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I have a question.
Having had a minor fall out with a work colleague and turned to PH for comfort and solace, I found instead that the ego-centrism and sweeping generalisations that characterised most of what I read instead just irritated me more.
So I did what any rational person would do and wrote some sarcastic replies on a few threads in an attempt to prick a few pockets of pomposity and share the gift of self-awareness.
You're welcome, by the way.
Then I thought, rather than just ride on the back of other people's idiocy like some sort of parasitic tick, why don't I set myself up as the idiot?
I be the idiot.
This thread is the idiot, upon which all parasites are welcome to ride.
Oh...my question?
It's something like this - do we really think our own experience is all that? Why are there so many posts on here that take that one thing that happened to that poster yesterday as empirical evidence of a thing being a truth for everyone?
When we post this evident idiocy, is it because:
a) it just makes us feel better, we're not thinking about that deeply
b) we actually believe that that one thing that happened to us yesterday proves a thing is true for all of mankind
c) we know we are just a tiny speck in the vastness of creation and our one experiene is not representative of anything, but, godammit, it surely meant something
d) none of the above, what are you talking about
Having had a minor fall out with a work colleague and turned to PH for comfort and solace, I found instead that the ego-centrism and sweeping generalisations that characterised most of what I read instead just irritated me more.
So I did what any rational person would do and wrote some sarcastic replies on a few threads in an attempt to prick a few pockets of pomposity and share the gift of self-awareness.
You're welcome, by the way.
Then I thought, rather than just ride on the back of other people's idiocy like some sort of parasitic tick, why don't I set myself up as the idiot?
I be the idiot.
This thread is the idiot, upon which all parasites are welcome to ride.
Oh...my question?
It's something like this - do we really think our own experience is all that? Why are there so many posts on here that take that one thing that happened to that poster yesterday as empirical evidence of a thing being a truth for everyone?
When we post this evident idiocy, is it because:
a) it just makes us feel better, we're not thinking about that deeply
b) we actually believe that that one thing that happened to us yesterday proves a thing is true for all of mankind
c) we know we are just a tiny speck in the vastness of creation and our one experiene is not representative of anything, but, godammit, it surely meant something
d) none of the above, what are you talking about
Earlier this year, a poster asked a question and some advice about something I have a degree of professional experience on. I provided a reply with the advice he was after and a few helpful links. In essence, one of the the things this forum can at times be brilliant for.
Yet, despite the benign nature of my reply, the context clearly didn't fit the agenda of several others that sparked off the most ludicrous tirade of argument I've ever witnessed. At first, it was confusing but ended up being funny - but for the wrong reasons. I say 'argument'. Argument suggests the robust discussion of opposing views but this was more playground in nature. This is a regular occurrence....
I've seen posts written by Dentists and Doctors in Health completely laid into by welders and IT bods and the advice of Legal professionals criticised by factory workers.
For some very strange reason, 'experts' are today viewed with ambivalent derision throughout all of society and that includes the hallowed halls of Pistonheads. I'm really not sure why that is but is a dangerous situation and possibly a reason why the country is in the state it is currently in.
Yet, despite the benign nature of my reply, the context clearly didn't fit the agenda of several others that sparked off the most ludicrous tirade of argument I've ever witnessed. At first, it was confusing but ended up being funny - but for the wrong reasons. I say 'argument'. Argument suggests the robust discussion of opposing views but this was more playground in nature. This is a regular occurrence....
I've seen posts written by Dentists and Doctors in Health completely laid into by welders and IT bods and the advice of Legal professionals criticised by factory workers.
For some very strange reason, 'experts' are today viewed with ambivalent derision throughout all of society and that includes the hallowed halls of Pistonheads. I'm really not sure why that is but is a dangerous situation and possibly a reason why the country is in the state it is currently in.
To fully answer your pertinent questions first you must look deeper into yourself for a prolonged period of time, this is called self perspective referencing, once you have achieved a sufficient level of self perspective reference you may wish to study others and their interaction with the people around them, you may come to notice some traits which appear to have become prevalent in today's society, namely self absorption, self promotion above all others, self indulgence, the inability to perform the most basic of tasks without a mobile phone in your hand, spacial awareness being non-existent, the inability to park in a designated bay "because too important", the inability to use lanes on a round about, needing to have the latest tech and gadgets because you can't possibly not have it, living your entire life on social media and then feeling inadequate when people openly ridicule you, and finally the acceptance that the truth is, nobody likes you, you smell funny and your mum dresses you strange!!! 
It's the My-Word-Is-Law posters I find strange.
Some years ago I started a thread about disused filing stations. It was never going to set the world alight but I guessed there would be a few PHers who had also found them interesting or picturesque. One of the first respondents came in with, "I don't find it interesting tbh."
So? Why did he think anyone would be interested in his lack of interest? And to find it sufficiently interesting to be persuaded the thread was going nowhere and to abandon ship?
………..
Join me in negativity - it's the future.
No, f
k off. Join me in positivity. It's great.
There's no point.
………..
Because the associations are so random on internet forums you don't have time to initially assess who you are dealing with as you would in conversation. So when you chime in with your two penn'orth the context is fresh and the perspective unknown. Positive personalities keen to spread optimism are bewildered to meet negative personalities sure that pessimism is key.
Anyway, the weather is ste here so it will be an absolutely brilliant day to stay indoors and sort some stuff out. Write letters, make phone calls, send emails; put the world to rights. Marvellous.
Some years ago I started a thread about disused filing stations. It was never going to set the world alight but I guessed there would be a few PHers who had also found them interesting or picturesque. One of the first respondents came in with, "I don't find it interesting tbh."
So? Why did he think anyone would be interested in his lack of interest? And to find it sufficiently interesting to be persuaded the thread was going nowhere and to abandon ship?
………..
Join me in negativity - it's the future.
No, f
k off. Join me in positivity. It's great. There's no point.
………..
Because the associations are so random on internet forums you don't have time to initially assess who you are dealing with as you would in conversation. So when you chime in with your two penn'orth the context is fresh and the perspective unknown. Positive personalities keen to spread optimism are bewildered to meet negative personalities sure that pessimism is key.
Anyway, the weather is s
te here so it will be an absolutely brilliant day to stay indoors and sort some stuff out. Write letters, make phone calls, send emails; put the world to rights. Marvellous.
StevieBee said:
Earlier this year, a poster asked a question and some advice about something I have a degree of professional experience on. I provided a reply with the advice he was after and a few helpful links. In essence, one of the the things this forum can at times be brilliant for.
Yet, despite the benign nature of my reply, the context clearly didn't fit the agenda of several others that sparked off the most ludicrous tirade of argument I've ever witnessed. At first, it was confusing but ended up being funny - but for the wrong reasons. I say 'argument'. Argument suggests the robust discussion of opposing views but this was more playground in nature. This is a regular occurrence....
I've seen posts written by Dentists and Doctors in Health completely laid into by welders and IT bods and the advice of Legal professionals criticised by factory workers.
For some very strange reason, 'experts' are today viewed with ambivalent derision throughout all of society and that includes the hallowed halls of Pistonheads. I'm really not sure why that is but is a dangerous situation and possibly a reason why the country is in the state it is currently in.
It is because of this:-Yet, despite the benign nature of my reply, the context clearly didn't fit the agenda of several others that sparked off the most ludicrous tirade of argument I've ever witnessed. At first, it was confusing but ended up being funny - but for the wrong reasons. I say 'argument'. Argument suggests the robust discussion of opposing views but this was more playground in nature. This is a regular occurrence....
I've seen posts written by Dentists and Doctors in Health completely laid into by welders and IT bods and the advice of Legal professionals criticised by factory workers.
For some very strange reason, 'experts' are today viewed with ambivalent derision throughout all of society and that includes the hallowed halls of Pistonheads. I'm really not sure why that is but is a dangerous situation and possibly a reason why the country is in the state it is currently in.
Most people spend the majority of their lives in "Peak of Mr Stupid". Those that transition to the far right of the graph have learned not to bother wasting their time trying to educate those on the left - certainly on Pistonheads. It is pointless because - linking to the OPs question - unless it has happened to them then it is not true.
What makes it worse is that society, the economy and to a greater degree the workplace all now seems to operate largely in the "Peak of Mr Stupid" so there is little incentive to move to the right, so to speak.
When dumb w
kers can become millionaires by being influencers on Youtube why bother actually learning anything?I have spent most of my career helping technology start ups become successful - the Bio Medical field, not dating app type tech start ups.
Increasingly I am seeing young inexperienced company founders rise big investments for utterly ludicrous ideas, because neither they nor the investors realise just how hard it is going to be. Equally I see real experts, who are honest about the challenges ahead, fail to raise money because they present a realistic plan and highlight the risks. So increasingly you are better off living in ignorance it seems.
Having said all of that, it is a lot more fun pissing about on the left hand side of the graph.
TD
DickyC said:
It's the My-Word-Is-Law posters I find strange.
Some years ago I started a thread about disused filing stations. It was never going to set the world alight but I guessed there would be a few PHers who had also found them interesting or picturesque. One of the first respondents came in with, "I don't find it interesting tbh."
So? Why did he think anyone would be interested in his lack of interest? And to find it sufficiently interesting to be persuaded the thread was going nowhere and to abandon ship?
………..
Join me in negativity - it's the future.
No, fk off. Join me in positivity. It's great.
There's no point.
………..
Because the associations are so random on internet forums you don't have time to initially assess who you are dealing with as you would in conversation. So when you chime in with your two penn'orth the context is fresh and the perspective unknown. Positive personalities keen to spread optimism are bewildered to meet negative personalities sure that pessimism is key.
Anyway, the weather is ste here so it will be an absolutely brilliant day to stay indoors and sort some stuff out. Write letters, make phone calls, send emails; put the world to rights. Marvellous.
The Unbeam thread is on my watch list, it's a slow burner but a minor classic. A bit like Mortimer and Whitehouse go fishing Some years ago I started a thread about disused filing stations. It was never going to set the world alight but I guessed there would be a few PHers who had also found them interesting or picturesque. One of the first respondents came in with, "I don't find it interesting tbh."
So? Why did he think anyone would be interested in his lack of interest? And to find it sufficiently interesting to be persuaded the thread was going nowhere and to abandon ship?
………..
Join me in negativity - it's the future.
No, f
k off. Join me in positivity. It's great. There's no point.
………..
Because the associations are so random on internet forums you don't have time to initially assess who you are dealing with as you would in conversation. So when you chime in with your two penn'orth the context is fresh and the perspective unknown. Positive personalities keen to spread optimism are bewildered to meet negative personalities sure that pessimism is key.
Anyway, the weather is s
te here so it will be an absolutely brilliant day to stay indoors and sort some stuff out. Write letters, make phone calls, send emails; put the world to rights. Marvellous.
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