How grim was mid 1970's London?

How grim was mid 1970's London?

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Thankyou4calling

10,607 posts

174 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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Where’s Frank7 these days.

He could add plenty to this thread.

leigh1050

2,375 posts

166 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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SpudLink said:
Not sure, but there are still roads in East London where the cobbles are sometimes revealed by potholes.
The roads at The Monument are still cobbled.

psi310398

9,130 posts

204 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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Thankyou4calling said:
Where’s Frank7 these days.

He could add plenty to this thread.
He was sent sarf of the river by the mods and won’t be cummin back, if you get my drift...

Neil1300r

5,487 posts

179 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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SpudLink said:
WindyCommon said:
Fascinating thread. Have Irish Republican attacks been discussed?
My first real awareness of the bombing campaign was one evening when my mum had to explain dad would be late home. He had phoned to say he was ok, but I distinctly remember how frightened she was until he phoned.

In ‘83 I walked past the Harrods bomb about 5 minutes before it exploded. I still remember the sound and the mushroom cloud over the buildings.
Remember the bombings well. Not being allowed to open / touch the post. Many times my Dad was late home because of the bombing campaign. But he was a founding member of the Met Police bomb squad and spent most of the 70's in the bombing squad. The Guildford and Birmingham cases were not his

mikey_b

1,821 posts

46 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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There are loads of roads still cobbled in central London, especially the side roads. Mostly they have 2-3" of tarmac on top, but the stones are clearly visible around the numerous potholes and areas of surface damage.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Thursday 13th May 2021
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some nice period footage in the new Madness doco


Mikebentley

6,124 posts

141 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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When I was a Prison Officer I met a prisoner from London convicted of importing Canabis on a huge scale, ie tons. His families haulage business had grown when tarmac was being laid over the granite blocks or wooden blocks on the streets of London. They had made a lot of money selling the discarded spoil (wood/granite). There are images of where occasionally the wooden blocks resurface as the tarmac wears away

SpudLink

5,860 posts

193 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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Mikebentley said:
When I was a Prison Officer I met a prisoner from London convicted of importing Canabis on a huge scale, ie tons. His families haulage business had grown when tarmac was being laid over the granite blocks or wooden blocks on the streets of London. They had made a lot of money selling the discarded spoil (wood/granite). There are images of where occasionally the wooden blocks resurface as the tarmac wears away
Did you met any prisoners who knew if victims of The Krays were entombed in the pillars of the Bow flyover? smile This seemed to be an urban myth when I was young.

Castrol for a knave

4,716 posts

92 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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LaurasOtherHalf said:


some nice period footage in the new Madness doco
I was just about to post a reference to that - good call.

It's a great little film. Looking forward to the next instalment.

It really does bring home how gritty London (and most cities )were in the 60's and 70's.

Not saying I am a fan, but I got married in 2019, and our first dance was Night Boat to Cairo, shove that up yer arse Celine Dion.

Johnspex

4,343 posts

185 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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SpudLink said:
Mikebentley said:
When I was a Prison Officer I met a prisoner from London convicted of importing Canabis on a huge scale, ie tons. His families haulage business had grown when tarmac was being laid over the granite blocks or wooden blocks on the streets of London. They had made a lot of money selling the discarded spoil (wood/granite). There are images of where occasionally the wooden blocks resurface as the tarmac wears away
Did you met any prisoners who knew if victims of The Krays were entombed in the pillars of the Bow flyover? smile This seemed to be an urban myth when I was young.
Wasn't it the Chiswick Flyover? Ginger McCain or similar.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

118 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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Johnspex said:
SpudLink said:
Mikebentley said:
When I was a Prison Officer I met a prisoner from London convicted of importing Canabis on a huge scale, ie tons. His families haulage business had grown when tarmac was being laid over the granite blocks or wooden blocks on the streets of London. They had made a lot of money selling the discarded spoil (wood/granite). There are images of where occasionally the wooden blocks resurface as the tarmac wears away
Did you met any prisoners who knew if victims of The Krays were entombed in the pillars of the Bow flyover? smile This seemed to be an urban myth when I was young.
Wasn't it the Chiswick Flyover? Ginger McCain or similar.
I worked on the M4 (Colnbrook to Osterley) in the 60s and it was a regular thing "Special overtime" it was called. Hold the concrete pour, chuck a few bodies in, continue pouring, smooth it all out. Job done.

Roofless Toothless

5,678 posts

133 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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eek

RichB

51,607 posts

285 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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Johnspex said:
Wasn't it the Chiswick Flyover? Ginger McCain or similar.
I heard Chiswick Flyover...

Thankyou4calling

10,607 posts

174 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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I knew the Krays.

Well, when I say I knew them I mean I knew of them through my Grandad who drank in the Blind Beggar in 1997 and bumped into a bloke who was there on the infamous night.

He saw nothing.

Lovely people they were.

And it was the A40 elevated section between Portobello Road and Ladbroke Grove.

vixen1700

23,009 posts

271 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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Must admit I did like the Blind Beggar, was in there quite a bit around the mid 90s and it always had a decent, friendly vibe in there.

clockworks

5,375 posts

146 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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My dad lived just off Queensland Road, just north of the Regent Canal. Mum lived not far away, just off Kingsland Road.
When they were "courting" in the mid fifties, one of their first dates was to the Blind Beggar.

Mikebentley

6,124 posts

141 months

Friday 14th May 2021
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In 1995 I lived in Chingford as I met a girl from there. She worked at a pub called Wheelwrights run by a Chinese man. Frankie Fraser used to sit at the bar on an afternoon. I spent many an hour chatting to him about this and that. I didn’t know who he was until I was told and I never talked to him about the obvious.

irocfan

40,542 posts

191 months

Saturday 15th May 2021
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Thankyou4calling said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
The Houndsditch.....warehouse.........a world full of bargains just waiting for you in our store. (or something like that)
Was that “The big red building in Petticoat Lane” ?
No, that was Goldrange, who sold suits. In E1

The Houndsditch Warehouse was located on.....wait for it.....Houndsditch, EC3.
please tell me I wasn't imagining this but didn't Houndsditch (the shop) have a bridge over the street to a building on the other side?

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Saturday 15th May 2021
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Castrol for a knave said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:


some nice period footage in the new Madness doco
I was just about to post a reference to that - good call.

It's a great little film. Looking forward to the next instalment.

It really does bring home how gritty London (and most cities )were in the 60's and 70's.

Not saying I am a fan, but I got married in 2019, and our first dance was Night Boat to Cairo, shove that up yer arse Celine Dion.
We had (I used to be a DJ so took it way too seriously!) "Here comes my girl" by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, "Northern Sky" as the actual wedding dance and then the "Blitzkrieg Bop" to get everyone in the mood again. Some tt asked for some Adele crap as the last dance of the night and I made them hold the busses so we could have something else after-I'm not having my last dance of our wedding as some soppy ste.

Back on topic, I love the historical griminess of it all back then, it still feels like my childhood (we were country kids so going into the city is really burned in my memory).

We watched the Son Of Sam doco on Netflix last week and I just adore the utter sthole that was the Bronx and most of central New York between the mid seventies to early eighties.

If I had a time machine it would be the first place I'd visit. I remember visiting the area around Union Square years ago and it still had that crummy vibe to it-only a couple of blocks but boy was it good. I was in a bit of a punk period with bleached blonde hair and skinny women jeans before they were a thing and some massive-about 7 foot tall-black gangster stopping me in the street and asking "where you got that hair done kid?"


anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 15th May 2021
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Blib said:
I loved the Houndsditch warehouse. I used to sell stuff to them through our family's Commercial Road based, job buying business.

I also spent many 70s Sundays working on a stall in Commercial Street (Petticoat Lane) selling reproduction pub mirrors.

Spent all day shouting "pound yer mirrers!". We were close to a proto-punk stall which was attacked by Teds on many occasions.

No fun trying to keep the fracas away from our mirror stall. hehe

I knew the guy who owned Goldrange. They moved to Golders Green and he died about 4 or 5 years ago.


Edited by Blib on Sunday 18th April 15:25
I remember the Houndsditch warehouse. My Dad worked nearby . We used to go up on a Saturday and I got a bike from there as well as all our camping gear.
Before that, we used to go to Gammages which was similar.