Yesterday, I saw colour for the first time...

Yesterday, I saw colour for the first time...

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WJNB

2,637 posts

162 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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GetCarter said:
TheGroover said:
The Moose said:
GetCarter said:
Fantastic result!

Enjoy.

Thankfully the two images look very different to me (I'm a photographer and if they hadn't been I would be in trouble).
Can you explain how they are very different? They look identical to me!
Speaking for myself pretty much everything top Vs bottom are different colours. I took the test above and according to it have normal colour vision.
E.g. Top sky is blue, bottom sky is purple
Top trees on the left are Reddy brown, bottom are dark green
Top house rooves are red, bottom are green
Field to the right of the road under the houses is green with red patches on the top but yellow with grey patches bottom.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
What he Said.
Pictures looked similar to me & I have had some degree of colour blindness all my life.
Having read the detail of how the pictures differentiate I'm more colour blind than I realised.
The joke is that I spent 22 years in the fine furnishing fabric business & manged to hide my blindness or was just lucky nobody asked me to get a bolt of purple fabric only for me to turn up with blue!!!

JustALooseScrew

1,154 posts

68 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Delighted to read about this. All I got for xmas was a dose of flu and told to stay at home alone and away from family.

I wonder about my sight as I don't see massive differences between those two pictures.

I do know that all those Hi Viz coats and vests that everyone tell me look yellow actually look really green to me, I've given up mentioning it these days.

What a wonderful gift and I'm warmed that it's made such a difference to you life. thumbup


scottydoesntknow

860 posts

58 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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JustALooseScrew said:
I wonder about my sight as I don't see massive differences between those two pictures.
Take the test smile

https://enchroma.com/pages/color-blindness-test#te...

JustALooseScrew

1,154 posts

68 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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myvision said:
My brother is colour blind and has a pair of the glasses and loves them.
Back in the 90's I gave him some acid and that had the same effect he could see all the colours.
I didn't want to say it when I first read this thread but a handful of shrooms with those specs might work wonders.

It's over 30 years since I did anything like that, but the memories of wandering around Manchester in and out of art galleries are as vivid now as they were then. boxedin



JustALooseScrew

1,154 posts

68 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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scottydoesntknow said:
JustALooseScrew said:
I wonder about my sight as I don't see massive differences between those two pictures.
Take the test smile

https://enchroma.com/pages/color-blindness-test#te...
Mild Deutan thumbup

(Could be the lap top screen? - I remember doing the test with printed cards in A-Level Biology and being 100%).

ETA:
100% on the phone - but some were very vague.


Edited by JustALooseScrew on Thursday 26th December 17:58

The Moose

22,873 posts

210 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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Try this one...
https://pilestonecolorblindexperts.com/pages/colou...
I just did this and got 1/13...then my wife got 13/13. I can not wait!

Edited by The Moose on Friday 27th December 00:58

Cold

15,261 posts

91 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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scottydoesntknow said:
The Moose said:




Oh. Knew it was bad, didn't know it was - bad. laugh

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

73 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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The Moose said:
Try this one...
https://pilestonecolorblindexperts.com/pages/colou...
I just did this and got 1/13...then my wife got 13/13. I can not wait!

Edited by The Moose on Friday 27th December 00:58
1/13 ! Noob! laugh 6/13 here! spin

Pretty much all of those were a struggle to a greater or lesser extent with the exception of card 4. I had to really concentrate to get the other 5 right and the remaining 7 I can't see st! wobble

craig_m67

949 posts

189 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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I only got 2/13... and one of those I guessed smile

There’s a marked difference between the price of the glasses between those websites.
Do they really work that well?


Actually, if I understand (comprehend) how they work (5mins googling)... they just reduce/filter other colours to balance for my eyes... is there an app that can do that (balance) the colours on my TV/iPad to match my eyes (ie. pump up some colours and reduce the others)

Maybe that’s no how it works

(Edit)... ah, yes... loads of apps

Edited by craig_m67 on Friday 27th December 01:59

tribbles

3,980 posts

223 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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I got everything right on those tests, but I have recently gained a lot of interest, and a bit of knowledge on colourblindness due to writing a user interface at work that needed to work with everyone.

As this is our department's first interface designed in this way, I'll be doing a presentation on the interface, and some other things that our Human Factors team recommended.

I've downloaded an app for my phone that shows the world as the various different impairments would see it, and it is fascinating pointing it at things around the house and on TV to see if others have also considered it.

So this thread has really piqued my interest - even though it's nearly 2am, and I am fascinated that a pair of glasses were able to allow you to see colours more clearly. And purple is my favourite colour - with one of my cars painted when I saw a PH thread along the lines of "where have all the purple cars gone?".

OssAndy

255 posts

196 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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I'm colourblind too, the two pictures in the op are the same to me. I've mixed thoughts about the glasses since I first heard about them years ago.

It's not like you could permanently wear them (tints etc) so although it must be amazing to finally 'see' the colours for the first time, what then? Is that taken away as soon as the glasses are off and now you realise what you're missing out on all the time?

I'd be interested in hearing feedback after a few weeks or months to see if it feels worse afterwards knowing what you're missing out on sometimes, instead of the ignorant bliss we're living in before trying the glasses.

wiliferus

4,065 posts

199 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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I’ve looked into these glasses (excuse the pun) but unfortunately they won’t work for me.
I’ve got strong deutan colour blindness (red/green) which I think these glasses help with. But I also have strong tritanope colour blindness which effects the blue/purple spectrum.
The manufacturers of theses glasses don’t even recognise tritanope as a condition as their glasses don’t deal with it. I’d guess these glasses would just confuse my eyes more. Apparently it’s very rare to have more than one type of colour blindness... makes me a bit speshal nuts

I’ll just carry on living in my crazy colour blind world.

NWTony

2,851 posts

229 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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Sway said:
I'm 37, and have strong protanopia colour blindness. I assume these pictures are different, but they're identical to me:



It sucks - I love art and photography, constant pain at work (rag statuses mean little to me!), enjoy the great outdoors, etc.

Few years ago they released glasses that could "correct" colourblindness. However, bloody expensive and with a lower than 10% chance of helping me.

This year, there's been lenses made for people like me. Slightly limited in they have a fairly strong tint, so best for outdoors or bright screens.

My Mrs bought me a pair for Christmas. I won't post the vid of my manly tears, but it was something like this:

https://youtu.be/_X0BITqcnUI

It's incredible. The colours you normal lot experience just looking around. Lucky blighters.

Bit too intense right now for extended wearing (imagine living in a muted light cave for 37 years, then stepping into sunlight...) - headache last night. So worth it though, and with more use that should diminish.

£100 from Amazon. Made by a firm called Pilestone.

They've genuinely changed my life - it's witchcraft!

Anyone else tried them?
Wow, must have come as real bolt from the purple.

Sway

Original Poster:

26,345 posts

195 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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OssAndy said:
I'm colourblind too, the two pictures in the op are the same to me. I've mixed thoughts about the glasses since I first heard about them years ago.

It's not like you could permanently wear them (tints etc) so although it must be amazing to finally 'see' the colours for the first time, what then? Is that taken away as soon as the glasses are off and now you realise what you're missing out on all the time?

I'd be interested in hearing feedback after a few weeks or months to see if it feels worse afterwards knowing what you're missing out on sometimes, instead of the ignorant bliss we're living in before trying the glasses.
Andy, some good points.

When wearing them, the world is definitely much more vibrant and saturated with colour. However, it hasn't been depressing taking them off.

One of the reviews I watched before we ordered them, was of a strong protan, who'd then had them for six months. By that point, when doing the enchroma test without the glasses, he was classed as a mild protan - as the training for his brain lasts beyond the wearing of the glasses.

Don't know about you, but that makes sense - I make far fewer mistakes (or am far more aware where I could be wrong) than as a kid. I've adapted somewhat over time.

I am quite a visual person, and my colour blindness is regularly annoying - so they'll be of use for the long term. I'll try to update the thread with how much I wear them outside "special" purposes. I think though the tint wouldn't be an issue outside the depths of winter.

stevesingo

4,859 posts

223 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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tribbles said:
I got everything right on those tests, but I have recently gained a lot of interest, and a bit of knowledge on colourblindness due to writing a user interface at work that needed to work with everyone.

As this is our department's first interface designed in this way, I'll be doing a presentation on the interface, and some other things that our Human Factors team recommended.

I've downloaded an app for my phone that shows the world as the various different impairments would see it, and it is fascinating pointing it at things around the house and on TV to see if others have also considered it.

So this thread has really piqued my interest - even though it's nearly 2am, and I am fascinated that a pair of glasses were able to allow you to see colours more clearly. And purple is my favourite colour - with one of my cars painted when I saw a PH thread along the lines of "where have all the purple cars gone?".
That's great. I've known I'm colour blind since primary school. You can kind of get around it to a certain extent, but it really annoys me when information is presented in a manner which makes understanding the info for the colorblind impossible. Especially annoying as it is so common.

tribbles

3,980 posts

223 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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wiliferus said:
I’ve looked into these glasses (excuse the pun) but unfortunately they won’t work for me.
I’ve got strong deutan colour blindness (red/green) which I think these glasses help with. But I also have strong tritanope colour blindness which effects the blue/purple spectrum.
The manufacturers of theses glasses don’t even recognise tritanope as a condition as their glasses don’t deal with it. I’d guess these glasses would just confuse my eyes more. Apparently it’s very rare to have more than one type of colour blindness... makes me a bit speshal nuts

I’ll just carry on living in my crazy colour blind world.
I think they do - although only one style for tritanope:

From their shop: "This lens is suitable for Tritanomaly or Tritanopia that affects blues and yellows."

https://pilestonecolorblindexperts.com/products/pi...

And in the product description: "Correcting for blue-yellow and red-green colour blindness, however, can make many more colours become apparent."

Little bit more expensive than some of the other lenses though...

Sway

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26,345 posts

195 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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stevesingo said:
That's great. I've known I'm colour blind since primary school. You can kind of get around it to a certain extent, but it really annoys me when information is presented in a manner which makes understanding the info for the colorblind impossible. Especially annoying as it is so common.
Oh yes...

Quite a while ago, I was working as an internal consultant for one of the big banks - I'd just moved across from proper hairy arsed manufacturing, and it was a bit of a culture shock.

These were the days of PowerPoint presentations running to hundreds of slides - but also the days were political correctness was really emerging. One 'insult' and you could be out on your ear.

I'd headed a team for four months, and was presented the output with someone reasonably well known to the public. One step down from God, as far as I was concerned. First time I'd met him.

Get 30s into the slide deck, when he stops me.

"if you can't even get our colour right, and you've plastered xxxxx all over your slides, why the fk should I pay attention to anything you've got to say?"

Caught me off guard, and I was young and fiesty.

"I'm colourblind. It's a physical impossibility for me to get it perfect. I'd normally ask for help but it was 4:30am I was polishing this up, and couldn't. I'm terribly sorry."

"I give zero fks - stop wasting my time."

"Excuse me, could you just clarify that you want me to stop, and bin four months work by my team, purely because you're unwilling to accept or adapt for my DISABILITY regarding something as relatively insignificant as what colour text boxes are filled in a slide?"

Chap went white as a sheet (I could see that!).

My boss left it for perhaps five seconds, before smoothly cutting in "Sway, you've made your point, and X is I'm sure apologetic for not understanding the situation - shall we all just move on and start again?"

I grinned. Finished the presentation, and my team got promoted by the end of the week...

98elise

26,720 posts

162 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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TheGroover said:
The Moose said:
GetCarter said:
Fantastic result!

Enjoy.

Thankfully the two images look very different to me (I'm a photographer and if they hadn't been I would be in trouble).
Can you explain how they are very different? They look identical to me!
Speaking for myself pretty much everything top Vs bottom are different colours. I took the test above and according to it have normal colour vision.
E.g. Top sky is blue, bottom sky is purple
Top trees on the left are Reddy brown, bottom are dark green
Top house rooves are red, bottom are green
Field to the right of the road under the houses is green with red patches on the top but yellow with grey patches bottom.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
I'm not colour blind at all, and that's what I see.

I've watched clips on YouTube before of these glasses and the result is amazing. Seeing the different colours on trees and flowers seems to be a big one, as is seeing purple for the first time.

bristolracer

5,548 posts

150 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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stevesingo said:
That's great. I've known I'm colour blind since primary school. You can kind of get around it to a certain extent, but it really annoys me when information is presented in a manner which makes understanding the info for the colorblind impossible. Especially annoying as it is so common.
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8bit

4,883 posts

156 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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sparkyhx said:
happy for you

Although not in the same league, my daughter was having issues reading, over the years she has worn glasses, not worn them, a number of times. My wife read something as part of her research on Autism and related co-morbid conditions and some features clicked. So we went for an eye test and the optician said she didnt need glasses, but the issues she reported indicated 'visual distrubance' so he tested her. Turns out she had reached 17 years old with Irlen Syndrome. Some tinted lenses later and her reading vision improvements were a revelation to her.

He is now our permanent optician even though he is seriously inconvenient. He pointed out that being long sighted I should be tested for 'closed angle Glaucoma' as long sighted people are at increased risk of it.

This has never been mentioned in my 55 years on the planet, so I mentioned it to my GP, went to see someone at the hospital who promptly said oh yes, we need to sort that out and did Laser surgery almost immediately. Turns out closed angle is VERY dangerous and you can lose your sight in hrs. I never knew your eyballs have built in drain holes that let the fluid in your eyes drain out like a pressure release valve.
I was diagnose with narrow-angle glaucoma early this year and had laser treatment for it in the summer. My symptoms were that I'd occasionally get fairly severe pain in the right eye along with this weird sort of halo effect around point light sources (e.g. downlights, car headlights etc.), usually at night. At first it was usually only happening when out on the sauce so I put it down to too much of that but it became more frequent and not coupled with alcohol consumption. The laser treatment was no fun at all (I'm not squeamish about anything really except eyes) but it was so worth it.

I also have some sort of colour perception deficiency, the two images in the picture on page 1 look mostly the same to me but one has a slghtly purple sky and the other is blue, I'll look into these. I wear corrective glasses permanently though so may be a non-starter unless these can be done on prescription.