When will we be able to go to the pub again?

[Algarve]

unident said:

And yet the total spent on research is likely to be measured in the trillions globally. You can catch HIV through all sorts of what’s where you weren’t at fault. Great that you position it as stupidity, I’m assuming you still see it as a gay disease. Blood transfusion, sleep,with your long term girlfriend, who has cheated on you and caught it, there are many, many ways of catching it innocently.

I'd say you're not entirely blameless if you got it through unprotected sex with a long term partner. What % of people caught it through blood transfusions?

Aids just isn't a big problem for mankind. Corona is.

[unident]

Algarve said:

I'd say you're not entirely blameless if you got it through unprotected sex with a long term partner. What % of people caught it through blood transfusions?

Aids just isn't a big problem for mankind. Corona is.

You’ve snipped my answer because you don’t like a large chunk of what I’ve said. This is miles off topic.

AIDS is a huge issue in Africa and South / Central America. Read what I wrote about catching it off a partner. Your girlfriend / wife of many years cheats on you with someone who has HIV and you contract it and you see that as not being blameless. Strange world you live in.

Corona is a bit of mild flu for 80% of those who contract it. That’s it, so far. It could mutate, but it’s hardly an automatic death sentence currently. It’s easy to be flippant, you’re really just pretending one is worse than the other because one is able and quite likely to affect you right now, whereas the other is a bit more remote.

Edited by unident on Wednesday 15th April 22:34

[FredClogs]

Algarve said:

I'd say you're not entirely blameless if you got it through unprotected sex with a long term partner. What % of people caught it through blood transfusions?

Aids just isn't a big problem for mankind. Corona is.

Or isn't, I mean we have to wait l, 19 people used the Excell arena over the Easter weekend and it looks like we might be through the peak... Could all be rather embarrassing for the doom mongers.

[Megaflow]

Robertj21a said:

Megaflow said:

For everybody saying it will be July/mid summer at the earliest. The government only announced 12 weeks of furlough, which takes us to the 23th June as the person from Greene King said. Unless they extend that, which given that is all China had, seems unlikely, anything beyond that means most pubs and bars will be out of business very quickly.

So, having said that, why not try and put a fking positive on this st situation and look forward to pubs hopefully open in late June, instead of being so depressing and claiming pubs are going to open until September at the absolute earliest!

Probably because most people who have been following the medical updates will know that pubs reopening by June is extremely unlikely. If there's a small, phased, return to 'ordinary' work it's not going to happen until at least mid-late May and they will want to see how that works in practice before there's any question of opening up any of those establishments where people routinely congregate. Cafes, restaurants, football etc are surely going to be left until September, at the earliest ?

I have been reading the medical updates as well. The global infection rate currently stands at 0.029%, and the global death rate at 0.0019%. Based on global population of 7bn, when in actual fact it is near 8bn.

The average number of deaths per day for England and Wales over the last ten years is 1440 per day. We simple cannot continue to screw the economy beyond May.

[unident]

Megaflow said:

I have been reading the medical updates as well. The global infection rate currently stands at 0.029%, and the global death rate at 0.0019%. Based on global population of 7bn, when in actual fact it is near 8bn.

The average number of deaths per day for England and Wales over the last ten years is 1440 per day. We simple cannot continue to screw the economy beyond May.

I agree with you on that, we really shouldn’t have done it t all based on the stats we’ve seen and are seeing, but we have. That’s why I don’t see things getting back to normal any time soon. I think there’s a fear of this mutating, but it’s purely a thought with zero evidence to back it up. I can’t see the government saying “right, we’ve done a great job absolutely trashing the economy and scaring try living hell out of everyone, but it’s all OK now. Nothing to see here, move along and everyone back to work on your crowded trains taking you to your crowded offices in crowded cities.”

It’s just highly unlikely that it’s going to happen that way and pubs are guaranteed to be packed to the rafters the moment they open up.

[Algarve]

unident said:

You’ve snipped my answer because you don’t like a large chunk of what I’ve said.

I've snipped to keep out the irrelevant stuff and make it readable. I don't understand which part you think I've snipped because I don't like it?

[anonymous-user]

Algarve said:

I'd say you're not entirely blameless if you got it through unprotected sex with a long term partner. What % of people caught it through blood transfusions?

Aids just isn't a big problem for mankind. Corona is.

You claim that people who catch AIDS via sex with their long term partner are ‘not entirely blameless’?

Are you completely insane?

In what world do people wear condoms in order to have sex with a man/woman they have been with for 5, 10, 20 years?

I’ve never heard such crap.

[Algarve]

If I get it from my mrs who caught it from the postman then perhaps I should have been a bit more careful in my selection of mrs in the first place. Either way its not in the same league as Corona, where you can catch it by shaking hands with the milkman.

[PurpleTurtle]

unident said:

Algarve said:

I'd say you're not entirely blameless if you got it through unprotected sex with a long term partner. What % of people caught it through blood transfusions?

Aids just isn't a big problem for mankind. Corona is.

You’ve snipped my answer because you don’t like a large chunk of what I’ve said. This is miles off topic.

AIDS is a huge issue in Africa and South / Central America. Read what I wrote about catching it off a partner. Your girlfriend / wife of many years cheats on you with someone who has HIV and you contract it and you see that as not being blameless. Strange world you live in.

Corona is a bit of mild flu for 80% of those who contract it. That’s it, so far. It could mutate, but it’s hardly an automatic death sentence currently. It’s easy to be flippant, you’re really just pretending one is worse than the other because one is able and quite likely to affect you right now, whereas the other is a bit more remote.

Edited by unident on Wednesday 15th April 22:34

Are you still here flogging this dead horse?

I lived through the height of the HIV era and didn't die of ignorance. If you didn't have unprotected (usually anal) sex, didn't share needles and weren't a tiny portion of the population who unwittingly had a transfusion of infected blood then you were OK. That is why the world didn't go into a global shutdown over it.

To try to make out that it was some way riskier than what we are currently experiencing is frankly stupid. You didn't risk getting AIDS on a trip to the shops.

[unident]

PurpleTurtle said:

Are you still here flogging this dead horse?

I lived through the height of the HIV era and didn't die of ignorance. If you didn't have unprotected (usually anal) sex, didn't share needles and weren't a tiny portion of the population who unwittingly had a transfusion of infected blood then you were OK. That is why the world didn't go into a global shutdown over it.

To try to make out that it was some way riskier than what we are currently experiencing is frankly stupid. You didn't risk getting AIDS on a trip to the shops.

That was never the original point I was making. The point I was making was that if you remember the coverage HIV got it was the end of the world and we were all going to die of it within a matter of months. The fact that someone has since made some outlandish comments about it being a minor irrelevant disease only caught by those who deserved it has taken it off in a different direction. Must remember that apparently this is why, according to him, it won’t have billions spent on it to try to find a cure. The fact the spend is most likely in the trillions since the 1980s is still eluding him, as he doesn’t want it to be true.

Edited by unident on Thursday 16th April 01:45

[unident]

Algarve said:

I've snipped to keep out the irrelevant stuff and make it readable. I don't understand which part you think I've snipped because I don't like it?

The answer to your bit in bold, so here’s a link that you can ignore as well and that’s only since 2000, so there was 15 years before that to count somewhere as well.

http://www.healthdata.org/news-release/first-long-...

Algarve said:

I know this isn't politically correct... but how many people caught HIV that weren't personally to blame for catching it? you can't expect the world to spend billions trying to cure something that you caught through your own stupidity. And keep in mind it can only realistically be further passed on to someone equally stupid.

Its really not a realistic comparison. You aren't getting HIV from breathing on someone or being near them.

[Algarve]

I've no idea how much was spent trying to find a cure for it. Its pretty much irrelevant either way... HIV/aids will be nothing more than a footnote in the history of humans when all is said and done. You pretty much had to try to catch it.

[otherman]

unident said:

Anyway, all this is off topic. I’m still baffled that anyone can think that this is all going to go away in a few weeks and we’ll be back to normal. It’s Trump levels of idiocy. Even if we start to open things up it can’t be done all at once, or the work of the previous weeks / months will be undone almost instantly.

We see a lot of people saying June. I saw one a few pages back saying sometime in 2022 if you're talking about full Friday night in the pub with no restrictions.
It's going to be a long time. How long we don't know, but long.

[kambites]

Algarve said:

HIV/aids will be nothing more than a footnote in the history of humans when all is said and done.

As will Covid 19. Covid 19 is far more interesting at a socio-economic level than a medical one but even that will quickly be forgotten by all but historians .

Edited by kambites on Thursday 16th April 07:51

[anonymous-user]

kambites said:

As will covid 19.

SARS 3 is the one to worry about.

[kambites]

Thesprucegoose said:

kambites said:

As will covid 19.

SARS 3 is the one to worry about.

If anything is going to really cause major health problems for the human race I think it'll be bacterial not viral.

[Seti]

vixen1700 said:

Miss the local, looking at this picture it was March 19th.

Looks Suspiciously like the Red Lion...my second local.

[anonymous-user]

This looks like fun

[Shnozz]

Sambucket said:

This looks like fun

Looks like any other Wetherspoons to my eye.

[NDA]

Hippea said:

All the talk about lifting restrictions and a phased return but let’s talk about the important stuff....

What are your predictions to when we will be able to go to the pub on a busy Friday night again without any restrictions?

I’m going to go with mid September for pubs open as normal

I think there are a significant number of people who will have a viral phobia after the lockdown - and for good reason. There is no cure on the horizon and it's a highly contagious potential killer. Therefore heading down to the pub will not be something they will want to do... Will this have an impact on pubs if there are fewer customers?