Honestly are you following lockdown rules?

Honestly are you following lockdown rules?

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fastraxx

8,308 posts

104 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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whitesocks said:
Just wear the bloody mask for fk sake
No

Pit Pony

8,655 posts

122 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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fastraxx said:
whitesocks said:
Just wear the bloody mask for fk sake
No
Then stay indoors and order your shopping on line.


fastraxx

8,308 posts

104 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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Pit Pony said:
Then stay indoors and order your shopping on line.
No I’m free to do as I wish

whitesocks

1,006 posts

47 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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fastraxx said:
No
Yes

Birdster

2,530 posts

144 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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Evolved said:
Cold said:
You should have stayed there for a bit longer. From Sunday morning the Canary Islands will be considered safe and quarantine will no longer be required.
Makes your situation seem a bit daft.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54650531
The whole situation seems daft and poorly thought out, full stop. The governments are just pulling rules out of their arses.

The use of police resource to go door to door checking on people is an absolute disgrace too and a complete waste of resource. Last year, we were told the government didn’t have two pennies to rub together and police on the street were lean due to cuts, yet this year they’re flush enough to send them knocking. Just making it up as they go along.
It does seem daft, but happy to do it because we don’t want the hassle/fine of not following isolation and even though we booked in January we wanted to still go ahead. My retired neighbours are shielding and I don’t think it would be fair to be out and about and it’s more about relations and just in case I guess. The conversation regarding our trip is an interesting one. People somehow think we’re magically at risk because we’ve been on a plane and in an airport. Some of these people work at warehouses, supermarkets or use public transport into London and happily go to restaurants and pubs here in the UK but a plane is a no no and they’re not at risk doing any of their other day to day activities. I think most of us generally align our risks and perceptions to what suits us.

Government advice is still essential travel only I believe? However because people don’t have to quarantine everyone’s booking to go now and flights are increasing in price.


Edited by Birdster on Friday 23 October 09:25

ClaphamGT3

11,307 posts

244 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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Leptons said:
That’ll be a great comfort to anyone who’s Van/tools/motor home/whatever has been nicked today.
Exactly right.

This is only one anecdote but it is illustrative of a weak and directionless Govt imposing as a knee-jerk stupid rules for stupid people

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

117 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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fastraxx said:
Pit Pony said:
Then stay indoors and order your shopping on line.
No I’m free to do as I wish
There is none so blind.... (Some Bible quote, very appropriate..)

Chicken_Satay

2,299 posts

205 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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I'm sort of following the rules but most of them are a complete and utter waste of time.

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

82 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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Petrolism said:
By definition of the word (Comes from Ancient Greek, meaning "All People"), we're definitely in a pandemic!!
So far, judging by W.H.O. figures of people who are registered as having died with Covid-19, were a total of 0.0139% of the world's population.
Mostly people with deficient immune systems, such as the very old, people with cancer, etc.

The news says so - so must be right! We must all wear masks and be afraid. Be very afraid!

0.0139% globally is not a Covid pandemic. It's a pandemic of public stupidity.
Yep

fastraxx

8,308 posts

104 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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nonsequitur said:
There is none so blind.... (Some Bible quote, very appropriate..)
You can call it that if you like, i will take my risks based on my life, thank you.

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

82 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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whitesocks said:
Just wear the bloody mask for fk sake
Not a single COVID death in a Somerset hospital since June. Not one, and just seven in care homes.

Once you have laws which make absolutely no sense then people start to lose confidence in the rule of law itself. There is no reason whatsoever for everyone in the county to wear a muzzle every time they go into a shop, none. Advise those who are vulnerable to do so, but that's surely all that is required .

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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SCEtoAUX said:
Not a single COVID death in a Somerset hospital since June. Not one, and just seven in care homes.

Once you have laws which make absolutely no sense then people start to lose confidence in the rule of law itself. There is no reason whatsoever for everyone in the county to wear a muzzle every time they go into a shop, none. Advise those who are vulnerable to do so, but that's surely all that is required .
yes

SturdyHSV

10,101 posts

168 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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SCEtoAUX said:
Not a single COVID death in a Somerset hospital since June. Not one, and just seven in care homes.

Once you have laws which make absolutely no sense then people start to lose confidence in the rule of law itself. There is no reason whatsoever for everyone in the county to wear a muzzle every time they go into a shop, none. Advise those who are vulnerable to do so, but that's surely all that is required .
People tend to think in terms of their own lives and context. That's perfectly normal and quite hard to avoid sadly.

So no deaths in Somerset, so people in Somerset shouldn't have to take any precautions. So the law should be different for Somerset (and similar places) right? But then the law would be ludicrously complicated and different every few miles, and people would ridicule the Government for having laws that make no sense.

But if they make them very simple, they're stuck making them to the lowest common denominator, meaning the rules are inappropriate for many people and they get ridiculed.

If they change the rules to keep up, they're seen as weak and knee-jerk, if they don't change them to keep them consistent, they're seen as ignorant to the facts and dim-witted.

The rules will seem stupid to many people because to that one person's life, they don't make sense. We seem to accept a fairly blanket speed limit without the suggestion each person should have their own or different limits based on accident rates in an area, why is that so OK?

TheFungle

4,076 posts

207 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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fastraxx said:
You can call it that if you like, i will take my risks based on my life, thank you.
Your acceptance of your risk could impact on someone else's life.

Is that fair?

Young lad at work decided he would visit his friends at Uni in Newcastle (just after their measures were announced several weeks ago).

Several days later he is feeling a bit under the weather, several days later again he decides to admit that he is showing CV19 symptoms.

Was his assessment of his risk fair to the rest of us?

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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TheFungle said:
fastraxx said:
You can call it that if you like, i will take my risks based on my life, thank you.
Your acceptance of your risk could impact on someone else's life.

Is that fair?

Young lad at work decided he would visit his friends at Uni in Newcastle (just after their measures were announced several weeks ago).

Several days later he is feeling a bit under the weather, several days later again he decides to admit that he is showing CV19 symptoms.

Was his assessment of his risk fair to the rest of us?
Two very different things.

Ignoring stupid government advice that really doesn’t affect others is sensible.

Ignoring symptoms and carrying on is just stupid.

fastraxx

8,308 posts

104 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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garyhun said:
Two very different things.

Ignoring stupid government advice that really doesn’t affect others is sensible.

Ignoring symptoms and carrying on is just stupid.
This, basically. He's getting all excited as he is too scared to make his own decisions.

fastraxx

8,308 posts

104 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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TheFungle said:
Your acceptance of your risk could impact on someone else's life.

Is that fair?

Young lad at work decided he would visit his friends at Uni in Newcastle (just after their measures were announced several weeks ago).

Several days later he is feeling a bit under the weather, several days later again he decides to admit that he is showing CV19 symptoms.

Was his assessment of his risk fair to the rest of us?
Actually, yes. Lots of things we do couple impact someone elses life, like driving quickly/dangerously. These people, imo, are likely to get COVID19 eventually anyway, so they might as well get it now. The vulnerable and elderly should be protected.

eskidavies

5,378 posts

160 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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No I travel through and work in every county that has been locked down in Wales,,last week I traveled from RCT to Llanelli,then Swansea,then Neath port Talbot,then Bridgend,and back home to RCT ,went in several houses in each county touched gas meter,cooker ,boiler ,hell I’ve even been to western super mare today working,,,I have got box fulls of gloves,masks,sanitizer,sink with warm water,and if need be ,paper suits force 8 masks which have been face fitted,

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

82 months

Friday 23rd October 2020
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SturdyHSV said:
People tend to think in terms of their own lives and context. That's perfectly normal and quite hard to avoid sadly.

So no deaths in Somerset, so people in Somerset shouldn't have to take any precautions. So the law should be different for Somerset (and similar places) right? But then the law would be ludicrously complicated and different every few miles, and people would ridicule the Government for having laws that make no sense.

But if they make them very simple, they're stuck making them to the lowest common denominator, meaning the rules are inappropriate for many people and they get ridiculed.

If they change the rules to keep up, they're seen as weak and knee-jerk, if they don't change them to keep them consistent, they're seen as ignorant to the facts and dim-witted.

The rules will seem stupid to many people because to that one person's life, they don't make sense. We seem to accept a fairly blanket speed limit without the suggestion each person should have their own or different limits based on accident rates in an area, why is that so OK?
They have a three tier system, there already different laws for different places. An additional first tier with very minor restrictions and no requirement for muzzles is not much to expect.

The country is divided into counties, so there borders are already there.

Are you seriously suggesting that in a county with the stats I posted, seven people shouldn't be able to sit together in a pub?