Ghosts

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Lefty

16,161 posts

203 months

Wednesday 10th January
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My son did staff like that when he was little. He was full of very detailed stories about “when he was a farmer” and “when he was here before”. They were all stories about the tractors he had and such like. Very entertaining. I think his nursery teacher got a bit freaked out over it. hehe

Sticks.

8,767 posts

252 months

Wednesday 10th January
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You'd have to go back to the place your son mentioned and ask if there had every been a Marjorie, wouldn't you?


DannyScene

6,631 posts

156 months

Wednesday 10th January
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rovermorris999 said:
That's more like it! Thanks for posting, I love to hear stories like this. As you say, almost certainly nothing but fun to hear about.
There was a thread for strange coincidences and weird stories like this I was enjoying but I cant find it now, should've bookmarked it

Elderly

3,497 posts

239 months

Wednesday 10th January
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My wife and I both witnessed a real ‘manifestation’.

It’s too long a story to set out the circumstances,
but we left the living room to see a guest out of our flat
and when we returned to the room a few moments later
a long thick black wavy line had appeared on the white wall above the piano.

It still showed slightly after I’d painted over it
and the cat would then often sit and stare at that place on the wall
(from either side).




OzzyR1

5,735 posts

233 months

Wednesday 10th January
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DannyScene said:
rovermorris999 said:
That's more like it! Thanks for posting, I love to hear stories like this. As you say, almost certainly nothing but fun to hear about.
There was a thread for strange coincidences and weird stories like this I was enjoying but I cant find it now, should've bookmarked it
Was it this one?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...


DannyScene

6,631 posts

156 months

Wednesday 10th January
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OzzyR1 said:
That's the one, Cheers mate!

Racing rabbit

140 posts

139 months

Wednesday 10th January
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My dog passed away last March. We still see him in the house.
The day after he was cremated, when I went downstairs in the morning, I saw his fluffy white tail dissappear into the dining room.
We both still see him in various rooms round the house.

When he was alive we had one of those wooden paw print shaped Christmas decorations. I had bought a new one with angel wings to go on the tree last year. On what would have been his birthday, I found the old one that had been in a bag in my office, on the landing where he liked to sleep.
It's most likely it was one of our other dogs ferreting about and dropped it, but they'd never showed any interest in it before.

droopsnoot

11,961 posts

243 months

Wednesday 10th January
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evenflow said:
droopsnoot said:
legless said:
I told my wife about this when we got home and she asked him about it. He looked wistful and said "It doesn't matter. I'm not Marjorie any more because I got too old. I'm with you and Daddy now"
Now I'm trying to remember what it is that I've either read or watched recently that talks about people having previous lives, and only really being able to remember any of them when they're young kids because the "current" consciousness drowns out the previous ones once the personality starts to develop. That's going to bug me now.
"Surviving Death" on Netflix?
No, I found it, it's in a novel I read called "The Devil's Elixir" by Raymond Khoury. A child appears to have memories that they can't possibly have. A summary of the bit is "kids who claim to remember past lives start talking about them at a very young age, sometimes as soon as they can speak, saying things they shouldn't know about, details they can't know, and they're often more articulate than usual. Then the memories fade out by the time they're six or seven, because more current memories crowd them out."

I've no idea whether that bit is based on any kind of research or anything, it's just a piece in a book that rang a bell with me. The novel itself is about a drug baron who's searching out new and different recreational drugs in tribes in South America, and believes that the soul of a chemist who knows how to make a really strong one is now living in the son of an FBI agent, who happens to be the person who shot the chemist in the first place.

Genuine Barn Find

5,786 posts

216 months

Wednesday 10th January
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Elderly said:
My wife and I both witnessed a real ‘manifestation’.

a long thick black wavy line had appeared on the white wall above the piano.

It still showed slightly after I’d painted over it
and the cat would then often sit and stare at that place on the wall
(from either side).

All i’m seeing here is a cat continuing to admire its work after it jumped up on the piano and wiped its tea towel holder across the wall….

siovey

1,646 posts

139 months

Wednesday 10th January
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"If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say"

Portia5

564 posts

24 months

Wednesday 10th January
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Have we had 'phantom pain' yet?

Where an amputee suffers (sometimes agonising) pain in a non-existent limb.

How, rationally or scientifically, can you have agonising pain in a non-existent body part?

2xChevrons

3,216 posts

81 months

Wednesday 10th January
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Portia5 said:
Have we had 'phantom pain' yet?

Where an amputee suffers (sometimes agonising) pain in a non-existent limb.

How, rationally or scientifically, can you have agonising pain in a non-existent body part?
The scientific/medical explanation for phantom pain is the remaining nerves and neural paths in the spinal cord/brain stem that were connected to the (now missing) limb cranking up their sensitivity because they no longer detect any sensations. So your basic neural/nervous system responds by making those nerves over-sensitive and eventually just flooding them with pain signals because the system figures 'something must be really wrong'.

That's like the difference between ghosts explained as paranormal manifestations of the dead and ghosts explained as psychological and sensory phenomena.

As the latter 'ghosts' definitely exist - every human culture in recorded history has the notion of ghosts. Our brains are unreliable interpreters and are primed to sense a) danger and b) other humans. So add in known and broadly understood factors like pareidolia, false memory, peripheral vision sensitivity, sleep paralysis, waking dreams
infrasound, carbon monoxide poisoning, hallucinations, and plain old 'seeing what you want or expect to see' and you get the phenomenon of 'ghosts'.

They are, in that sense and that alone, real.




Pitre

4,591 posts

235 months

Wednesday 10th January
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TL:DR. but in my humble opinion ghosts are as believable as the pink sky fairy that plenty of deluded people use as a crutch.
Bless 'em, live and let live...

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Thursday 11th January
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Might have mentioned this before, but when I moved into my apartment, ground floor of a 200 year old mansion block, I got the most horrific nightmares. I googled my address and the first hit that came up was a pic of my bedroom window and an article about ghosts.

Apparently the mansion block is built on what was a very old nunnery and exactly over the nunnery cemetery that became a plague pit in the 1600s.

No more nightmares, no ghosts but do I venture down into the maze of cellars after midnight? Nope.

extraT

1,763 posts

151 months

Thursday 11th January
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Portia5 said:
Have we had 'phantom pain' yet?

Where an amputee suffers (sometimes agonising) pain in a non-existent limb.

How, rationally or scientifically, can you have agonising pain in a non-existent body part?
House knows it exists… https://youtu.be/CEIGx-Cab2k?si=2R5Mv0WOviVNp0C5

rovermorris999

5,203 posts

190 months

Thursday 11th January
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DannyScene said:
There was a thread for strange coincidences and weird stories like this I was enjoying but I cant find it now, should've bookmarked it
If you like weird/scary real-life stories check out MrBallen (sic) on youtube. The 'Missing 411' series are good, some genuinely head-scratching cases of people disappearing in the USA.

dukeboy749r

2,656 posts

211 months

Thursday 11th January
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Ayahuasca said:
Might have mentioned this before, but when I moved into my apartment, ground floor of a 200 year old mansion block, I got the most horrific nightmares. I googled my address and the first hit that came up was a pic of my bedroom window and an article about ghosts.

Apparently the mansion block is built on what was a very old nunnery and exactly over the nunnery cemetery that became a plague pit in the 1600s.

No more nightmares, no ghosts but do I venture down into the maze of cellars after midnight? Nope.
The school I went to in Yately had a supposed tunnel between it and a nearby (ish) church.

The basement, used for modelling club, etc, after school, led to the entrance to 'a' tunnel.

I never developed the interest, nor appropriately sized balls to venture far enough to see where any tunnel went.

Some places are best left alone at age 8.

M5-911

1,349 posts

46 months

Thursday 11th January
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dukeboy749r said:
The school I went to in Yately had a supposed tunnel between it and a nearby (ish) church.

The basement, used for modelling club, etc, after school, led to the entrance to 'a' tunnel.

I never developed the interest, nor appropriately sized balls to venture far enough to see where any tunnel went.

Some places are best left alone at age 8.
Do you believe in something?


DannyScene

6,631 posts

156 months

Thursday 11th January
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rovermorris999 said:
DannyScene said:
There was a thread for strange coincidences and weird stories like this I was enjoying but I cant find it now, should've bookmarked it
If you like weird/scary real-life stories check out MrBallen (sic) on youtube. The 'Missing 411' series are good, some genuinely head-scratching cases of people disappearing in the USA.
Big fan of Mrballen I've been subscribed for a few years now!

fiatpower

3,045 posts

172 months

Thursday 11th January
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Lefty said:
My son did staff like that when he was little. He was full of very detailed stories about “when he was a farmer” and “when he was here before”. They were all stories about the tractors he had and such like. Very entertaining. I think his nursery teacher got a bit freaked out over it. hehe
I used to do that when I was little apparently. Once went past a cemetery (i'd not been told what one of them was by this time..) and I just out of the blue declared that was where they dug me up from. I was also terrified by the thought of being set on fire with me adding "again" to the end of sentences like that. My aunty was sure i'd died in a fire in a past life.

More recently where I used to work has a number of tunnels underground as the place was used as a factory during WW2. A number are used for store rooms etc now. There's one tunnel which has had numerous reports of ghosts and no one even the roughest maintenance person will go in there alone.