Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 5]

[Johnspex]

Whenever I see a band I always think the drummer should get paid the most just because he seems to work harder than anyone else. Have you seen the size of Kenney Jones' arms?

I did see a Who tribute band once and the drummer looked and played like Keith Moon. At the end the singer said they had time for a couple more but the drummer couldn't go on because his arms hurt too much.

[glazbagun]

Johnspex said:

I'm just watching a 2 1/2 hour show by the Eagles.

How do the guitarists remember the chords, and to a lesser degree, how do they remember the words?
Except in Roger Daltrey's case as he has previous for forgetting lyrics.

Sometimes they'll write things down, but more often than not they've just practiced it to death.

[StevieBee]

Johnspex said:

Whenever I see a band I always think the drummer should get paid the most just because he seems to work harder than anyone else. Have you seen the size of Kenney Jones' arms?

I did see a Who tribute band once and the drummer looked and played like Keith Moon. At the end the singer said they had time for a couple more but the drummer couldn't go on because his arms hurt too much.

Mate of mine's a good friend of Russ Gilbrook who's drummed with a fair few names in the past but for the past 10 years has been Uriah Heep's drummer. Went to see them at The Waterfront in Norwich a few years ago and did the whole hand around after the show type thing. You're absolutely right in terms of physical exertion but I was also amazed at the amount of firewood around his kit. I reckon he must of got through a pair of sticks each song.

Couple of other things I learned...

These kits you see bolted to scaffold with two bass drums and a million other drums and cymbals.... It's all for show. Most of them never get touched during a gig.

Those banks of amps you see at rock gigs at the back of the stage.... empty boxes. The sound comes from just a few meaty speakers either side of the stage.

[nonsequitur]

Frank7 said:

Johnspex said:

I'm just watching a 2 1/2 hour show by the Eagles.

How do the guitarists remember the chords, and to a lesser degree, how do they remember the words?
Except in Roger Daltrey's case as he has previous for forgetting lyrics.

No idea about chords, but I’d guess that after singing, “Hotel California”, “Lyin’ Eyes”, and “Peaceful Easy Feeling” a gazillion times, in a thousand venues, the lyrics are hard to forget.
Plus if Glenn Frey forgot a line, Don Henley would have ploughed on, and Glenn could join in after.

10,000 hours of learning the instrument daily practice, focus and dedication would help with remembering chord sequences.

[vonuber]

LukeBrown66 said:

Why do road works guys dig a hole, put traffic measures in and then leave it for week? Happens all the time!

Quite likely they've encountered some buried utilities that weren't where they were supposed to be and have to wait for the provider to come and sort it out, which can take ages.

[bristolracer]

vonuber said:

LukeBrown66 said:

Why do road works guys dig a hole, put traffic measures in and then leave it for week? Happens all the time!

Quite likely they've encountered some buried utilities that weren't where they were supposed to be and have to wait for the provider to come and sort it out, which can take ages.

They are often contractors who only dig the hole on behalf of the utility company . It absolves the utility company of liability if damage were to happen to something else and also means they dont have to buy heavy plant and have staff certified for road works.
You probably wouldn't want some of the apes that dig roads working on your gas main or fibre optic cabling!

In the days when I worked for BT we had to track and mark a faulty cable and request a "dig". This was carried out by contractors, we would then attend, do the repair and notify the contractors we had finished. Sometimes you had to get others involved eg pole crews for replacing a pole or a team out to install a manhole. This would all take time waiting for everyone to do their bit. Sometimes the dig missed the cable and had to be done again.
Contractors used to paid per dig, hence back filling of the holes was often done with the spoil from the dig rather than with new scalpings. This is why newly repaired holes often sink creating potholes. One crew told me they had had the same scalpings on the truck for 2 weeks as their manager wouldn't let them use any more. Councils are supposed to monitor it, but there are thousands of small roadworks happening at one time so quality of repairs rarely gets picked up.

[vonuber]

Ah yes, that's true too - a term contractor coming along and just digging the hole.in anticipation.

The whole self certification that goes on with utilities, along with the complete lack of coordinated planning is just bonkers.

[Doofus]

Why, when I was younger, did the British news organisations add "The" to certain country names?

The Lebanon
The Ukraine

[MartG]

Doofus said:

Why, when I was younger, did the British news organisations add "The" to certain country names?

The Lebanon
The Ukraine

Because at the time they weren't countries but just regions ?

[Frank7]

Doofus said:

Why, when I was younger, did the British news organisations add "The" to certain country names?

The Lebanon
The Ukraine

Why do people do it with “the” Strand, or “the”
Old Kent Rd.?, no one says, The New Kent Rd.

[nonsequitur]

Frank7 said:

Doofus said:

Why, when I was younger, did the British news organisations add "The" to certain country names?

The Lebanon
The Ukraine

Why do people do it with “the” Strand, or “the”
Old Kent Rd.?, no one says, The New Kent Rd.

Not built yet.

[Frank7]

nonsequitur said:

Frank7 said:

Doofus said:

Why, when I was younger, did the British news organisations add "The" to certain country names?

The Lebanon
The Ukraine

Why do people do it with “the” Strand, or “the”
Old Kent Rd.?, no one says, The New Kent Rd.

Not built yet.

You know that you’re kidding nonseq, I know that you’re kidding, but for the benefit of the uninitiated, name the thoroughfare that runs directly from the Elephant and Castle to Bricklayers Arms, and leads via the flyover to Old Kent Road.

[nonsequitur]

Frank7 said:

nonsequitur said:

Frank7 said:

Doofus said:

Why, when I was younger, did the British news organisations add "The" to certain country names?

The Lebanon
The Ukraine

Why do people do it with “the” Strand, or “the”
Old Kent Rd.?, no one says, The New Kent Rd.

Not built yet.

You know that you’re kidding nonseq, I know that you’re kidding, but for the benefit of the uninitiated, name the thoroughfare that runs directly from the Elephant and Castle to Bricklayers Arms, and leads via the flyover to Old Kent Road.

Sorry Frank, don't know that one. But I do know it is a trunk road.

[davhill]

StevieBee said:

Mate of mine's a good friend of Russ Gilbrook who's drummed with a fair few names in the past but for the past 10 years has been Uriah Heep's drummer. Went to see them at The Waterfront in Norwich a few years ago and did the whole hand around after the show type thing. You're absolutely right in terms of physical exertion but I was also amazed at the amount of firewood around his kit. I reckon he must of got through a pair of sticks each song.

Couple of other things I learned...

These kits you see bolted to scaffold with two bass drums and a million other drums and cymbals.... It's all for show. Most of them never get touched during a gig.

Those banks of amps you see at rock gigs at the back of the stage.... empty boxes. The sound comes from just a few meaty speakers either side of the stage.

They do, however need the foldback monitors, the angled speakers that point back at the band from upstage. Without them, you can't hear what you're playing as the sound from behind swamps individual instruments.

[Hugo a Gogo]

Doofus said:

Why, when I was younger, did the British news organisations add "The" to certain country names?

The Lebanon
The Ukraine

All cleared up here

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-18233844

[Doofus]

Hugo a Gogo said:

Doofus said:

Why, when I was younger, did the British news organisations add "The" to certain country names?

The Lebanon
The Ukraine

All cleared up here

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-18233844

Thank you

Unlike most PHers, I did actually Google this before asking here, but I came up with nowt, so that's appreciated.

[Halmyre]

glazbagun said:

Johnspex said:

I'm just watching a 2 1/2 hour show by the Eagles.

How do the guitarists remember the chords, and to a lesser degree, how do they remember the words?
Except in Roger Daltrey's case as he has previous for forgetting lyrics.

Sometimes they'll write things down, but more often than not they've just practiced it to death.

I recall an interview with an ex-King Crimson member who remembers being stuck in a hotel room for twelve hours with Robert Fripp practising his cross-picking technique. That might be an extreme example.

[Hugo a Gogo]

Doofus said:

Thank you

Unlike most PHers, I did actually Google this before asking here, but I came up with nowt, so that's appreciated.

I remember reading it a while ago, and the little detail about 'The Gambia' and 'The Bahamas' being the only two official 'The' countries stuck in my Trivia Centre of my brain

[nonsequitur]

Halmyre said:

glazbagun said:

Johnspex said:

I'm just watching a 2 1/2 hour show by the Eagles.

How do the guitarists remember the chords, and to a lesser degree, how do they remember the words?
Except in Roger Daltrey's case as he has previous for forgetting lyrics.

Sometimes they'll write things down, but more often than not they've just practiced it to death.

I recall an interview with an ex-King Crimson member who remembers being stuck in a hotel room for twelve hours with Robert Fripp practising his cross-picking technique. That might be an extreme example.

Have just read a Jimi Hendrix biography. From his very first guitar as a youngster - with one string missing - he never missed an opportunity to play. Solo, in a band, jamming with any passing musicians, he was always writing songs for future albums, some released long after his death. Plus the endless tours when he would put all that practice in to perfection.

Towards the end though, he did get really fed up with playing 'Purple Haze'.

[glazbagun]

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