When will we be able to go to the pub again?
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It will end, but not soon enough. It could and should end tomorrow.
Clearly the vaccines work, and as I've said in here before, once you get down to deaths in double figures it is hard to argue a case for any restrictions.
NHS at one third of peak now, cases dropping like a stone.
A to vaccine passports I just don't see how they will work. Pubs can't afford someone stupid at the door all day long and once you're in well other people can buy your drinks.
I can see it for flights, I can possibly see it for indoor events, but no way is your local going to employ someone to keep people out when they want every customer they can get.
Clearly the vaccines work, and as I've said in here before, once you get down to deaths in double figures it is hard to argue a case for any restrictions.
NHS at one third of peak now, cases dropping like a stone.
A to vaccine passports I just don't see how they will work. Pubs can't afford someone stupid at the door all day long and once you're in well other people can buy your drinks.
I can see it for flights, I can possibly see it for indoor events, but no way is your local going to employ someone to keep people out when they want every customer they can get.
We are currently looking at 15th March...... I doubt it will happen if the bordering countries of Belgium, France and Germany have later dates, so as to slow people coming across the borders to eat, drink and be merry in Luxembourg!
I mean, hairdressers in Wasserbillig have had clients driving from Munich, 250 odd miles, FFS, so for beer and food, anything is possible!!
I mean, hairdressers in Wasserbillig have had clients driving from Munich, 250 odd miles, FFS, so for beer and food, anything is possible!!
CallThatMusic said:
Ultra Sound Guy said:
I recall I played pool against Stephen Hendry upstairs in that bar.
I lost.
Good news...
Sacha Lord forces government to drop substantial meal rule – and hopes to bring forward reopening
https://www.thecaterer.com/news/sacha-lord-forces-...
Well done Mr. Lord.
Sacha Lord forces government to drop substantial meal rule – and hopes to bring forward reopening
https://www.thecaterer.com/news/sacha-lord-forces-...
Well done Mr. Lord.
RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
I'm probably averaging 8 or 9 330ml bother of Amstel a night. I'm also becoming quite nocturnal.
Same here, but the 400ml cans. I stopped drinking Stella etc several months ago and swapped to 3.8% Carlsberg. I try to avoid wine during the week too. What used to stay my gland during the week was having to be driving at 6am - obviously that doesn’t happen now. jakesmith said:
You know on social media I'd just ignore that comment but you're an intelligent man so I have to ask - to what end? It is hardly making them popular or bolstering treasury tax take. It may all well get delayed but it will be through incompetence or circumstances, not deliberately to exercise 'control' surely.
^^^ThisCarrot said:
jakesmith said:
. In my opinion the public’s response to this has been abysmal, a total lack of realism, big picture thinking or responsibility taken, some shockingly selfish and ignorant behaviour.
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You could say exactly the same thing about the Governments response....
Carrot said:
jakesmith said:
. In my opinion the public’s response to this has been abysmal, a total lack of realism, big picture thinking or responsibility taken, some shockingly selfish and ignorant behaviour.
.
You could say exactly the same thing about the Governments response....
heads as you’d expect. Vs the public who have by contrast been given clear and simple instructions to follow (and financial support that many other countries can only dream of) and have visible broken them consistently out of a total disregard for the society that they are extremely fortunate to be a part of. That is far more malign in my view.
Anyone remember this time about 50 or so weeks ago - everyone was thinking "yeah, we will be back up and running again by June or July" and putting their holidays back til August and September? 
Oh the naivety!
The number of people who thought we would be still in this sort of locked down state for 14 months would have been very small, and they'd have been derided as pessimistic fools.
Oh the naivety!The number of people who thought we would be still in this sort of locked down state for 14 months would have been very small, and they'd have been derided as pessimistic fools.
Dog Star said:
Anyone remember this time about 50 or so weeks ago - everyone was thinking "yeah, we will be back up and running again by June or July" and putting their holidays back til August and September? Oh the naivety!
The number of people who thought we would be still in this sort of locked down state for 14 months would have been very small, and they'd have been derided as pessimistic fools.
I remember telling my wife that to be sensible we should write our entire year off to be honest Oh the naivety!The number of people who thought we would be still in this sort of locked down state for 14 months would have been very small, and they'd have been derided as pessimistic fools.
jakesmith said:
Carrot said:
jakesmith said:
. In my opinion the public’s response to this has been abysmal, a total lack of realism, big picture thinking or responsibility taken, some shockingly selfish and ignorant behaviour.
.
You could say exactly the same thing about the Governments response....
heads as you’d expect. Vs the public who have by contrast been given clear and simple instructions to follow (and financial support that many other countries can only dream of) and have visible broken them consistently out of a total disregard for the society that they are extremely fortunate to be a part of. That is far more malign in my view.
Don't wear a mask, makes no difference
Actually wear a mask, makes a huge difference suddenly
Don't go out
Eat out to Help out
Close all restaurants
Substantial meal
Exercise local area / not local area
Do go out, wait Don't go out
Masks are to protect you
Masks are to protect others
This is a killer virus that will kill your nan and everyone you know
This virus has a <1% mortality rate and actually isn't dangerous, but we will keep saying it is
You can exercise away from your home
We will arrest you from exercising away from your home
Schools are going back
Schools are not going back and suddenly you are home schooling
There will be no vaccine passports
We are trialling vaccine passports
There will be vaccine passports
I could go on but you probably get the idea.
It's f
king ridiculous - there have been NO clear and simple instructions since the inception of this crisis... I can accept the first lockdown as we didn't know what we were dealing with but everything else has been utterly ridiculous, and a lot of it is simple bordering on child abuse now...Life must be very difficult for you if you can’t see that:
- life isn’t perfect
- information used to make decisions changes
- the public mood needs to be considered in a free society to maintain public order
- As I’ve already told you the government has tried to balance the economy and health which is essentially always going to produce victims in both areas
- ‘the science’ is not a consolidated consensus that stays constant as a situation develops. It is a myriad of different views and models.
You strike me as the sort of person who would complain no matter what happens, making your experience of life very hard for yourself and others around you.
Suffice to say everything you’ve written above I disagree with half of it is complete nonsense.
Probably best to agree to disagree at this stage
- life isn’t perfect
- information used to make decisions changes
- the public mood needs to be considered in a free society to maintain public order
- As I’ve already told you the government has tried to balance the economy and health which is essentially always going to produce victims in both areas
- ‘the science’ is not a consolidated consensus that stays constant as a situation develops. It is a myriad of different views and models.
You strike me as the sort of person who would complain no matter what happens, making your experience of life very hard for yourself and others around you.
Suffice to say everything you’ve written above I disagree with half of it is complete nonsense.
Probably best to agree to disagree at this stage
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