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Discussion
Candellara said:
egor110 said:
Like i said earlier i think the current ceo is at the same time talking down the share price also buying up huge amounts , i think his plan is to get rid of the uso then just turn us into a parcel delivery company thus getting rid of massive amounts of staff and property and then hey presto the shares increase again , he sells up and leaves the company.
Letter traffic is dying on it's arse and cannot sustain Royal Mail. The decline of direct mail, statements, bills etc has been absolutely huge over the last decade. Within the next five years, letters will pretty much cease to exist in any volume enough to be viable.Your CEO is right. The only way of keeping RM alive is to turn you into a parcel delivery company.
What you've read or what you know for a fact .
I know how many trays of letters I have to sort/deliver per day and the trouble is if I have 1 letter for every house or 5 I still have to go to every house .
As more and more posties stop coming into work early, stop working without a break the duties are up to time.
egor110 said:
What exactly are you basing your statement on ?
What you've read or what you know for a fact .
I know how many trays of letters I have to sort/deliver per day and the trouble is if I have 1 letter for every house or 5 I still have to go to every house .
As more and more posties stop coming into work early, stop working without a break the duties are up to time.
What I know for a fact. Look at the carnage in the direct mail sector. Most of the large companies are falling like flies - Howard Hunt, Sunline Direct Mail etc etc. It's rumoured that the two largest mailing companies in the UK (responsible for much of the transactional mail from Councils etc) are on the brink of going under due to declining volumes of letter based mailWhat you've read or what you know for a fact .
I know how many trays of letters I have to sort/deliver per day and the trouble is if I have 1 letter for every house or 5 I still have to go to every house .
As more and more posties stop coming into work early, stop working without a break the duties are up to time.
Well documented in most of the press also:
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/articl...
https://www.theweek.co.uk/99287/can-anything-halt-...
GDPR has also had a big impact on marketing mail as companies that used to share mailing data can no longer do so. All of the consumer mailing list providers now also cease to exist.
Unfortunately, yes you are correct. If you have 1 letter or 5 - you still have to go to every house. Unfortunately delivering just one letter to a house cannot sustain the cost of the infrastructure required and a posties salary.
Candellara said:
egor110 said:
What exactly are you basing your statement on ?
What you've read or what you know for a fact .
I know how many trays of letters I have to sort/deliver per day and the trouble is if I have 1 letter for every house or 5 I still have to go to every house .
As more and more posties stop coming into work early, stop working without a break the duties are up to time.
What I know for a fact. Look at the carnage in the direct mail sector. Most of the large companies are falling like flies - Howard Hunt, Sunline Direct Mail etc etc. It's rumoured that the two largest mailing companies in the UK (responsible for much of the transactional mail from Councils etc) are on the brink of going under due to declining volumes of letter based mailWhat you've read or what you know for a fact .
I know how many trays of letters I have to sort/deliver per day and the trouble is if I have 1 letter for every house or 5 I still have to go to every house .
As more and more posties stop coming into work early, stop working without a break the duties are up to time.
Well documented in most of the press also:
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/articl...
https://www.theweek.co.uk/99287/can-anything-halt-...
GDPR has also had a big impact on marketing mail as companies that used to share mailing data can no longer do so. All of the consumer mailing list providers now also cease to exist.
Unfortunately, yes you are correct. If you have 1 letter or 5 - you still have to go to every house. Unfortunately delivering just one letter to a house cannot sustain the cost of the infrastructure required and a posties salary.
Personally I think Rico black is going to lobby to get rid of the uso then have a massive cull of staff and delivery offices , hence at the same time he's talking down the company and crippling the share price he's also buying up millions of pounds worth of cheap shares ( as I am ) once he's created the new parcel company and the shares go up he'll sell up and go .
Where I am the night shift is already loosing duties , those staff have been offered evr or a delivery job .
Howard- said:
I don't really care what time Royal Mail deliver my s
t, but it'd be really nice if our postman wouldn't keep taking back to the delivery office anything that requires more than 0.005 Newtons of force to compress enough to fit through our letterbox.
The flip side is people complaining the postie has compressed a packet and crushed the contents or ripped off the draught excluder.t, but it'd be really nice if our postman wouldn't keep taking back to the delivery office anything that requires more than 0.005 Newtons of force to compress enough to fit through our letterbox. Like another poster I used to send a lot of small parcels and used RM when ever I could as they were reliable.
The proposed changes seem odd to me as surely the letter side of the business is ever diminishing anyway, perhaps 5 or 10 years a go it would have made sense to separate the letter and parcel deliveries but now?
I would have thought accepting the decline of letters and focusing on changes which make their parcel delivery more attractive would make more sense, but this seems to do almost the opposite. Introducing a locker system, particularly now they are in convenience stores and so on anyway, would be a much better idea.
The proposed changes seem odd to me as surely the letter side of the business is ever diminishing anyway, perhaps 5 or 10 years a go it would have made sense to separate the letter and parcel deliveries but now?
I would have thought accepting the decline of letters and focusing on changes which make their parcel delivery more attractive would make more sense, but this seems to do almost the opposite. Introducing a locker system, particularly now they are in convenience stores and so on anyway, would be a much better idea.
https://www.cityam.com/strike-on-the-cards-for-roy...
Royal Mail’s workers are set for its first national strike in a decade as the postal service’s largest union said it could call a stoppage as early as next month.
Yesterday Royal Maul proposed a six per cent three-year pay deal to the Communications Workers Union in a bid to avoid such strike action.
However, the CWU said today that threat of strike action, which was first announced earlier this month, is not linked to the pay dispute but to wider issues around the former postal monopoly.
The union said: “The pay offer is not linked to the dispute. We are balloting on the direction of the company, them breaching national agreements, the culture of the workplace”.
The Royal Mail, which employs around 143,000 people in the UK, is under pressure to adapt to changing attitudes to the industry, with more parcels and fewer letters sent.
“The ballot is definitely still going ahead. Papers are dispatched on 3 March, (it) closes on the 17th and the earliest we could call action would be 31 March,” the CWU said.
Royal Mail said its pay offer would mean an increase of more than 16 per cent between 1 April 2018 and 31 March 2023, but said it must deliver on a turnaround plan announced last year.
The firm’s Journey 2024 turnaround plan seeks to adapt to trends and turn Royal Mail into a more internationally focused parcel delivery business.
In its offer to the CWU, Royal Mail also said it will introduce a second van delivery in most parts of the country.
Shane O’Riordain, managing director of regulation, corporate affairs and marketing said: “Our proposal underlines our commitment to being the best employer in our industry.
Royal Mail’s workers are set for its first national strike in a decade as the postal service’s largest union said it could call a stoppage as early as next month.
Yesterday Royal Maul proposed a six per cent three-year pay deal to the Communications Workers Union in a bid to avoid such strike action.
However, the CWU said today that threat of strike action, which was first announced earlier this month, is not linked to the pay dispute but to wider issues around the former postal monopoly.
The union said: “The pay offer is not linked to the dispute. We are balloting on the direction of the company, them breaching national agreements, the culture of the workplace”.
The Royal Mail, which employs around 143,000 people in the UK, is under pressure to adapt to changing attitudes to the industry, with more parcels and fewer letters sent.
“The ballot is definitely still going ahead. Papers are dispatched on 3 March, (it) closes on the 17th and the earliest we could call action would be 31 March,” the CWU said.
Royal Mail said its pay offer would mean an increase of more than 16 per cent between 1 April 2018 and 31 March 2023, but said it must deliver on a turnaround plan announced last year.
The firm’s Journey 2024 turnaround plan seeks to adapt to trends and turn Royal Mail into a more internationally focused parcel delivery business.
In its offer to the CWU, Royal Mail also said it will introduce a second van delivery in most parts of the country.
Shane O’Riordain, managing director of regulation, corporate affairs and marketing said: “Our proposal underlines our commitment to being the best employer in our industry.
https://twitter.com/royalmailnews?ref_src=twsrc%5E...
Shane O’Riordain, Managing Director of Regulation, Corporate Affairs and Marketing, Royal Mail said:
Royal Mail has today put forward a proposal to CWU. It includes a six per cent three-year pay deal for our CWU-grade people. This means an increase, including the first hour of the shorter working week, of more than 16 per cent between 1 April 2018 and 31 March 2023.
We have said that we can only afford to do this if we deliver on the Plan we announced to our stakeholders in May 2019. To do this, we need to change more quickly than before.
Our proposal underlines our commitment to being the best employer in our industry. It maintains our policy of no compulsory redundancies for frontline operational colleagues. We will not become a gig economy employer. We will not introduce zero hours contracts for permanent employees. Nor would we look to outsource Royal Mail’s core operations.
We want to invest £1.8 billion in the UK. We need to turnaround and grow our UK business. This means the further automation of parcels, including the deployment of three new automated parcel hubs. Most of our parcels are currently hand sorted, just as they were in the Victorian period.
We will introduce a second van delivery in most parts of the country. This is about capitalising on the growth of “night owl” shopping. We will do this by introducing around 7,000 dedicated van delivery routes from c300 delivery offices by 2023. Delivery of letters and small parcels will remain unchanged through our existing Delivery Office network
UK letter volumes are expected to decline by 75 per cent in the 2004 – 2024 period. So, over the next four years, we plan to carefully reduce the number of daily walks from c58,000 to c50,000. Alongside this, we want to invest in the upgrading of the infrastructure that delivers the Universal Service. This means £115 million invested in upgrading our facilities, and £400 million in new vehicles to improve the fleet.
Shane O’Riordain, Managing Director of Regulation, Corporate Affairs and Marketing, Royal Mail said:
Royal Mail has today put forward a proposal to CWU. It includes a six per cent three-year pay deal for our CWU-grade people. This means an increase, including the first hour of the shorter working week, of more than 16 per cent between 1 April 2018 and 31 March 2023.
We have said that we can only afford to do this if we deliver on the Plan we announced to our stakeholders in May 2019. To do this, we need to change more quickly than before.
Our proposal underlines our commitment to being the best employer in our industry. It maintains our policy of no compulsory redundancies for frontline operational colleagues. We will not become a gig economy employer. We will not introduce zero hours contracts for permanent employees. Nor would we look to outsource Royal Mail’s core operations.
We want to invest £1.8 billion in the UK. We need to turnaround and grow our UK business. This means the further automation of parcels, including the deployment of three new automated parcel hubs. Most of our parcels are currently hand sorted, just as they were in the Victorian period.
We will introduce a second van delivery in most parts of the country. This is about capitalising on the growth of “night owl” shopping. We will do this by introducing around 7,000 dedicated van delivery routes from c300 delivery offices by 2023. Delivery of letters and small parcels will remain unchanged through our existing Delivery Office network
UK letter volumes are expected to decline by 75 per cent in the 2004 – 2024 period. So, over the next four years, we plan to carefully reduce the number of daily walks from c58,000 to c50,000. Alongside this, we want to invest in the upgrading of the infrastructure that delivers the Universal Service. This means £115 million invested in upgrading our facilities, and £400 million in new vehicles to improve the fleet.
gregs656 said:
Like another poster I used to send a lot of small parcels and used RM when ever I could as they were reliable.
The proposed changes seem odd to me as surely the letter side of the business is ever diminishing anyway, perhaps 5 or 10 years a go it would have made sense to separate the letter and parcel deliveries but now?
I would have thought accepting the decline of letters and focusing on changes which make their parcel delivery more attractive would make more sense, but this seems to do almost the opposite. Introducing a locker system, particularly now they are in convenience stores and so on anyway, would be a much better idea.
A locker system would see the unions sThe proposed changes seem odd to me as surely the letter side of the business is ever diminishing anyway, perhaps 5 or 10 years a go it would have made sense to separate the letter and parcel deliveries but now?
I would have thought accepting the decline of letters and focusing on changes which make their parcel delivery more attractive would make more sense, but this seems to do almost the opposite. Introducing a locker system, particularly now they are in convenience stores and so on anyway, would be a much better idea.
t themselves and strike the place into the ground.A500leroy said:
https://twitter.com/royalmailnews?ref_src=twsrc%5E...
Shane O’Riordain, Managing Director of Regulation, Corporate Affairs and Marketing, Royal Mail said:
Royal Mail has today put forward a proposal to CWU. It includes a six per cent three-year pay deal for our CWU-grade people. This means an increase, including the first hour of the shorter working week, of more than 16 per cent between 1 April 2018 and 31 March 2023.
We have said that we can only afford to do this if we deliver on the Plan we announced to our stakeholders in May 2019. To do this, we need to change more quickly than before.
Our proposal underlines our commitment to being the best employer in our industry. It maintains our policy of no compulsory redundancies for frontline operational colleagues. We will not become a gig economy employer. We will not introduce zero hours contracts for permanent employees. Nor would we look to outsource Royal Mail’s core operations.
We want to invest £1.8 billion in the UK. We need to turnaround and grow our UK business. This means the further automation of parcels, including the deployment of three new automated parcel hubs. Most of our parcels are currently hand sorted, just as they were in the Victorian period.
We will introduce a second van delivery in most parts of the country. This is about capitalising on the growth of “night owl” shopping. We will do this by introducing around 7,000 dedicated van delivery routes from c300 delivery offices by 2023. Delivery of letters and small parcels will remain unchanged through our existing Delivery Office network
UK letter volumes are expected to decline by 75 per cent in the 2004 – 2024 period. So, over the next four years, we plan to carefully reduce the number of daily walks from c58,000 to c50,000. Alongside this, we want to invest in the upgrading of the infrastructure that delivers the Universal Service. This means £115 million invested in upgrading our facilities, and £400 million in new vehicles to improve the fleet.
What your missing is were currently Midway thru a 3 year pay deal that Royal mail have decided to ignore because it was all agreed under a different CEO.Shane O’Riordain, Managing Director of Regulation, Corporate Affairs and Marketing, Royal Mail said:
Royal Mail has today put forward a proposal to CWU. It includes a six per cent three-year pay deal for our CWU-grade people. This means an increase, including the first hour of the shorter working week, of more than 16 per cent between 1 April 2018 and 31 March 2023.
We have said that we can only afford to do this if we deliver on the Plan we announced to our stakeholders in May 2019. To do this, we need to change more quickly than before.
Our proposal underlines our commitment to being the best employer in our industry. It maintains our policy of no compulsory redundancies for frontline operational colleagues. We will not become a gig economy employer. We will not introduce zero hours contracts for permanent employees. Nor would we look to outsource Royal Mail’s core operations.
We want to invest £1.8 billion in the UK. We need to turnaround and grow our UK business. This means the further automation of parcels, including the deployment of three new automated parcel hubs. Most of our parcels are currently hand sorted, just as they were in the Victorian period.
We will introduce a second van delivery in most parts of the country. This is about capitalising on the growth of “night owl” shopping. We will do this by introducing around 7,000 dedicated van delivery routes from c300 delivery offices by 2023. Delivery of letters and small parcels will remain unchanged through our existing Delivery Office network
UK letter volumes are expected to decline by 75 per cent in the 2004 – 2024 period. So, over the next four years, we plan to carefully reduce the number of daily walks from c58,000 to c50,000. Alongside this, we want to invest in the upgrading of the infrastructure that delivers the Universal Service. This means £115 million invested in upgrading our facilities, and £400 million in new vehicles to improve the fleet.
This pay offer is a completely different thing.
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