Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 5]

Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 5]

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kowalski655

14,640 posts

143 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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At least we arent at US levels (yet)

akirk

5,390 posts

114 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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Dr Jekyll said:
Halmyre said:
So if I'm reading it properly, it's how close to the common ancestor the one in the earliest generation is that governs what kind of cousin both ways.

That means that if my great grandfather is some else's great great grandfather we are each others second cousins but once removed, and any descendants they have are still second cousins.
It is really easy…
as I posted above…

draw up the hierarchy
take the person who is furthest up the tree and work out cousin level down from the common ancestor (eg 2nd cousin)
then count down levels to the one furthest from the common ancestor- three levels down = 3rd removed etc

the only exception is where the higher person on the tree is son / daughter of the common ancestor and then you are into great-great nephew / niece etc instead of cousins

Clockwork Cupcake

74,549 posts

272 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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DRFC1879 said:
The whole thing could (and IMO should) be sorted by ditching our FPtP system in favour of some form of proportional representation. Yes, that would mean if particularly unpleasant parties like UKIP win say 15% of the popular vote they'd have 15% of the house but that's true democracy.
I can't agree. If we did that then every election would result in either a hung parliament or a coalition.

Sway

26,275 posts

194 months

Thursday 10th June 2021
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
DRFC1879 said:
The whole thing could (and IMO should) be sorted by ditching our FPtP system in favour of some form of proportional representation. Yes, that would mean if particularly unpleasant parties like UKIP win say 15% of the popular vote they'd have 15% of the house but that's true democracy.
I can't agree. If we did that then every election would result in either a hung parliament or a coalition.
Agreed. There are certain nations which have done OK with that approach.

However, I'd suggest that the UK would not be one of them.

The problem always is, it gives kingmaker power to a party with a relatively tiny share of the vote.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Can you hire bikes and just leave them anywhere?

https://www.earthcam.com/world/england/london/abbe...

There is a bike (well, there was as 06.38) across the road, just seems to be abandoned?

Do they have a tracker, or summat, on them?

Edited by The Mad Monk on Friday 11th June 07:41

Composer62

1,651 posts

86 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Sway said:
Agreed. There are certain nations which have done OK with that approach.

However, I'd suggest that the UK would not be one of them.

The problem always is, it gives kingmaker power to a party with a relatively tiny share of the vote.
As in the Scottish parliament with the Green Party.

Abbott

2,390 posts

203 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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The Mad Monk said:
Can you hire bikes and just leave them antwhere?

https://www.earthcam.com/world/england/london/abbe...

There is a bike (well, there was as 06.38) across the road, just seems to be abandoned?

Do they have a tracker, or summat, on them?
Boris bikes and the Parisien Velib bikes, when you have finished with them, have to be parked in a docking station otherwise you keep getting charged for them. Other bikes do not require that and can and are left anywhere. When they were 1st used in Paris it was a nightmare. Same as the scooter hire, there were so many bikes and scooters discarded all over the place it was a mess and dangerous. The city brought in regulations and specific places they could be left.

captain_cynic

11,998 posts

95 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
DRFC1879 said:
The whole thing could (and IMO should) be sorted by ditching our FPtP system in favour of some form of proportional representation. Yes, that would mean if particularly unpleasant parties like UKIP win say 15% of the popular vote they'd have 15% of the house but that's true democracy.
I can't agree. If we did that then every election would result in either a hung parliament or a coalition.
Is that a bad thing?

It forces parties to negotiate rather than letting one side rule by fiat for 5 years.

Personally I'd go for Instant Runoff Voting where you mark your preferences in order rather than just ticking one box.

HappyMidget

6,788 posts

115 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Abbott said:
The Mad Monk said:
Can you hire bikes and just leave them antwhere?

https://www.earthcam.com/world/england/london/abbe...

There is a bike (well, there was as 06.38) across the road, just seems to be abandoned?

Do they have a tracker, or summat, on them?
Boris bikes and the Parisien Velib bikes, when you have finished with them, have to be parked in a docking station otherwise you keep getting charged for them. Other bikes do not require that and can and are left anywhere. When they were 1st used in Paris it was a nightmare. Same as the scooter hire, there were so many bikes and scooters discarded all over the place it was a mess and dangerous. The city brought in regulations and specific places they could be left.
If you don't return a Boris bike you actually get charged for the bike, not just continuous hire. This was to stop what happened in Paris happening here apparently.

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
I can't agree. If we did that then every election would result in either a hung parliament or a coalition.
Sounds brilliant.

Abbott

2,390 posts

203 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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HappyMidget said:
Abbott said:
The Mad Monk said:
Can you hire bikes and just leave them antwhere?

https://www.earthcam.com/world/england/london/abbe...

There is a bike (well, there was as 06.38) across the road, just seems to be abandoned?

Do they have a tracker, or summat, on them?
Boris bikes and the Parisien Velib bikes, when you have finished with them, have to be parked in a docking station otherwise you keep getting charged for them. Other bikes do not require that and can and are left anywhere. When they were 1st used in Paris it was a nightmare. Same as the scooter hire, there were so many bikes and scooters discarded all over the place it was a mess and dangerous. The city brought in regulations and specific places they could be left.
If you don't return a Boris bike you actually get charged for the bike, not just continuous hire. This was to stop what happened in Paris happening here apparently.
The Paris problem did not start until the market was opened up to companies that did not rely on docking stations.

HappyMidget

6,788 posts

115 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Abbott said:
The Paris problem did not start until the market was opened up to companies that did not rely on docking stations.
I only found out the other day from this thread https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

softtop said:
Solutioned the 'Boris Bikes' initial system. We had no idea how successful it would be so we had to make guesses as to storage and capacity. This was back in the day when Cloud services were new and ramp up meant going out and buying more storage.

Part of the solution was risk mitigation and how we could avoid the Paris model of loads of bikes a week ending up in the Seine. We automatically charged the credit card for the cost of a bike if it went missing. Hardly any did. Result!


Look at it now.

Halmyre

11,194 posts

139 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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akirk said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Halmyre said:
So if I'm reading it properly, it's how close to the common ancestor the one in the earliest generation is that governs what kind of cousin both ways.

That means that if my great grandfather is some else's great great grandfather we are each others second cousins but once removed, and any descendants they have are still second cousins.
It is really easy…
as I posted above…

draw up the hierarchy
take the person who is furthest up the tree and work out cousin level down from the common ancestor (eg 2nd cousin)
then count down levels to the one furthest from the common ancestor- three levels down = 3rd removed etc

the only exception is where the higher person on the tree is son / daughter of the common ancestor and then you are into great-great nephew / niece etc instead of cousins
One anomaly is you have parents, and aunts/uncles, but then it's grandparents and great aunts and uncles, and then great-grandparents and great-great aunts and uncles. Grand-uncle and aunt is used by some, just to further confuse the issue.

Doofus

25,817 posts

173 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Halmyre said:
akirk said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Halmyre said:
So if I'm reading it properly, it's how close to the common ancestor the one in the earliest generation is that governs what kind of cousin both ways.

That means that if my great grandfather is some else's great great grandfather we are each others second cousins but once removed, and any descendants they have are still second cousins.
It is really easy…
as I posted above…

draw up the hierarchy
take the person who is furthest up the tree and work out cousin level down from the common ancestor (eg 2nd cousin)
then count down levels to the one furthest from the common ancestor- three levels down = 3rd removed etc

the only exception is where the higher person on the tree is son / daughter of the common ancestor and then you are into great-great nephew / niece etc instead of cousins
One anomaly is you have parents, and aunts/uncles, but then it's grandparents and great aunts and uncles, and then great-grandparents and great-great aunts and uncles. Grand-uncle and aunt is used by some, just to further confuse the issue.
All we really need to know is what's ok genetically, and what's ok legally.

V8mate

45,899 posts

189 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Doofus said:
All we really need to know is what's ok genetically, and what's ok legally.
Shagging your wife's mother and sister is always the safest ground laugh

ambuletz

10,735 posts

181 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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I don't think anyone can answer this but... why do people who you've never met (but have mutual friends on facebook) send you friend requests?

In the past afew weeks I've had several people send me friend requests. I've no idea who they are and I've never met them before...however they are real people because they're mutual friends with 1-2 people I know. They've even been in photos of the people i know. They aren't fake accounts either. To reasoning behind it.

Very. very. Odd.

Clockwork Cupcake

74,549 posts

272 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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ambuletz said:
I don't think anyone can answer this but... why do people who you've never met (but have mutual friends on facebook) send you friend requests?

In the past afew weeks I've had several people send me friend requests. I've no idea who they are and I've never met them before...however they are real people because they're mutual friends with 1-2 people I know. They've even been in photos of the people i know. They aren't fake accounts either. To reasoning behind it.

Very. very. Odd.
Different people use Facebook in different ways. I bet that if you look at the requester's profile they will have thousands (or at least high hundreds) of "friends" [sic] and that they're just the kind of person who thinks that friends of friends should be friends.

I agree it's odd though.


Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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Doofus said:
Halmyre said:
akirk said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Halmyre said:
So if I'm reading it properly, it's how close to the common ancestor the one in the earliest generation is that governs what kind of cousin both ways.

That means that if my great grandfather is some else's great great grandfather we are each others second cousins but once removed, and any descendants they have are still second cousins.
It is really easy…
as I posted above…

draw up the hierarchy
take the person who is furthest up the tree and work out cousin level down from the common ancestor (eg 2nd cousin)
then count down levels to the one furthest from the common ancestor- three levels down = 3rd removed etc

the only exception is where the higher person on the tree is son / daughter of the common ancestor and then you are into great-great nephew / niece etc instead of cousins
One anomaly is you have parents, and aunts/uncles, but then it's grandparents and great aunts and uncles, and then great-grandparents and great-great aunts and uncles. Grand-uncle and aunt is used by some, just to further confuse the issue.
All we really need to know is what's ok genetically, and what's ok legally.
Marrying and/or shagging cousins is legal...

Doofus

25,817 posts

173 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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Can vegans drive cars, given petrol and diesel comes from oil, which contains dead animals?

captain_cynic

11,998 posts

95 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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Doofus said:
Can vegans drive cars, given petrol and diesel comes from oil, which contains dead animals?
I tell vegans that their preaching and whinging is a huge source of animal suffering.