When will we be able to go to the pub again?

[V8covin]

Welshbeef said:

That is true however no one goes out to become overweight. No one wants to be heavily sweating in cool conditions no one wants to be out of breath going up a few flights of stairs. No man wants belly being so large they cannot see their winkie.

To label people fat bds or such like is very hard - there is a route cause as to why they are eating more than they require. Mental health depression lack of education on food, addiction.

I know plenty of fat people who couldn't care less what they look like and just drink and eat whatever they like with no concern for their health.You can't educate people who refuse to listen

[Welshbeef]

V8covin said:

I know plenty of fat people who couldn't care less what they look like and just drink and eat whatever they like with no concern for their health.You can't educate people who refuse to listen

But surely every person wants to live as long as possible not lose 5/10/15 years of life by doing certain things. In addition to a reduced quality of life too.

I’ve no doubt there are some who are as you point out but no one wants to be fat be laughed at be mocked be the last chosen when players being selected for footie as your fat slow and are dripping with sweat after jogging ten paces.
Smell too - cannot fit into car seats properly especially the proper racing seats.

Govt of all colours are to blame - focus was on “fat” instead of cutting down on carbs. Carb reduction is instant weight reduction impact.

[The Mad Monk]

Welshbeef said:

But surely every person wants to live as long as possible not lose 5/10/15 years of life by doing certain things. In addition to a reduced quality of life too.

If that were so, no one would smoke cigarettes.

[Welshbeef]

The Mad Monk said:

If that were so, no one would smoke cigarettes.

I don’t think you fully appreciate addiction and how exceptionally hard it is to beat. In fact you can never beat it it’s a continuous lifelong challenge to do so.

[V8covin]

Welshbeef said:

But surely every person wants to live as long as possible not lose 5/10/15 years of life by doing certain things. In addition to a reduced quality of life too.

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No

[scottyp123]

V8covin said:

Welshbeef said:

But surely every person wants to live as long as possible not lose 5/10/15 years of life by doing certain things. In addition to a reduced quality of life too.

.

No

I'm in the no camp, if you live an extra 10 years then its added to the end of your life not the middle. You don't get an extra 10 years of your 30's to play with you just get to spend an extra 10 years bed ridden when you are 90, probably doolally and stting in a pan.

So beer and cream cakes v pan stting, its a tough one.

[cloggy]

scottyp123 said:

I'm in the no camp, if you live an extra 10 years then its added to the end of your life not the middle. You don't get an extra 10 years of your 30's to play with you just get to spend an extra 10 years bed ridden when you are 90, probably doolally and stting in a pan.

So beer and cream cakes v pan stting, its a tough one.

I am with you all the way.

[Welshbeef]

cloggy said:

scottyp123 said:

I'm in the no camp, if you live an extra 10 years then its added to the end of your life not the middle. You don't get an extra 10 years of your 30's to play with you just get to spend an extra 10 years bed ridden when you are 90, probably doolally and stting in a pan.

So beer and cream cakes v pan stting, its a tough one.

I am with you all the way.

High BMI club >35 is where it’s at? Is that right.

[scottyp123]

Welshbeef said:

cloggy said:

scottyp123 said:

I'm in the no camp, if you live an extra 10 years then its added to the end of your life not the middle. You don't get an extra 10 years of your 30's to play with you just get to spend an extra 10 years bed ridden when you are 90, probably doolally and stting in a pan.

So beer and cream cakes v pan stting, its a tough one.

I am with you all the way.

High BMI club >35 is where it’s at? Is that right.

Its certainly a fun place to be.

[anonymous-user]

Well the food is certainly good.

[Thankyou4calling]

There’s very little conclusive evidence that being overweight reduces life expectancy.

[jakesmith]

scottyp123 said:

Welshbeef said:

cloggy said:

scottyp123 said:

I'm in the no camp, if you live an extra 10 years then its added to the end of your life not the middle. You don't get an extra 10 years of your 30's to play with you just get to spend an extra 10 years bed ridden when you are 90, probably doolally and stting in a pan.

So beer and cream cakes v pan stting, its a tough one.

I am with you all the way.

High BMI club >35 is where it’s at? Is that right.

Its certainly a fun place to be.

I used to think exactly that way too and just ate whatever I liked. 2 problems though

1) quality of life if you get diabetes, heart disease, stroke etc. If you don’t want to spend the last 10 years 80-90 stting in a bed pan, I don’t want to spend the last 30 years unable to do moderate exercise, unable to move my face, injecting insulin or any of these other unforeseen debilitating health complications.

2) I was fed up with looking like a fat . I’ve never been one for caring that much what others think but just as eating whatever I liked before was liberating, as there is no restrictions, now I’m normal body shape that’s liberating too as I’m not a fat.

[So]

Thankyou4calling said:

There’s very little conclusive evidence that being overweight reduces life expectancy.

There seems to be since COVID has been on the scene no?

[Smiler.]

Thankyou4calling said:

There’s very little conclusive evidence that being overweight reduces life expectancy.

It might affect wife expectancy though. Which is somewhat related.

[popeyewhite]

Thankyou4calling said:

There’s very little conclusive evidence that being overweight reduces life expectancy.

There's lots, depending on the degree of 'overweight'.

A couple of stone overweight probably wont interefere with your health if you are not too sedentary.
Double that to four stone and that's bordrline obese. Cancer, diabetes, heart disease, stroke. I've an inkling one of those could affect life expectancy.

[Robertj21a]

Smiler. said:

Thankyou4calling said:

There’s very little conclusive evidence that being overweight reduces life expectancy.

It might affect wife expectancy though. Which is somewhat related.

But, to many, no wife means a more enjoyable life of freedom.

[Smiler.]

Robertj21a said:

Smiler. said:

Thankyou4calling said:

There’s very little conclusive evidence that being overweight reduces life expectancy.

It might affect wife expectancy though. Which is somewhat related.

But, to many, no wife means a more enjoyable life of freedom.

Aye.

[JQ]

Had a really nice night last night, took my family to our local Italian for a meal. Temp taken on entry, contact forms completed and lots of sanitiser everywhere. Tables were completely clear (other than sanitiser) and we’ll spaced. Waiters didn’t wear masks but did keep a distance. Really nice atmosphere and great to go out again.

Kids went home after the meal and me & Mrs JQ went to a local wine bar. Again, really lovely, well spaced and all rules adhered to.

Popped our heads into the local pub just to have a look but didn’t stay and it all looked well spaced.

It certainly wasn’t the Armageddon that was predicted, more like an autumn Wednesday evening night out.

Someone earlier mentioned deaths in comparison to the 137 who died with Covid in their system on Friday. Average daily deaths :

460 cancer
450 heart disease
48 normal flu
197 dementia / altzheimers
18 commit suicide

The above are based on past rates, I believe all those rates are likely to increase due to early diagnosis being missed as a result of Covid.

[djc206]

cloggy said:

scottyp123 said:

I'm in the no camp, if you live an extra 10 years then its added to the end of your life not the middle. You don't get an extra 10 years of your 30's to play with you just get to spend an extra 10 years bed ridden when you are 90, probably doolally and stting in a pan.

So beer and cream cakes v pan stting, its a tough one.

I am with you all the way.

Yep. Everything in moderation including moderation itself.

[C70R]

unident said:

All you’ve done there is miss the point and select the bits you want to address.

The point is simple. There is a clear bravado about being the one who wants to go to the pub immediately and a clear insulting dismissal of those who don’t.

And there's another camp of people who've spent the week leading up to the reopening inventing witty, new ways to look down their noses at those who went to the pub.

I didn't go to the pub yesterday, but I'm not desperately clambering for the moral highground like so many others.

I may grab a pint one evening after work this week with some friends.