For anyone that has mail or parcels delivered.

For anyone that has mail or parcels delivered.

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lampchair

4,362 posts

186 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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All looks to be union or RM chat forum stuff, which will obviously be biased.

Which is a shame.

Hopefully RM will up their parcel game, but it’s not looking good. Time will tell.


Captain Raymond Holt

12,230 posts

194 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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Gromm said:
As long as parcels are not left on the porch I don’t care.
Sounds more like left in a hub a couple of towns over hehe

egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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lampchair said:
All looks to be union or RM chat forum stuff, which will obviously be biased.

Which is a shame.

Hopefully RM will up their parcel game, but it’s not looking good. Time will tell.
I think they will up there parcel game but only once they've got rid of the uso.

If any other parcel company delivered to every address daily then they'd no longer be able to have the timed delivery slots like they do presently.

CanAm

9,206 posts

272 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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I know Yodel get some bad press on here, but I ordered a battery from Tayna at 3.30 the other Friday afternoon, and it was delivered by Yodel at 10.30 the next morning.

The last time I ordered one it was in the hands of another well-known parcels company who sent me a text saying "Tried to deliver at 11.50AM, Could not gain access to your property." Lying toe-rags; I was chatting on the phone looking out of the window the whole time. There were two empty parking spaces outside and nobody came near the house

CoolHands

18,633 posts

195 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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What happened to TNT post? They were delivering the last mile or something a couple of years ago round here. All disappeared now. Do remember it was all over the news? 2014 ish


CoolHands

18,633 posts

195 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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Looks like it turned into whistl then went down the drain

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32686828

Royal Mail lives on!

egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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CoolHands said:
What happened to TNT post? They were delivering the last mile or something a couple of years ago round here. All disappeared now. Do remember it was all over the news? 2014 ish

It wasn't profitable.

Picking up and processing post is easy and profitable delivering it is the expensive bit due to manpower costs.

miniman

24,956 posts

262 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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It's interesting working on e-commerce platforms that over the last few years, there has been a notable pivot in demand away from "deliver to my home next day" being the priority to "collect from a location of my choice same day or next day". Whether or not the item is delivered to that collection location, or is already stored there, is neither here nor there.

Amazon have their parcel lockers and others have ability to deliver to local convenience stores, Argos, Next and other bricks & mortar locations. Some (e.g. Screwfix) have become exceptionally adept at maintaining stock at multiple locations. These things not only offer consumer convenience but will also drive down their fulfilment costs.

RM, on the other hand, have the option to deliver to your local post office, but only a certain number of items (as many of them don't have space to keep large / multiple items), their in-flight delivery change options are poor (e.g. whether the postman will leave safe seems to depend entirely on the extent to which the postman will bend the rules) and they don't deliver on Sunday, which is now becoming one of the most critical delivery days. I'm lucky enough to live somewhere where it is feasible to leave items safe, but many don't and this makes Sunday increasingly important.

Accuracy of delivery timeslot is king in my view, regardless of where that delivery is made to.

egomeister

6,700 posts

263 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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miniman said:
It's interesting working on e-commerce platforms that over the last few years, there has been a notable pivot in demand away from "deliver to my home next day" being the priority to "collect from a location of my choice same day or next day". Whether or not the item is delivered to that collection location, or is already stored there, is neither here nor there.

Amazon have their parcel lockers and others have ability to deliver to local convenience stores, Argos, Next and other bricks & mortar locations. Some (e.g. Screwfix) have become exceptionally adept at maintaining stock at multiple locations. These things not only offer consumer convenience but will also drive down their fulfilment costs.

RM, on the other hand, have the option to deliver to your local post office, but only a certain number of items (as many of them don't have space to keep large / multiple items), their in-flight delivery change options are poor (e.g. whether the postman will leave safe seems to depend entirely on the extent to which the postman will bend the rules) and they don't deliver on Sunday, which is now becoming one of the most critical delivery days. I'm lucky enough to live somewhere where it is feasible to leave items safe, but many don't and this makes Sunday increasingly important.

Accuracy of delivery timeslot is king in my view, regardless of where that delivery is made to.
I'd agree with a lot of this. I'm away from home a lot, so Amazon lockers, or a well sorted click and collect service like Next make up the majority of my deliveries now.

From a consumer perspective, the proposal in the sounds like a step backwards to me. I've left cheap items that i've missed delivery on at the depot to be returned before, as it's cheaper (in fuel/time) to reorder than collect. 40 mile round trips don't solve this, lockers/collect in store does.

InitialDave

11,901 posts

119 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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miniman said:
Accuracy of delivery timeslot is king in my view, regardless of where that delivery is made to.
Very much so.

Delivery scheduled 6pm-10pm? Great, I'll be home for that.

Oh, you delivered it at 1:30pm and left it outside. Woo. Thanks a bunch.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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Receiving parcels and ‘signed for’ packages is a constant pain in the backside for most people I would assume.

I am truly surprised that parcel lockers at peoples homes haven’t become commonplace. That would solve countless wasted miles and hours by both delivery drivers/postmen and the public.

Surely a couple of lockers attached to the side of your house would solve the issue. Unlocked, and when a parcel is deposited the delivery person clicks it shut and it cannot be opened again without your key.

Do such things exist?

A500leroy

Original Poster:

5,126 posts

118 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
Receiving parcels and ‘signed for’ packages is a constant pain in the backside for most people I would assume.

I am truly surprised that parcel lockers at peoples homes haven’t become commonplace. That would solve countless wasted miles and hours by both delivery drivers/postmen and the public.

Surely a couple of lockers attached to the side of your house would solve the issue. Unlocked, and when a parcel is deposited the delivery person clicks it shut and it cannot be opened again without your key.

Do such things exist?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Smart-Parcel-Box-Deliveries-Weatherproof/dp/B01MXVMTPU/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

please buy one

Edited by A500leroy on Sunday 16th February 16:42

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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A500leroy said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Receiving parcels and ‘signed for’ packages is a constant pain in the backside for most people I would assume.

I am truly surprised that parcel lockers at peoples homes haven’t become commonplace. That would solve countless wasted miles and hours by both delivery drivers/postmen and the public.

Surely a couple of lockers attached to the side of your house would solve the issue. Unlocked, and when a parcel is deposited the delivery person clicks it shut and it cannot be opened again without your key.

Do such things exist?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Smart-Parcel-Box-Deliveries-Weatherproof/dp/B01MXVMTPU/ref=asc_df_B01MXVMTPU/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309775932390&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1487290251864624532&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006674&hvtargid=pla-347528003747&psc=1

please buy one
That has got to be worth £120 of anyones money.

miniman

24,956 posts

262 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
A500leroy said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Receiving parcels and ‘signed for’ packages is a constant pain in the backside for most people I would assume.

I am truly surprised that parcel lockers at peoples homes haven’t become commonplace. That would solve countless wasted miles and hours by both delivery drivers/postmen and the public.

Surely a couple of lockers attached to the side of your house would solve the issue. Unlocked, and when a parcel is deposited the delivery person clicks it shut and it cannot be opened again without your key.

Do such things exist?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Smart-Parcel-Box-Deliveries-Weatherproof/dp/B01MXVMTPU/ref=asc_df_B01MXVMTPU/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309775932390&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1487290251864624532&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006674&hvtargid=pla-347528003747&psc=1

please buy one
That has got to be worth £120 of anyones money.
I imagine a lot of people would worry that it would be a magnet for thieves. The beauty of Amazon Lockers is that there’s no liability on you until you enter the access code and open the door.

A500leroy

Original Poster:

5,126 posts

118 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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miniman said:
Lord Marylebone said:
A500leroy said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Receiving parcels and ‘signed for’ packages is a constant pain in the backside for most people I would assume.

I am truly surprised that parcel lockers at peoples homes haven’t become commonplace. That would solve countless wasted miles and hours by both delivery drivers/postmen and the public.

Surely a couple of lockers attached to the side of your house would solve the issue. Unlocked, and when a parcel is deposited the delivery person clicks it shut and it cannot be opened again without your key.

Do such things exist?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Smart-Parcel-Box-Deliveries-Weatherproof/dp/B01MXVMTPU/ref=asc_df_B01MXVMTPU/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309775932390&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1487290251864624532&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006674&hvtargid=pla-347528003747&psc=1

please buy one
That has got to be worth £120 of anyones money.
I imagine a lot of people would worry that it would be a magnet for thieves. The beauty of Amazon Lockers is that there’s no liability on you until you enter the access code and open the door. [/quot p ut it in a discreet location (near the door) if possible

egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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The problem with lockers is it would need less staff delivering and what workforce/union is going to willingly go down that route ?

Timed deliveries I think we could do a lot more with though.

Until I get my special delivery items I don't know what order I'm going to deliver in or if I'm going to have to break off at 1245 then go back later and deliver the bit I've left , but I think 9-12 , 12-3 maybe 3-6 delivery slots would be workable.

Even our union are saying we need to be delivering between 7-7 so looks like there looking at various shifts covering different delivery slots .

Matt_E_Mulsion

1,693 posts

65 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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Lord Marylebone said:
Surely a couple of lockers attached to the side of your house would solve the issue. Unlocked, and when a parcel is deposited the delivery person clicks it shut and it cannot be opened again without your key.
But that wouldn't solve the issue with of signed for parcels. And before you say it's securely delivered in the locker, how many chancers are going to try the old "when I opened it, there was nothing in there" stunt.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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miniman said:
I imagine a lot of people would worry that it would be a magnet for thieves. The beauty of Amazon Lockers is that there’s no liability on you until you enter the access code and open the door.
I suppose that depends entirely on where you live.

Where I'm at, thankfully crime is very low. I do really stupid stuff all the time like leave my car and house keys hanging in the outside lock of my front door all night and nothing ever happens.

I probably wouldn't use one if I lived in a area where scumbags cruise the streets on a daily basis looking for every opportunity to steal or break into things.


ARHarh

3,757 posts

107 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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My postie leaves parcels in a nominated place, I just asked him when I saw him once, I do know him by name though which is probably a benefit of living in a small hamlet rather than a city.

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Sunday 16th February 2020
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This isn't going to change anything for people working 9-5 plus the commute. They won't be home for much of the 12-7pm shift either.

We need lockers, or a 6-10pm delivery slot if you need people to sign.