Ghosts

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smn159

12,680 posts

218 months

Sunday 2nd October 2022
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Douglas Quaid said:
Roofless Toothless said:
I’m not an atheist, rather an agnostic. Religion and atheism seem equally too ‘sure of themselves’ to me.

We live in a world where the cleverest of scientists haven’t got a clue what the majority of the universe is made of, and only this week a new fundamental force of nature has been discovered.

I don’t know how one or two of the posters on here can be so certain about their opinions.
Because they’re know it all aholes?
Or maybe because 'we don't yet understand x, therefore ghosts' is a ludicrous leap for anyone not desperate to believe in something with zero evidence.

paulguitar

23,477 posts

114 months

Sunday 2nd October 2022
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paulguitar said:
I have not read through the whole thread, but did we ever get to see the OP's original CCTV footage?

PPEhero said:
We watched it back on the CCTV and you could clearly see his chest moving in as if he had been pushed. His feet were dangling free at the side of the chair so there was no way he could of jumped so far back in the way he did. He refused to ever watch it back.

Edited by PPEhero on Wednesday 27th May 14:25
We're STILL waiting for the OP's CCTV footage on this thread...

MikeM6

5,008 posts

103 months

Sunday 2nd October 2022
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Douglas Quaid said:
Roofless Toothless said:
I’m not an atheist, rather an agnostic. Religion and atheism seem equally too ‘sure of themselves’ to me.

We live in a world where the cleverest of scientists haven’t got a clue what the majority of the universe is made of, and only this week a new fundamental force of nature has been discovered.

I don’t know how one or two of the posters on here can be so certain about their opinions.
Because they’re know it all aholes?
None of the things that are unknown go anyway to helping anyone justify the conclusion that any god or ghost would exist. Not sure if that makes me an ahole or not, but I guess there is not much I can do about that.

Crumpet

3,895 posts

181 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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cqueen said:
This guy has been filming the paranormal activity is his house over the last couple of years. It's quite freaky!

He's got loads of vids to watch, this one is pretty tame, have a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI1A4Y5id4E
Entertaining and interesting, but ultimately I can’t help thinking that’s all rigged. The shadows on the cameras just don’t look right at all.

sir humphrey appleby

1,623 posts

223 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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I think it was around 15 years ago, my wife and I stayed with some friends for the weekend, we slept in the loft conversion so at the top of the house obviously.
The house was a large 30's semi.

I woke up at 2am in the morning, and I swear on my kids life, there was an old lady putting clothes, towels or whatever in the chest of drawers on the other side of the room. Completely white, in some sort of white gown.
It scared the absolute life out of me, I shouted out, waked my wife up and of course the old woman had gone. Didn't sleep properly after that, and of course it raised a laugh in the morning.

It is the only time that something like that has happened. I'll never forget it.

Koyaanisqatsi

2,291 posts

31 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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My other half is into 'it' and has dragged me along to a few ghost hunting nights. I'm a 100% non-believer / sceptic and will always look to come up with a rational explanation and don't get scared of much at all. I could happily walk through a village churchyard in the middle of the night, stand in the pitch black corridor of a Tudor house in silence, go down into a dark quiet cellar and 'call out' for spirits and so on, but when they start pulling out their phones with spirit-hunting and ouija board apps etc. it all gets a bit silly and hysterical in my opinion, but I don't seek to ruin their night (which they've each paid £45 for) by telling them it's all a load of tosh. When the 20 or 25 of participants on these ghost hunting nights hear a noise they immediately take it as categorical proof that a ghost is present and no amount of reasoning from me (such as it being a creaking timber in a 500 year old manor house) will get through to them.

Anyway, the only completely unexplained and bizarre thing I've been close to was when I was younger. I shared a room with my brother, and my two sisters (8 and 11 then) shared a room with twin beds next door. In the middle of the night they began screaming at the same time. Parents ran into their room to find out what was going on, my dad took one sister downstairs where it was still all warm from the open fire and asked her what happened. She described the same as what my other sister described (who was still upstairs still with my mum), that a lady in a full length white dress was sitting on the edge of the futon thing in their room and when they began shrieking and screaming, she disappeared.

shakotan

10,709 posts

197 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Every single ghost encounter video can be explained away as being faked.

Why aren't there more ghost animals? Ghost dinosaurs? Ghost cavemen? Why are all ghosts apparently from the last couple of centuries? And why aren't they EVERYWHERE, not just mostly at night in creepy old buildings. Given the sheer number of people who have died since humans have existed, statistically there should be millions of ghosts.

Koyaanisqatsi

2,291 posts

31 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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shakotan said:
Every single ghost encounter video can be explained away as being faked.

Why aren't there more ghost animals? Ghost dinosaurs? Ghost cavemen? Why are all ghosts apparently from the last couple of centuries? And why aren't they EVERYWHERE, not just mostly at night in creepy old buildings. Given the sheer number of people who have died since humans have existed, statistically there should be millions of ghosts.
Yep, I've tried to raise all this at the ghost hunting nights, but it's a futile argument when it's 25 against 1 laugh

Invariably a 'grey lady' or child spirit will always 'come through' and they'll somehow collectively decide that the building we're in was built on the site of a Victorian mental asylum or Leper hospital or something.

vikingaero

10,364 posts

170 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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Koyaanisqatsi said:
shakotan said:
Every single ghost encounter video can be explained away as being faked.

Why aren't there more ghost animals? Ghost dinosaurs? Ghost cavemen? Why are all ghosts apparently from the last couple of centuries? And why aren't they EVERYWHERE, not just mostly at night in creepy old buildings. Given the sheer number of people who have died since humans have existed, statistically there should be millions of ghosts.
Yep, I've tried to raise all this at the ghost hunting nights, but it's a futile argument when it's 25 against 1 laugh

Invariably a 'grey lady' or child spirit will always 'come through' and they'll somehow collectively decide that the building we're in was built on the site of a Victorian mental asylum or Leper hospital or something.
We have iPhone 14's and Samsung S22's with millions of pixel cameras yet all photos seem to be of yesteryear (optical reflection/refraction/illusion?)

Koyaanisqatsi

2,291 posts

31 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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vikingaero said:
Koyaanisqatsi said:
shakotan said:
Every single ghost encounter video can be explained away as being faked.

Why aren't there more ghost animals? Ghost dinosaurs? Ghost cavemen? Why are all ghosts apparently from the last couple of centuries? And why aren't they EVERYWHERE, not just mostly at night in creepy old buildings. Given the sheer number of people who have died since humans have existed, statistically there should be millions of ghosts.
Yep, I've tried to raise all this at the ghost hunting nights, but it's a futile argument when it's 25 against 1 laugh

Invariably a 'grey lady' or child spirit will always 'come through' and they'll somehow collectively decide that the building we're in was built on the site of a Victorian mental asylum or Leper hospital or something.
We have iPhone 14's and Samsung S22's with millions of pixel cameras yet all photos seem to be of yesteryear (optical reflection/refraction/illusion?)
Don't forget those pesky orbs.

mark_1974

354 posts

22 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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We went "Ghost hunting" at Penzance youth hostel, a beautiful old Georgina mansion. We were booked to stay overnight as part of the event.

As we were checking in, a woman who was part of the ghost hunting group that arranged it asked what room we were staying in, so I told her what room we'd been given - I think it was Room 7 but it was a long time ago. That was the most haunted room in the building she told us. Right...

So we go to the room, and discover that it used to be a big square room, that was now split into 2 with a plasterboard partition, separate door (Room 8 if we were in room 7) etc.

So we gather downstairs for the nights entertainment and I have a chance to speak to the woman again, mention that she'd said room 7 was the most haunted in the building, and asked about room 8. Apparently room 8 wasn't very active at all - Since when have ghosts known about plasterboard partitions?

We spent the night and didn't see, hear or feel anything unexplained, either as part of the event, or while sleeping in the extremely haunted room 7...


TwigtheWonderkid

43,402 posts

151 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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sir humphrey appleby said:
I woke up at 2am in the morning, and I swear on my kids life, there was an old lady putting clothes, towels or whatever in the chest of drawers on the other side of the room. Completely white, in some sort of white gown.
Can I respectfully suggest that immediately upon waking up at 2am is not a great time to be providing a reliable witness statement. If you were called to give evidence in a court of law, and you stated you'd witnesses the accused doing something as you woke up at 2am, I think the defence council would rip you apart.

Was the room well lit? Have you ever woken up before and not been sure where you are? Do you think you perform at your best immediately upon waking up in the early hours? Etc etc.

usn90

1,419 posts

71 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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sir humphrey appleby said:
I think it was around 15 years ago, my wife and I stayed with some friends for the weekend, we slept in the loft conversion so at the top of the house obviously.
The house was a large 30's semi.

I woke up at 2am in the morning, and I swear on my kids life, there was an old lady putting clothes, towels or whatever in the chest of drawers on the other side of the room. Completely white, in some sort of white gown.
It scared the absolute life out of me, I shouted out, waked my wife up and of course the old woman had gone. Didn't sleep properly after that, and of course it raised a laugh in the morning.

It is the only time that something like that has happened. I'll never forget it.
This gave me a chuckle, don’t suppose you remember what it was you shouted at 2 in the morning whilst a guest in someone’s house do you?

djohnson

3,435 posts

224 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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shakotan said:
Every single ghost encounter video can be explained away as being faked.

Why aren't there more ghost animals? Ghost dinosaurs? Ghost cavemen? Why are all ghosts apparently from the last couple of centuries? And why aren't they EVERYWHERE, not just mostly at night in creepy old buildings. Given the sheer number of people who have died since humans have existed, statistically there should be millions of ghosts.
Indeed, it’s also odd that so many of these stories seem to involve periods of history or types of people whereby they dress is well known. It’s always Romans or Victorians or monks but everyone knows what they looked like. You never hear a ghost story in which someone is trying to describe a 4th century peasant girl and of course virtually no one knows what they looked like.

goldar

550 posts

23 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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I was 6 or 7 and we (my family) were visiting other family in the Scottish Highlands one winter. It was a pretty old house and a bit run down. I remember going to bed in a freezing cold room and struggling to get to sleep. I woke up half way through the night saw the window was open, so I closed it and went to the toilet. When I came back the window was open again. Closed it once again and went back to bed. Then it happened... I heard a humming coming from somewhere. It went on for some time. I eventually got out of bed and went to investigate. There was a figure outside dressed in red. It wasn't walking so much as floating. As I gazed at it it turned to face me, everything went quiet and the air around me turned ice cold. I couldn't look away. I screamed and my dad came running into my room to beat me with a set of jumper cables. Christmas has never been the same since then.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,402 posts

151 months

Monday 3rd October 2022
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djohnson said:
shakotan said:
Every single ghost encounter video can be explained away as being faked.

Why aren't there more ghost animals? Ghost dinosaurs? Ghost cavemen? Why are all ghosts apparently from the last couple of centuries? And why aren't they EVERYWHERE, not just mostly at night in creepy old buildings. Given the sheer number of people who have died since humans have existed, statistically there should be millions of ghosts.
Indeed, it’s also odd that so many of these stories seem to involve periods of history or types of people whereby they dress is well known. It’s always Romans or Victorians or monks but everyone knows what they looked like. You never hear a ghost story in which someone is trying to describe a 4th century peasant girl and of course virtually no one knows what they looked like.
No teddy boy ghosts, no mods & rocker ghosts, no skinhead ghosts, no punk ghosts.

gazzarose

1,162 posts

134 months

Wednesday 5th October 2022
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
djohnson said:
shakotan said:
Every single ghost encounter video can be explained away as being faked.

Why aren't there more ghost animals? Ghost dinosaurs? Ghost cavemen? Why are all ghosts apparently from the last couple of centuries? And why aren't they EVERYWHERE, not just mostly at night in creepy old buildings. Given the sheer number of people who have died since humans have existed, statistically there should be millions of ghosts.
Indeed, it’s also odd that so many of these stories seem to involve periods of history or types of people whereby they dress is well known. It’s always Romans or Victorians or monks but everyone knows what they looked like. You never hear a ghost story in which someone is trying to describe a 4th century peasant girl and of course virtually no one knows what they looked like.
No teddy boy ghosts, no mods & rocker ghosts, no skinhead ghosts, no punk ghosts.
I've often wondered the same, but the BBC comedy series 'Ghosts' does have a Caveman, a mediaeval and gradually more recent ones.

If it's as they say, tortured souls, that turn into ghosts, then there have been plenty of wronged people and animals. I'm not a believer, but I'm also not saying I don't occasionally get spooked by things in the dark, but my logical brain tells me it's just shadows or reflections. It's difficult not to get your heart pumping though when waking up bleary eyed in the middle of the night and the dressing gown on the back of the door is processed as a ghostly figure. The spike in adrenaline that makes it difficult for me to get back to sleep though, rather than the fear.

James6112

4,382 posts

29 months

Monday 16th January 2023
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I do
A few years after we sold our first house.. I told my wife that i’d seen an old lady sitting at the foot of our bed, looking into a mirror. She’d seen the same.. A relative lived nearby & was chatting to the new owners a few years later. They said it was haunted, they had seen an old lady…

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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About a year ago I moved into an apartment in an early 1800s building. Immediately started having awful nightmares of evil spirits trying to get in and me yelling at them to fk off.

Googled my address, and up popped a photo of my bedroom window and the title was ‘ghosts’!

Seems my building was built on the site of a medieval nunnery graveyard, that was later used as a plague pit in the 1700s.

Skeletons found during building work. Lots of them.

The nightmares have stopped (for the most part) but do I go down into the (labyrinthine) cellars at night (where the washing machine is)? Absofkinglutly not.

Electronicpants

2,644 posts

189 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rva-H3EWEA


I'm with Billy Connolly on this one. A lifetime of TV, film etc put this crap into your head and, admittedly, for reasons unknown, your brain can do some pretty remarkable things convincing you that you can see things.