Ghosts

[carlove]

I normally think of ghost sightings logically, the building I work is apparently haunted (an large 3 storey house now converted into an office) , the receptionists certainly think so. One of the receptionist showed me a video of a ghost banging something, it was a lorry driving past.

Last week though I’m in the office alone due to home working and out of nowhere this creepy old music box tune starts playing. The radio is turned off at the wall and it didn’t come from my phone or PC, that really gave me the heebeegeebees, then I hear someone knocking at the door... the door upstairs. Nobody is upstairs and nobody could get upstairs without me seeing them, which rules out an office prank. And it was a knock not a random clunk (there is random clunkes periodically but I put that down to pipes)

I couldn’t logic my way out of that, I’ve concluded I share my office with a ghost, but I think it’s friendly as it’s not attacked me yet. Reception say it’s an old lady who died here when it used to be a house.

[smn159]

eharding said:

liner33 said:

Fwiw the CofE don’t offer exorcisms you need a Catholic priest for that and even then not all offer it . We had a local Monk do ours

It seems the CofE Deliverance Ministry will do one for you provided the Bishop signs off on it - it's very telling that they work closely with psychologists and other mental health professionals when dealing with people seeking their services.

Could be lucrative for them if they provided exorcists with basic plumbing skills, in the unlikely event that a cold room is not due to it being haunted by the ghost of Auntie Mabel.

[thewarlock]

BT Summers said:

I don't know, but I would doubt it.

What I do know is that people should stfu if they don't know what they are talking about.

Are you claiming to understand what happened?

Do you know what you're talking about?

[TwigtheWonderkid]

carlove said:

Reception say it’s an old lady who died here when it used to be a house.

Care homes and ICUs must be overrunning with ghosts.

[Robbo 27]

thewarlock said:

BT Summers said:

I don't know, but I would doubt it.

What I do know is that people should stfu if they don't know what they are talking about.

Are you claiming to understand what happened?

Do you know what you're talking about?

If you read his comment you will see that he knows what happened but not that he understands what happened, people can form their own opinion, as was said earlier.


This didn't happen to me but to my sister who stopped at a pub in Derbyshire for lunch, went upstairs for a pee, as she was was washing her hands she was aware that a girl of about 8 was watching her, she said hello. She started talking to the girl and the girl spoke back although my sister noticed that she wasn't replying directly. The girl was in a long brown dress and looked very ordinary. The girl said that her father was the landlord. My sister went downstairs and said to the landlord that she had just met his daughter, you would have a job came the reply, she is in Edinburgh. he asked what she looked like. He said to his wife, 'she has seen Mary'. He said to my sister 'Mary died in a fire at the pub in the 1880s.'

Edited by Robbo 27 on Thursday 8th April 15:37

[thewarlock]

Robbo 27 said:

thewarlock said:

BT Summers said:

I don't know, but I would doubt it.

What I do know is that people should stfu if they don't know what they are talking about.

Are you claiming to understand what happened?

Do you know what you're talking about?

If you read his comment you will see that he knows what happened but not that he understands what happened, people can form their own opinion, as was said earlier.

I read his comments, however he suggests that if you don't know what you're talking about, you should stfu.

There's a big difference between knowing what happened, and knowing what you're talking about.

I can't dispute the chilly room felt warmer, I wasn't there.

But none of us can explain why it happened, there's no evidence, so telling people with different ideas to stfu is pretty poor. If your idea requires protection from debate, it's probably a st idea.

[ApOrbital]

Calm down laaaa.

[Sticks.]

eharding said:

When it comes to ghosts, there are broadly three types of people. Firstly, the rational folk who understand it to be total bunkum.......

Does 'total bunkum' mean you're saying every person who has ever said they've experienced something paranormal is deluded or lying? Many yes, but all, that's improbable. If that's what you mean, dismissing it all as bunkum wouldn't be rational, just dismissive.

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Ghosts have a habit of appearing for people who are receptive to the idea of ghosts.

The recent posts on this thread don't seem to be from 'believers'.

[BT Summers]

thewarlock said:

Robbo 27 said:

thewarlock said:

BT Summers said:

I don't know, but I would doubt it.

What I do know is that people should stfu if they don't know what they are talking about.

Are you claiming to understand what happened?

Do you know what you're talking about?

If you read his comment you will see that he knows what happened but not that he understands what happened, people can form their own opinion, as was said earlier.

I read his comments, however he suggests that if you don't know what you're talking about, you should stfu.

There's a big difference between knowing what happened, and knowing what you're talking about.

I can't dispute the chilly room felt warmer, I wasn't there.

But none of us can explain why it happened, there's no evidence, so telling people with different ideas to stfu is pretty poor. If your idea requires protection from debate, it's probably a st idea.

I know what happened, I don't understand what happened.

What is annoying is when people say that it didn't happen or could not have happened because it is outside their experience or there must be a more logical explanation.

Not interested in debating anything thank you because you do not know of the situation as it was experienced,

All I have done is report a situation, form your own opinion.

I have nothing more to add, other than my religion does not believe in the existence of ghosts

Edited by BT Summers on Thursday 8th April 16:10

[paulguitar]

Sticks. said:

The recent posts on this thread don't seem to be from 'believers'.

Possibly true, but there is a suspiciously large amount of willingness to jump from not understanding something to letting it be explained by the supernatural, which is illogical. And conversations with children who died in fires centuries ago and similar urban legends are actually quite common, and often very similar, but never backed up by evidence.


Look at the very first post on this thread by the OP. He claimed a supernatural event he was involved in was recorded on CCTV and claimed to have watched the footage back. Later on in the thread, I asked if we could see the CCTV. OP has vanished, of course.

[eharding]

Robbo 27 said:

If you read his comment you will see that he knows what happened but not that he understands what happened, people can form their own opinion, as was said earlier.


This didn't happen to me but to my sister who stopped at a pub in Derbyshire for lunch, went upstairs for a pee, as she was was washing her hands she was aware that a girl of about 8 was watching her, she said hello. She started talking to the girl and the girl spoke back although my sister noticed that she wasn't replying directly. The girl was in a long brown dress and looked very ordinary. The girl said that her father was the landlord. My sister went downstairs and said to the landlord that she had just met his daughter, you would have a job came the reply, she is in Edinburgh. he asked what she looked like. He said to his wife, 'she has seen Mary'. He said to my sister 'Mary died in a fire at the pub in the 1880s.'

Edited by Robbo 27 on Thursday 8th April 15:37

Where was this pub exactly? If my sister came back from the loo in a pub and said that the landlord had told her that she'd seen a ghost I think I'd remember the name of the place. Unless that sort of thing happens a lot in your family, of course - easy to lose track in that case.

Edited by eharding on Thursday 8th April 16:12

[anonymous-user]

My Dad used to work at the Vickers aircraft factory in Weybridge, next to the Brooklands race track. He worked night shift there and apparently it was quite common to see this one ghost walking about, always through one particular wall. The factory was bombed in the war and quite a few people died, then it was rebuilt so I don’t know if that had anything to do with it.

[conkerman]

paulguitar said:

Possibly true, but there is a suspiciously large amount of willingness to jump from not understanding something to letting it be explained by the supernatural, which is illogical. And conversations with children who died in fires centuries ago and similar urban legends are actually quite common, and often very similar, but never backed up by evidence.


Look at the very first post on this thread by the OP. He claimed a supernatural event he was involved in was recorded on CCTV and claimed to have watched the footage back. Later on in the thread, I asked if we could see the CCTV. OP has vanished, of course.

I remember that.

And the bloke who woke up at the same time to a spectral apparition, who bristled if I asked of he was a sleep walker or similar.

[smn159]

I'm always amazed at the amount of magical thinking that goes on in what is otherwise an advanced country

[paulguitar]

smn159 said:

I'm always amazed at the amount of magical thinking that goes on in what is otherwise an advanced country

I have a relative who's turned down the covid vaccine due to conspiracies but visits a medium to chat with the deceased.

[carlove]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

carlove said:

Reception say it’s an old lady who died here when it used to be a house.

Care homes and ICUs must be overrunning with ghosts.

I’ve always told them to stop being so daft, plus my ghost was clearly a child with a music box.
But that music box really bloody creeped me out, as I couldn’t use logic to explain it.

[Sheets Tabuer]

I've been experiencing odd going on, disturbed sleep for instance and waking up with the quilt on the floor, also strange smells throughout the house. Anyhow I decided to set a recorder up when I'm asleep to see if I can capture any goings on and to my surprise I did.

https://sleeptalkrecorder.com/share/Media4/2021040...

I'm no expert but I bet whatever has been making those sounds is the cause of all the other stuff.

[Who_Goes_Blue]

I come for the spooky stories
I leave due to the divs that have to tell everyone they dont like spooky stories

[Leftyechochamber]

Who_Goes_Blue said:

I come for the spooky stories
I leave due to the divs that have to tell everyone they dont like spooky stories

Yep, sums it up. I like to see the posts where the people who are more interested in the science side of things have genuinely baffling experiences, but they are sometimes subdued I think, due to some posters trying to stamp on the thread in general.

That in itself is very interesting behaviour indeed.

[eharding]

Leftyechochamber said:

Who_Goes_Blue said:

I come for the spooky stories
I leave due to the divs that have to tell everyone they dont like spooky stories

Yep, sums it up. I like to see the posts where the people who are more interested in the science side of things have genuinely baffling experiences, but they are sometimes subdued I think, due to some posters trying to stamp on the thread in general.

That in itself is very interesting behaviour indeed.

What's interesting is that - as has already been observed - when those recounting tales paranormal woo are asked some basic questions they tend to become either wildly defensive or just disappear without trace. The more paranormal the woo, the less likely they are to answer the questions anyway - for example our friend with the ghostly girl in the pub loo seems remarkably coy about the name or location of the establishment - something you'd probably remember if it wasn't just a fanciful rehash of a story heard elsewhere.