Coronavirus - Preparing for self-isolation
Discussion
petemurphy said:
its not deadlier as far as i have heard? the panic maybe though!
I am really hoping it's all just panic and hysteria but looking at the data it doesn't look too reassuring.Just look at how quickly it spread through Europe, we are talking matter of days and this is with quarantine in affect.
Certainly worth preparing for the worse.
anxious_ant said:
I am really hoping it's all just panic and hysteria but looking at the data it doesn't look too reassuring.
Just look at how quickly it spread through Europe, we are talking matter of days and this is with quarantine in affect.
Certainly worth preparing for the worse.
Your username is apt.Just look at how quickly it spread through Europe, we are talking matter of days and this is with quarantine in affect.
Certainly worth preparing for the worse.
anxious_ant said:
I am really hoping it's all just panic and hysteria but looking at the data it doesn't look too reassuring.
Just look at how quickly it spread through Europe, we are talking matter of days and this is with quarantine in affect.
Certainly worth preparing for the worse.
its spreading quick but only seems to be killing old people who would die with flu anyway?Just look at how quickly it spread through Europe, we are talking matter of days and this is with quarantine in affect.
Certainly worth preparing for the worse.
any medicines people are stocking up with? food etc should be fine for us but wouldnt want to be without some vital meds. or is it treated with the same meds as man flu
Robbo 27 said:
At least one school in my town is closed because they sent a school party to Italy. The children are supposed to stay at home.
Went shopping this morning and there were two under 10 children with their mother, the kids were coughing near the till, really wet loud productive coughs.
The cashier said whats this all about to the mother, the response was what else am I supposed to do, I had no food in the house to feed them for 2 weeks, and I cannot leave them in the house on their own.
I have spoken to the cashier before, he has children and I am sure he doesnt want to take any virus home.
I cleared off PDQ.
Should be OK, am sure I read the symptoms are a dry cough?Went shopping this morning and there were two under 10 children with their mother, the kids were coughing near the till, really wet loud productive coughs.
The cashier said whats this all about to the mother, the response was what else am I supposed to do, I had no food in the house to feed them for 2 weeks, and I cannot leave them in the house on their own.
I have spoken to the cashier before, he has children and I am sure he doesnt want to take any virus home.
I cleared off PDQ.
anxious_ant said:
Company issued statement to halt all non essential travel and also to limit visitors.
Disinfectant issued at various locations.
Non paid 14 days self quarantine if you have any flu like symptoms or have travelled to an affected country.
Starting to stock up on essentials for the family (water, tinned food, disinfectant, fuel, bog roll...). Aim is to survive on it for 1 month during the food and water shortage.
Also ordered protective masks with chemical filter and gloves.
Non paid?Disinfectant issued at various locations.
Non paid 14 days self quarantine if you have any flu like symptoms or have travelled to an affected country.
Starting to stock up on essentials for the family (water, tinned food, disinfectant, fuel, bog roll...). Aim is to survive on it for 1 month during the food and water shortage.
Also ordered protective masks with chemical filter and gloves.
Yeah that’s gonna keep people at home alright and not trying to hide stuff to still get paid.
Try telling the landlord or bank they’ll be non paid for half a month too.
Liamjrhodes said:
Really puzzles me why there is such hysteria about it, the common cold kills more people in the UK every year than have died in total from Coronavirus.
The problem is that it your ysual flu's knock you out of action for a couple of weeks quickly. This one stays dormant, allowing you to infect lots more people so more people get it. Real flu can be nasty.
Pass it onto anyone with existing issues and they may die a lot sooner than they would have done.
I am concerned that the panic will do more damage than the bug itself but there you go.
Liamjrhodes said:
Really puzzles me why there is such hysteria about it, the common cold kills more people in the UK every year than have died in total from Coronavirus.
The fatality rate is about 20 times higher than flu. The point of the current precautions is to try and stop it getting spread as widely as flu, as if it does it will kill a lot of people. I'm supposed to be going to Italy for a conference in a couple of weeks. No reported cases in the area but it's in the region where uk advice is to self isolate for 2 weeks when you get home! To be honest I'd rather they postpone/ cancel the meeting as I've got other stuff I wouldn't mind doing that week.
Edited by RizzoTheRat on Wednesday 26th February 14:56
Thales said:
RizzoTheRat said:
The fatality rate is about 20 times higher than flu. The point of the current precautions is to try and stop it getting spread as widely as flu, as if it does it will kill a lot of people.
Source?Thales said:
Source?
Last WHO statement I saw was estimating 1-2%, with Wuhan about double that. That was a few days ago though, have they revised it down since? Wuhan rate was expected to be high as they were slow responding. I believe Italy has seen around 3% but again until you know it's there and start testing a lot of people the rate will seem high as you only find out about the serious cases.
RizzoTheRat said:
Last WHO statement I saw was estimating 1-2%, with Wuhan about double that. That was a few days ago though, have they revised it down since?
Wuhan rate was expected to be high as they were slow responding. I believe Italy has seen around 3% but again until you know it's there and start testing a lot of people the rate will seem high as you only find out about the serious cases.
I heard 0.9% on BBC's More or LessWuhan rate was expected to be high as they were slow responding. I believe Italy has seen around 3% but again until you know it's there and start testing a lot of people the rate will seem high as you only find out about the serious cases.
MrBarry123 said:
anxious_ant said:
I am really hoping it's all just panic and hysteria but looking at the data it doesn't look too reassuring.
Just look at how quickly it spread through Europe, we are talking matter of days and this is with quarantine in affect.
Certainly worth preparing for the worse.
Your username is apt.Just look at how quickly it spread through Europe, we are talking matter of days and this is with quarantine in affect.
Certainly worth preparing for the worse.
RizzoTheRat said:
Last WHO statement I saw was estimating 1-2%, with Wuhan about double that. That was a few days ago though, have they revised it down since?
Wuhan rate was expected to be high as they were slow responding. I believe Italy has seen around 3% but again until you know it's there and start testing a lot of people the rate will seem high as you only find out about the serious cases.
Rizzo, I was looking for a source which states the following "The fatality rate is about 20 times higher than flu.". A source with such statement would limit the spread of disinformation. Wuhan rate was expected to be high as they were slow responding. I believe Italy has seen around 3% but again until you know it's there and start testing a lot of people the rate will seem high as you only find out about the serious cases.
p1stonhead said:
Non paid?
Yeah that’s gonna keep people at home alright and not trying to hide stuff to still get paid.
Try telling the landlord or bank they’ll be non paid for half a month too.
Word is you take days off from your holidays. Any additional are discretionary or deducted pro rata.Yeah that’s gonna keep people at home alright and not trying to hide stuff to still get paid.
Try telling the landlord or bank they’ll be non paid for half a month too.
If there are symptoms and you still turn up it's disciplinary.
To me it's a bit extreme but what do I know.
I'm supposed to be going to Vietnam in April with Mrs K and another couple - I seem to be talking about nothing else.
My personal view is that it's too late to stop it spreading - if you don't control the index cases early enough, international travel and urban environments will beat you - China's infection rates are now reducing (note: infections are still rising, but not as fast) but it is too late, and no other country has the absolute control over the population that they have to control the spread. Looking at the evidence I've seen, Covid19 doesn't seem much more aggressive than other forms of flu, it's just that the 14 day incubation period means it gets spread without being obvious.
And our holiday? the blokes view is go anyway - the chances of catching it there are not much worse than here and we don't have any underlying respiratory problems. The risk is coughing at the wrong time at the airport and spending a 14 day holiday in isolation, and our wives are more worried about that and being quarantined when we return.
My personal view is that it's too late to stop it spreading - if you don't control the index cases early enough, international travel and urban environments will beat you - China's infection rates are now reducing (note: infections are still rising, but not as fast) but it is too late, and no other country has the absolute control over the population that they have to control the spread. Looking at the evidence I've seen, Covid19 doesn't seem much more aggressive than other forms of flu, it's just that the 14 day incubation period means it gets spread without being obvious.
And our holiday? the blokes view is go anyway - the chances of catching it there are not much worse than here and we don't have any underlying respiratory problems. The risk is coughing at the wrong time at the airport and spending a 14 day holiday in isolation, and our wives are more worried about that and being quarantined when we return.
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