Marriage - or not?

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designforlife

3,734 posts

164 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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I have naff all assets so it didn't really cross my mind before I got married to be honest... the only asset we are likely to eventually have as a couple will be property, and that's not happening any time soon!


irocfan

40,578 posts

191 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Shnozz said:
Muzzer79 said:
If you're purely concerned about financial assets and potentially losing them, suggest a pre-nup?

Diplomatically of course.....
I often wonder how one can ever have a diplomatic conversation about entering a pre-nup. "I trust you with all my heart and want to be with you forever, except I harbour some doubts and we might not be".

Has anyone got any tales of how they approached the subject and it didn't get met with an adverse reaction? Genuinely interested.
We discussed a pre-nup but after some advice (of the legal type) decided not to bother ('not worth the paper it's written on'). I would say at this point though I was in my late(ish) 40's when I met the Mrs and (finally!) emotionally stable - I realised that this was something people talk about so let's be practical.

WRT getting married - absolutely love it, couldn't be happier.



Robertj21a said:
....Far too many downsides for the guys when, after a few years, the female decides she wants someone different...
I'd have to say that it does seem (anecdotally) that it's more the men who seem to have a desire for "something different"

Buster73

5,070 posts

154 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Gameface said:
Get a dog.
They bark back at you as well...

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Cheaper and more loyal.

toon10

6,203 posts

158 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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GOATever said:
It’s not for me, I’ve never really considered it. Some people like that sort of thing. Fair enough.
Me too. I'm 45 with 2 kids. Never been married and never felt the desire to. It's an expensive thing to do and no matter how in love you are, circumstances and people can change over time. When the relationship is tested, I like to know that she is as committed to fixing things as I am. Being married can give a woman the excuse/extra reason to call it a day and get a divorce. We had a fight, OK I'll get a divorce and take half of his wealth with me.

I've been more than happy with Ms Toon for 9 years now but who knows, in another 9 years she might reach the stage where seeing me breathe indues a rage only murder or leaving me will solve. If that happens I'd rather we just part than have a messy divorce!

It's a personal choice and only you know if it's for you. There are lots of happily married people out there. There's also lots of happy divorce lawyers out there driving Porsches, supping Champaign off strippers backsides. You could end up funding their lifestyle biggrin

Mr E

21,635 posts

260 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Mazda3_Nuts said:
Been with my partner for 12+ years now and have a mortgage and a 6 month old together and I still don't want to get married. Just not for me.
15 ish years. 7 year old. House etc.

Not married. Will get married when I get a tax break out of it.

TGTiff

411 posts

185 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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For the love of God and all things Holy don't do it!

Robbo 27

3,654 posts

100 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Its a NO from me, I would also keep finances very seperate and private

TwigtheWonderkid

43,436 posts

151 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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toon10 said:
Never been married and never felt the desire to. It's an expensive thing to do
No it's not, it's dirt cheap. I think you are confusing getting married with having a wedding. You can do the former without the latter.

If you are in a long term relationship and not married, you may have to get legal advice re avoiding IHT. Also, you'll lose out on any govt widows benefits, and possibly ongoing pension benefits from your deceased partners pension. All that stuff can be expensive.

If your partner is involved in a serious accident and is in a coma or something, you might find yourself unable to even visit, if their legal next of kin doesn't like you.



SeeFive

8,280 posts

234 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Robbo 27 said:
Its a NO from me, I would also keep finances very seperate and private
Makes little difference when you have to fill out a form E. Financial disclosure is required for the court to ensure “fair” division of assets. Feel free to hide stuff from the course of course... not for me.

I have just got in the door from the latest episode in court following a separation 5 and a half years ago and divorce back in 2017. Clean break my arse, cost me another 13,000 this afternoon.

If you are going to marry, make sure it isn’t a leech like I had.

acme

2,972 posts

199 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Perhaps the most obvious comment, but surely it's one of perspective. If you're in your 20's with little time or effort invested in what you have then who'd think twice, I certainly wouldn't have. If you're in your 40's with 20+ years of work and slog behind you, plus experience of how even the best relationships can go sour then your view will likely be very different.

Dixy

2,930 posts

206 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Why is it so important to her.

Sten.

2,246 posts

135 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Entering a contract with a ~40% chance of failure and the other party walking away with at least half of your savings and everything you own? Hell yeah, sounds good.

I'm very happily married but we got together when we were skint students and these days she earns a lot more than me so I've little to lose. If I was single with property and a few quid in the bank I don't think I'd be so keen on getting married.

A relative of mine has just finally settled a very messy divorce, his second one. He gets married again next year. smash

Edited by Sten. on Tuesday 10th December 07:54

bloomen

6,935 posts

160 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Sten. said:
Entering a contract with a ~40% chance of failure and the other party walking away with at least half of your savings and everything you own? Hell yeah, sounds good.
It's one of many things that if it were invented now you'd be laughed at followed by a tarring and feathering. Since it's been around forever it's accepted as the norm. When you apply actual logic, there ain't much.

av185

18,521 posts

128 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Because women like moving the goalposts, change for what they think.is the better, a marriage certificate, commitment and are basically nest builders. Oh and most like an expensive rip off pageant style wedding too btw.

Whereas blokes are normally in the 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' camp and would happily stay single but perhaps live together but because the woman in their life wears the trousers they submit and go along with a wedding reluctantly.

Invariably a bad move.

sc0tt

18,054 posts

202 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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It’s a yes from me.

Good wedding, lovely honeymoon and a beautiful wife.

Each to their own of course.

Narcisus

8,081 posts

281 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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24 years for me and never regretted a second.

GliderRider

2,123 posts

82 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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sc0tt said:
It’s a yes from me.

Good wedding, lovely honeymoon and a beautiful wife.

Each to their own of course.
Is that over one, two or three marriages? wink

davek_964

Original Poster:

8,840 posts

176 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Dixy said:
Why is it so important to her.
Because it means commitment. Because it means that she is not just another in a string of ex's that went nowhere. Because it means that I am declaring that she is the person I want to spend the rest of my life with, and that she is "off limits".

Shnozz

27,508 posts

272 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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And what do you think about the idea? Neutral? For? Against?