Marriage - or not?

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av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Ari said:
People (men and women) are either trustworthy and honest, or they're not.
Apart from all those who are sitting on the fence.

Shabs

1,866 posts

206 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Ari said:
davek_964 said:
Yes, I want to be with her - but that doesn't mean I necessarily want to get married. However, it seems my decision time is up.
Emotional blackmail - she sounds a catch! coffee
This, if your time is up, then move on. Never be blackmailed or forced into any life decisions you are not 100% happy with (unless poverty and regret are your idea of awesome)

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Lemming Train said:
What a load of old bks ! rofl

You can "declare" to her whatever you want but it doesn't mean st. All this "commitment" nonsense only lasts until the day she gets bored or tired of your irritating ways and/or starts receiving attention from someone else, then you're toast and she clears up with half of your wealth.

There's 2 types of marriage for men :

1. the marriage that they don't care for but are pressured into it by the OH.
2. the marriage that they instigate themselves because they are insecure wimps and have some deluded belief that getting married will 'secure' her as their own for their rest of their life, preventing her from leaving them or cheating. jester

42% divorce rate + a huge number of married couples living a lie, hating each other's guts but "we're only still together for the children" + all the OAPs that like to tell you they've been married for 50 years but the truth of the matter is that they can't stand the sight of each other wobble .
Interesting insight into the typical PH male psyche. Insecure, selfish and afraid of failure.


av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Or he's a realist.

And those advocating marriage are deluded.

Only on PH would someone claim staying single is insecure. rofl

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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av185 said:
Or he's a realist.

And those advocating marriage are deluded.

Only on PH would someone claim staying single is insecure. rofl
He said you get married either because you are a wimp or pressured into it.

Been very happily married for 28 years, not feeling very deluded about it.

Thales

619 posts

57 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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wormus said:
He said you get married either because you are a wimp or pressured into it.

Been very happily married for 28 years, not feeling very deluded about it.
The stats don't lie.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Thales said:
The stats don't lie.
As I say: Insecure, selfish and afraid of failure.

PMacanGTS

467 posts

71 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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StevieBee said:
Many marriages do end in divorce but the trick is to get married on the assumption that yours won't.
That’s probably the worst piece of advice I’ve read on PH, and that’s saying something.

Relationships often end. This should be your assumption going in. And clearly your partner has been through at least one marriage from the sounds of it. So, there’s a track record to consider. It sounds like you are both ‘mature’, so what are the motivations for marriage?

Pragmatism trumps idealism as you get older, as you’ve got less time to correct a mistake.

Thales

619 posts

57 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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wormus said:
As I say: Insecure, selfish and afraid of failure.
I'm not afraid of failure, I am however afraid of wasting time.

Digby

8,238 posts

246 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Been with my other half since 1990. I asked her in 92 if she was ever bothered about marriage, as I didn't care either way. She said she didn't care either way. Still not married. Probably why we are still together as she lets me do as I please and I let her and neither of us really care about the 'proper' way of doing things.

Cotty

39,540 posts

284 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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wormus said:
As I say: Insecure, selfish and afraid of failure.
How on earth is it selfish?

jshell

11,006 posts

205 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Digby said:
Been with my other half since 1990. I asked her in 92 if she was ever bothered about marriage, as I didn't care either way. She said she didn't care either way. Still not married. Probably why we are still together as she lets me do as I please and I let her and neither of us really care about the 'proper' way of doing things.
There's no '1 size fits all'.

irocfan

40,444 posts

190 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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jshell said:
There's no '1 size fits all'.
this ^^^

Targarama

14,635 posts

283 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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23rdian said:
Frank7 said:
Targarama said:
Wish my ex had asked me this....

Still going to cost me a fair few bob to get out, she even suggested paying her debts was normal marital expenditure and shouldn't be considered in Form E. Nice of her. Oh and please include all my pensions from before we met. Meanwhile she doesn't even chase the father of her daughter for maintenance (he was before my time). Snakes with t1ts.
If that’s really how you feel about women, I suggest that you
Google “Monasteries, and how to learn to love them”
You don't need to though - that's the point. Enjoy their company while it's good. Just act defensively with regards to legal contracts.
Not really, I love women and wish the ex well to be honest, just wish she hadn't gone feral on the money front. Just being blokey for a moment smile

Bobberoo99

38,623 posts

98 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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irocfan said:
jshell said:
There's no '1 size fits all'.
this ^^^
Correct.
Fascinating to see so many arguing so fervently against marriage and when someone posts advocating it they are told they are wrong, if you find a person(PC) who lets you be you, supports and understands you and shares your views, maybe interests, and morals and you return all that to them, then there is no reason why your marriage would fail, unless one of you changes, nothing can stop that from happening, some people just change, you either deal with it and work through it or you move on, that's life.

ChevyChase77

1,079 posts

58 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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I know quite a lot of women who have been with their partners for a long time, have kids, get hitched, get bored and cheat. Obviously men do it as well.

I think it comes down to a bit of proving 'you've still got it'.

Robertj21a

16,477 posts

105 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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As others have said, there's no one size fits all. Even in the happiest of marriages, one or other can stray and the essential trust is then gone. In many cases it's simply when it becomes too much of a standard routine and one party feels that the grass must be greener elsewhere.
These days, it's so much easier for the woman to live an independent life with her own job, lifestyle, property etc. It used to be virtually impossible for most wives to believe that that could ever be possible.

CharlieH89

9,079 posts

165 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Normally you will know by what kind of person your other half is.

If she is batstmental with a track record of being in a lot of relationships then I’d hold back, but if you’ve been with her for 5-10 years then surely you know eachother that much that marriage just seems second nature?

What is weird is people in Hollywood getting married after 6 months or so. Stupid.

IJWS15

1,848 posts

85 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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bristolracer said:
^This

Your soul mate, your lover,your confidant, the person who makes you happy,her warmth and her comfort,the woman you would take a bullet for, the woman you would nurse to the end

or

Your money?

Maybe you should see how keen she is when you show her this thread?
As above

With the views expressed by so many on this thread I can see why the divorce rate is so high.

Only you know if she is the right one, if you are not sure then she isn't the one

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

72 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Bobberoo99 said:
irocfan said:
jshell said:
There's no '1 size fits all'.
this ^^^
Correct.
Fascinating to see so many arguing so fervently against marriage and when someone posts advocating it they are told they are wrong, if you find a person(PC) who lets you be you, supports and understands you and shares your views, maybe interests, and morals and you return all that to them, then there is no reason why your marriage would fail, unless one of you changes, nothing can stop that from happening, some people just change, you either deal with it and work through it or you move on, that's life.
wobble

What's the point in getting married then if you can just "move on" when you get bored or it all gets a bit too hard work?

vows said:
I, __, take you, __, to be my lawfully wedded (husband/wife), to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part.
idea