled or people who find themselves falling on hard times, it's the lazy work-shy who abuse the system, which, in general society appears to be a rather large number of people.
I'm also fully aware there's probably a large flaw to my 'idea',
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