Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 5]

Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 5]

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Evoluzione

10,345 posts

244 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Doofus said:
Evoluzione said:
Doofus said:
Evoluzione said:
It isn't your bodies fault that you choose to sleep lying down, the fault lies in your brain.
I just wonder why, after all this time, the brain and the body haven't come up with a better solution.
The clue lies in your name biggrin
You're funny.
And by your own admission you're a Doofus, although I might add, a very rude Doofus.

You asked the question and got answers, you don't seem to have read and digested them, not offered a word of thanks.

Doofus

25,963 posts

174 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Evoluzione said:
And by your own admission you're a Doofus, although I might add, a very rude Doofus.

You asked the question and got answers, you don't seem to have read and digested them, not offered a word of thanks.
Thank you sorry sorry thank you. I have read, and digested the answers I was given. Including the insults. I'm not sure why you think I didn't.

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

244 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Doofus said:
Evoluzione said:
And by your own admission you're a Doofus, although I might add, a very rude Doofus.

You asked the question and got answers, you don't seem to have read and digested them, nor offered a word of thanks.
Thank you sorry sorry thank you. I have read, and digested the answers I was given. Including the insults. I'm not sure why you think I didn't.
Your answers tell me that, you were still asking the same question.

Doofus

25,963 posts

174 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Evoluzione said:
Your answers tell me that, you were still asking the same question.
Not really. I was acknowledging the answer given saying why I felt it didn't provide the whole answer.

I don't care any more, though..



AstonZagato

12,728 posts

211 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
All those foreigners, coming over here doing the jobs that most British people don't want to do, of doing s better job on those that they do, paying their taxes, and being better citizens than some natives because, for them as immigrants, being in the UK is a privilege not a right.

Shocking.
But I think that is one of the advantages of an ID card. It stops people complaining about illegal immigrants getting access to free healthcare/schooling/benefits/housing/whatever. No ID card, no access. The reality will be that there aren't many affected, as most will have a legal right to remain. But no-one can moan any longer and one continual trope goes away. (And if there is a genuine problem, then that gets sorted by it too).

glazbagun

14,288 posts

198 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Has the trope died in countries with ID cards?

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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AstonZagato said:
But I think that is one of the advantages of an ID card. It stops people complaining about illegal immigrants getting access to free healthcare/schooling/benefits/housing/whatever. No ID card, no access. The reality will be that there aren't many affected, as most will have a legal right to remain. But no-one can moan any longer and one continual trope goes away. (And if there is a genuine problem, then that gets sorted by it too).
So we've all got to carry around a piece of plastic so that people who aren't entitled to benefits anyway will continue to not be entitled to benefits in order that people who think they are claiming benefits they aren't able to claim will know that they can't be claiming them because they still aren't able to.

I think I preferred Blair's justification of 'it'll be useful if you want to rent a video'.

coppernorks

1,919 posts

47 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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glazbagun said:
Has the trope died in countries with ID cards?
Germany, Belgium, Portugal, Poland and Spain have managed to make it work.

Although I suspect past wartime occupations and past military coups have a lot to do with the public's
acceptance of the policy of compulsory ID carrying, Britain having never been invaded and all that.

Plymo

1,152 posts

90 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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coppernorks said:
glazbagun said:
Has the trope died in countries with ID cards?
Germany, Belgium, Portugal, Poland and Spain have managed to make it work.

Although I suspect past wartime occupations and past military coups have a lot to do with the public's
acceptance of the policy of compulsory ID carrying, Britain having never been invaded and all that.
IIRC in Portugal you have to have it on you at all times and can be fined of you don't!
Even in Germany although it's not a crime to not have one with you, if you can't prove your identity the police can hold you until they have ascertained you are who you say you are!
In France though there's nothing like that, but they do have paper ID cards (issued by the town hall I think) that can be used instead of passports to certain countries - including the UK though that may have changed now

Lily the Pink

5,783 posts

171 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Plymo said:
IIRC in Portugal you have to have it on you at all times and can be fined of you don't!
Even in Germany although it's not a crime to not have one with you, if you can't prove your identity the police can hold you until they have ascertained you are who you say you are!
This is what bugs me - it smacks of guilty until proved innocent rather than vice versa. Same as the "if you have nothing to hide" argument.

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

244 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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glazbagun said:
Did the Egyptians actually sleep on these or only when they were dead?

I would say they were for use with the dead as they don't look too comfortable!. Funeral directors have similar things, when your head is kept up it stops your mouth from falling open.

coppernorks

1,919 posts

47 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Lily the Pink said:
This is what bugs me - it smacks of guilty until proved innocent rather than vice versa.
Same as the "if you have nothing to hide" argument.
I feel you're not a fan of law enforcement in general and police in particular, you read The Guardian ?

Halmyre

11,244 posts

140 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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AstonZagato said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
All those foreigners, coming over here doing the jobs that most British people don't want to do, of doing s better job on those that they do, paying their taxes, and being better citizens than some natives because, for them as immigrants, being in the UK is a privilege not a right.

Shocking.
But I think that is one of the advantages of an ID card. It stops people complaining about illegal immigrants getting access to free healthcare/schooling/benefits/housing/whatever. No ID card, no access. The reality will be that there aren't many affected, as most will have a legal right to remain. But no-one can moan any longer and one continual trope goes away. (And if there is a genuine problem, then that gets sorted by it too).
I'll be damned if I'm going to carry a card just to keep some miserable s happy.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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glazbagun said:
Did the egyptians actually sleep on these or only when they were dead?

Ah, was just listening to a podcast on this the other day. If that's a neck support thing, It's thought that they used them in stead of head pillows to keep their fancy hairdo in tact.


Lily the Pink

5,783 posts

171 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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coppernorks said:
Lily the Pink said:
This is what bugs me - it smacks of guilty until proved innocent rather than vice versa.
Same as the "if you have nothing to hide" argument.
I feel you're not a fan of law enforcement in general and police in particular, you read The Guardian ?
You need to recalibrate your feelings. I am in favour of law enforcement and I can think of no circumstances in which I would choose to read the Guardian.
I take it that you're happy to be considered guilty until proven innocent ?

dumfriesdave

384 posts

138 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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popeyewhite said:
Crikey, what's the story behind that?
This was a complication of an illness I suffer with... Crohn's Disease.
Intenstine had become totally blocked, and started swelling outward.
I had surgery for this twice previously, therefore the skin area was a weak point and eventually forced open.
Picture taken and then off to A and E.
Was only there for around 10 minutes when it all started to burst open. Not a pretty sight.

Rostfritt

3,098 posts

152 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Plymo said:
IIRC in Portugal you have to have it on you at all times and can be fined of you don't!
Even in Germany although it's not a crime to not have one with you, if you can't prove your identity the police can hold you until they have ascertained you are who you say you are!
In France though there's nothing like that, but they do have paper ID cards (issued by the town hall I think) that can be used instead of passports to certain countries - including the UK though that may have changed now
Can't our police do the same anyway, or does it depend on them having some reason to suspect you of something?

It does sound like ID cards are a solution in search of a problem.

Pit Pony

8,731 posts

122 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Ayahuasca said:
What prevents an engine running backwards?

Not as in reverse, I mean as in the crankshaft moving clockwise when it should go anti-clockwise or vice versa.

Is is just the way it is spun on start-up ?

Can a normal engine be run the wrong way?
A 2 stroke engine with carbs ? Yes. Apparently, reverse was obtained by turning the starting handle the wrong way.

Cold

15,262 posts

91 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Lily the Pink said:
coppernorks said:
Lily the Pink said:
This is what bugs me - it smacks of guilty until proved innocent rather than vice versa.
Same as the "if you have nothing to hide" argument.
I feel you're not a fan of law enforcement in general and police in particular, you read The Guardian ?
You need to recalibrate your feelings. I am in favour of law enforcement and I can think of no circumstances in which I would choose to read the Guardian.
I take it that you're happy to be considered guilty until proven innocent ?
Indeed. You can be in favour of law enforcement yet still desire to be left alone by both the authorities and the state to continue a quiet enjoyment of life.

popeyewhite

20,030 posts

121 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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dumfriesdave said:
This was a complication of an illness I suffer with... Crohn's Disease.
Intenstine had become totally blocked, and started swelling outward.
I had surgery for this twice previously, therefore the skin area was a weak point and eventually forced open.
Picture taken and then off to A and E.
Was only there for around 10 minutes when it all started to burst open. Not a pretty sight.
I don't think people realise how nasty Crohn's can be. I certainly didn't, and when my ex-wife contacted me recently and it came out she'd been in hospital ICU facing an op to remove most of her lower intestines (?) I was shocked. Good luck.