When will we be able to go to the pub again?
Discussion
ash73 said:
unident said:
chopper602 said:
unident said:
Why would you think that a vaccine would ever happen soon? Has one ever been developed in a couple of months?
I heard someone from one of the major drug companies (they are all collaborating on their research) on Radio 4 this morning, saying that by the end of next year they'd be able to produce many millions of doses of vaccine. So that's Q4 2021. Apparently that is really quick as it would normally take around a decade!Back on topic I think we’re looking at a relaxation of the lockdown at the end of June but pubs , clubs etc will be another 3 months away.
But it could be like HIV... how long have they been working on a vaccine for that, 40 years?
It never brought the world to a near standstill so the collaboration and funding was never there to develop it any quicker.
Steamer said:
Similar but very different - you wouldnt catch HIV going about your everyday life. It only effected a very small number in the western world and could be far more easily contained.
It never brought the world to a near standstill so the collaboration and funding was never there to develop it any quicker.
If you were around in the mid-80s, I think you’d have a different view. It never brought the world to a near standstill so the collaboration and funding was never there to develop it any quicker.
milfordkong said:
stongle said:
Megaflow said:
For everybody saying it will be July/mid summer at the earliest. The government only announced 12 weeks of furlough, which takes us to the 23th June as the person from Greene King said. Unless they extend that, which given that is all China had, seems unlikely, anything beyond that means most pubs and bars will be out of business very quickly.
So, having said that, why not try and put a f
king positive on this st situation and look forward to pubs hopefully open in late June, instead of being so depressing and claiming pubs are going to open until September at the absolute earliest!
Have a +1.So, having said that, why not try and put a f
king positive on this st situation and look forward to pubs hopefully open in late June, instead of being so depressing and claiming pubs are going to open until September at the absolute earliest! unident said:
Steamer said:
Similar but very different - you wouldnt catch HIV going about your everyday life. It only effected a very small number in the western world and could be far more easily contained.
It never brought the world to a near standstill so the collaboration and funding was never there to develop it any quicker.
If you were around in the mid-80s, I think you’d have a different view. It never brought the world to a near standstill so the collaboration and funding was never there to develop it any quicker.
but as long as you didnt have a blood transfusion, unprotected sex with a stranger, or live in Africa your odds were pretty good of never getting it in the first place.. very little hope if you did contract it in the early days I agree.
Steamer said:
I was - I remember the tomb stone advert very well!
but as long as you didnt have a blood transfusion, unprotected sex with a stranger, or live in Africa your odds were pretty good of never getting it in the first place.. very little hope if you did contract it in the early days I agree.
There was a lot of misinformation though. Some were concerned that it could be caught from toilet seats or pub glasses that hadn’t been washed properly etc.but as long as you didnt have a blood transfusion, unprotected sex with a stranger, or live in Africa your odds were pretty good of never getting it in the first place.. very little hope if you did contract it in the early days I agree.
Steamer said:
I was - I remember the tomb stone advert very well!
but as long as you didnt have a blood transfusion, unprotected sex with a stranger, or live in Africa your odds were pretty good of never getting it in the first place.. very little hope if you did contract it in the early days I agree.
Totally agree, but the way it was positioned was that we’d all have it by the end of next week and all be dead soon after. As much as it didn’t really impact on the vast majority, there was amd still is a huge spend on cure / vaccine experimentation. but as long as you didnt have a blood transfusion, unprotected sex with a stranger, or live in Africa your odds were pretty good of never getting it in the first place.. very little hope if you did contract it in the early days I agree.
Megaflow said:
For everybody saying it will be July/mid summer at the earliest. The government only announced 12 weeks of furlough, which takes us to the 23th June as the person from Greene King said. Unless they extend that, which given that is all China had, seems unlikely, anything beyond that means most pubs and bars will be out of business very quickly.
So, having said that, why not try and put a fking positive on this st situation and look forward to pubs hopefully open in late June, instead of being so depressing and claiming pubs are going to open until September at the absolute earliest!
Probably because most people who have been following the medical updates will know that pubs reopening by June is extremely unlikely. If there's a small, phased, return to 'ordinary' work it's not going to happen until at least mid-late May and they will want to see how that works in practice before there's any question of opening up any of those establishments where people routinely congregate. Cafes, restaurants, football etc are surely going to be left until September, at the earliest ?So, having said that, why not try and put a f
king positive on this st situation and look forward to pubs hopefully open in late June, instead of being so depressing and claiming pubs are going to open until September at the absolute earliest! Megaflow said:
For everybody saying it will be July/mid summer at the earliest. The government only announced 12 weeks of furlough, which takes us to the 23th June as the person from Greene King said. Unless they extend that, which given that is all China had, seems unlikely, anything beyond that means most pubs and bars will be out of business very quickly.
So, having said that, why not try and put a fking positive on this st situation and look forward to pubs hopefully open in late June, instead of being so depressing and claiming pubs are going to open until September at the absolute earliest!
This!So, having said that, why not try and put a f
king positive on this st situation and look forward to pubs hopefully open in late June, instead of being so depressing and claiming pubs are going to open until September at the absolute earliest! I was personally going to say sometime in June / early July. Was surprised by the negative responses. There will become a point where if we carry on any longer, the economy will collapse and people will start eating each other
It's all a balancing act. I think it will happen quicker than people think, but with some restrictions. Queues will return to pubs on a weekend like the 90s.unident said:
Steamer said:
Similar but very different - you wouldnt catch HIV going about your everyday life. It only effected a very small number in the western world and could be far more easily contained.
It never brought the world to a near standstill so the collaboration and funding was never there to develop it any quicker.
If you were around in the mid-80s, I think you’d have a different view. It never brought the world to a near standstill so the collaboration and funding was never there to develop it any quicker.
DeuceDeuce said:
Look lovely. Where in Mexico was that?
Thanks.
Playa del carmen.Thanks.
https://www.barcelo.com/en-gb/royal-hideaway/hotel...
It was lovely for the first week.
Then they started shutting everything down - on the last day (when pic was taken) there were 6 guests left in the whole place and they were closing the resort down and laying off the staff
.Megaflow said:
milfordkong said:
stongle said:
Megaflow said:
For everybody saying it will be July/mid summer at the earliest. The government only announced 12 weeks of furlough, which takes us to the 23th June as the person from Greene King said. Unless they extend that, which given that is all China had, seems unlikely, anything beyond that means most pubs and bars will be out of business very quickly.
So, having said that, why not try and put a fking positive on this st situation and look forward to pubs hopefully open in late June, instead of being so depressing and claiming pubs are going to open until September at the absolute earliest!
Have a +1.So, having said that, why not try and put a f
king positive on this st situation and look forward to pubs hopefully open in late June, instead of being so depressing and claiming pubs are going to open until September at the absolute earliest! Your are correct the continual negativity is doing my head in!
The work will return to normal. Man kind has always socialised and travelled and will continue to do so on the other side of this.
I live in Luxembourg
We are in week 5 of shutdown
The govt will likely reopen high schools for final year students on 4th May, others a week or 2 later.
We don't expect bars or restaurants to open for a couple of week after that.... having closed borders and the airport before the UK did. (e.g., UK airports still have inbound international flights.)
I'd be very surprised if the UK would open places on a bank holiday weekend, en masse.
We are in week 5 of shutdown
The govt will likely reopen high schools for final year students on 4th May, others a week or 2 later.
We don't expect bars or restaurants to open for a couple of week after that.... having closed borders and the airport before the UK did. (e.g., UK airports still have inbound international flights.)
I'd be very surprised if the UK would open places on a bank holiday weekend, en masse.
ash73 said:
But it could be like HIV... how long have they been working on a vaccine for that, 40 years?
I know this isn't politically correct... but how many people caught HIV that weren't personally to blame for catching it? you can't expect the world to spend billions trying to cure something that you caught through your own stupidity. And keep in mind it can only realistically be further passed on to someone equally stupid. Its really not a realistic comparison. You aren't getting HIV from breathing on someone or being near them.
Lord Marylebone said:
I have said this before and I will repeat it: I will never take "having a pint in a pub" for granted ever again.
That aside, I think as soon as they finish building and testing all these large temporary hospitals, the government will greatly ease the restrictions on our movements.
They will allow 80-90% normality to return, and just let the virus travel through the population who haven't yet been infected, using the temporary hospitals to cope with whatever happens.
I agree with this, but there's already capacity in the NHS with new hospitals sitting empty. That aside, I think as soon as they finish building and testing all these large temporary hospitals, the government will greatly ease the restrictions on our movements.
They will allow 80-90% normality to return, and just let the virus travel through the population who haven't yet been infected, using the temporary hospitals to cope with whatever happens.
I think we're going to have three more weeks of lockdown and the stats will then determine if the restrictions can be relaxed.
Could be then extended a week at a time, or there could be a gradual lifting.
I think pubs will be a bit further down the list though than garden centres, small cafes, hair places, non essential shops etc.
The government will want to do it in small batches to see what the impact is after a couple of weeks. If the NHS is still.coping, then there will be more restrictions lifted.
As soon as the NHS cracks, things will either stay the same, or restrictions will be reintroduced.
Sadly, for the vulnerable, I think they're going to be asked to self isolate for six months.
My guess is by September things will be feeling more 'normal' but it really is a guessing game.
Algarve said:
I know this isn't politically correct... but how many people caught HIV that weren't personally to blame for catching it? you can't expect the world to spend billions trying to cure something that you caught through your own stupidity. And keep in mind it can only realistically be further passed on to someone equally stupid.
Its really not a realistic comparison. You aren't getting HIV from breathing on someone or being near them.
And yet the total spent on research is likely to be measured in the trillions globally. You can catch HIV through all sorts of what’s where you weren’t at fault. Great that you position it as stupidity, I’m assuming you still see it as a gay disease. Blood transfusion, sleep,with your long term girlfriend, who has cheated on you and caught it, there are many, many ways of catching it innocently. Its really not a realistic comparison. You aren't getting HIV from breathing on someone or being near them.
Anyway, all this is off topic. I’m still baffled that anyone can think that this is all going to go away in a few weeks and we’ll be back to normal. It’s Trump levels of idiocy. Even if we start to open things up it can’t be done all at once, or the work of the previous weeks / months will be undone almost instantly.
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