Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?
Discussion
pincher said:
Thanks - I know what a con trail is and how it works but try persuading someone that is convinced it is all about spraying us with mind-control, population-reducing, weather-altering* substances - it's very difficult. I was looking for something that takes each claim and deconstructs it to basics and basically calls it out for what it is.
*I'm aware that this is true to a certain extent
When you get down to the basics, it's pretty much impossible to prove that we aren't all being subjected to mind-controlling substances. Because, y'know, of the mind control.*I'm aware that this is true to a certain extent
captain_cynic said:
paulguitar said:
stitched said:
paulguitar said:
CarCrazyDad said:
I'm open to the possibility 9/11 was an inside job but suspect it was a horrific terrorist attack.
Why would you be open to that? There's zero evidence to support it.Personally I tend toward the horrific terrorist attack.
There are things we know happened, know the full story but enough mystery remains that we can imagine some wild things, like with MK Ultra, Iran/Contra.
Then you've got things that have unanswered questions that develop plausible but likely incorrect theories like the JFK assassination.
Then you've got completely implausible theories that are relatively harmless. Things like UFOs or Elvis being alive.
The "911 was an inside job"* is where we have left reality for the implausible and start to venture into wrong and dangerous territory. The kind of things that aren't just completely disproven but quite obviously wrong to begin with like COVID conspiracies, 5G, microships in vaccines. This is where we stop having fun and start having to deal with the terminally thick and gullable.
Finally we've got the worst kind, not just wrong and dangerous but motivated by hate. Here is where we meet the likes of Qanaon talking about secret Zionist cabals, pizzagate and holocaust denial.
This chart tends to focus on the anti-semetic but is a good example of the difference between harmless and dangerous CTers.
*Unless we're talking about the Porsche 911 in which case there is no way that isn't an inside job.
Edited by captain_cynic on Tuesday 10th May 12:17
t starts, that's where conspiracy theories start. Otherwise we could start saying hey particle physics is a conspiracy theory just because some actual CT depends upon some of it.DanL said:
Blown2CV said:
DanL said:
depends on your definition of thick. I would class below average intelligence as a bit thick, so assuming that this is in fact a totally normal distribution (you didn't state your source.....) it will be 50%. 
IQ does have some definitions for being smart and (politely) not so smart. An IQ if less than 85 means you’re not smart, all other things being equal. Being in the ~50% with an IQ of less than the average (100) doesn’t necessarily make you dim.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_classification
CarCrazyDad said:
Pistom said:
Blown2CV said:
CarCrazyDad said:
I guess a lot of people are a bit thick then
correct.deckster said:
pincher said:
Thanks - I know what a con trail is and how it works but try persuading someone that is convinced it is all about spraying us with mind-control, population-reducing, weather-altering* substances - it's very difficult. I was looking for something that takes each claim and deconstructs it to basics and basically calls it out for what it is.
*I'm aware that this is true to a certain extent
When you get down to the basics, it's pretty much impossible to prove that we aren't all being subjected to mind-controlling substances. Because, y'know, of the mind control.*I'm aware that this is true to a certain extent
deckster said:
pincher said:
Thanks - I know what a con trail is and how it works but try persuading someone that is convinced it is all about spraying us with mind-control, population-reducing, weather-altering* substances - it's very difficult. I was looking for something that takes each claim and deconstructs it to basics and basically calls it out for what it is.
*I'm aware that this is true to a certain extent
When you get down to the basics, it's pretty much impossible to prove that we aren't all being subjected to mind-controlling substances. Because, y'know, of the mind control.*I'm aware that this is true to a certain extent
Those who don't mostly just grumble apart from the odd minor protest..
Seems like a massive expense for not much result.
paulguitar said:
The linked article, not so much - I always feel that as soon as it says 'Conspiracy Theorists' or 'paranoid fantasy', it will antagonise the person that it is directed towards.That said, the sub-linked IOP Science article is bang-on what I was looking for.
Thanks
deckster said:
pincher said:
Thanks - I know what a con trail is and how it works but try persuading someone that is convinced it is all about spraying us with mind-control, population-reducing, weather-altering* substances - it's very difficult. I was looking for something that takes each claim and deconstructs it to basics and basically calls it out for what it is.
*I'm aware that this is true to a certain extent
When you get down to the basics, it's pretty much impossible to prove that we aren't all being subjected to mind-controlling substances. Because, y'know, of the mind control.*I'm aware that this is true to a certain extent
Blown2CV said:
how could you possibly get triggered by that? Firstly, it's an opinion. Secondly it didn't mention you specifically. Thirdly maybe it just implies some CarCrazyDad centric world where you assume people are out to get you... best hide!
Its ok, when you realise you were maybe wrong when certain things happen.Eg Great reset
Blown2CV said:
IQ was discredited as an intelligence measure decades ago. Unfortunately I did a degree in psychology before I realised that was pointless (apart from pub and forum superfluous chat) and went back and did something different.
That’s interesting - what replaced IQ as a measure? I assume something…DanL said:
Blown2CV said:
IQ was discredited as an intelligence measure decades ago. Unfortunately I did a degree in psychology before I realised that was pointless (apart from pub and forum superfluous chat) and went back and did something different.
That’s interesting - what replaced IQ as a measure? I assume something…To measure something, you first need to define what it is that you're measuring.
I'll let you go first
deckster said:
DanL said:
Blown2CV said:
IQ was discredited as an intelligence measure decades ago. Unfortunately I did a degree in psychology before I realised that was pointless (apart from pub and forum superfluous chat) and went back and did something different.
That’s interesting - what replaced IQ as a measure? I assume something…To measure something, you first need to define what it is that you're measuring.
I'll let you go first
It’s really tough having to bite your lip sometimes. I had this pic sent to me as ‘proof’ of nefarious chemtrail activity;
Despite the fact that Flightradar clearly shows it is a helicopter and that is actually says who it is owned by - Gridjet - who are, unsurprisingly, a terrain mapping company.
I just replied to say that I would probably be more concerned if they weren’t flying like that
Of course, I got no reply.
Despite the fact that Flightradar clearly shows it is a helicopter and that is actually says who it is owned by - Gridjet - who are, unsurprisingly, a terrain mapping company.
I just replied to say that I would probably be more concerned if they weren’t flying like that
Of course, I got no reply.
pincher said:
It’s really tough having to bite your lip sometimes. I had this pic sent to me as ‘proof’ of nefarious chemtrail activity;
Despite the fact that Flightradar clearly shows it is a helicopter and that is actually says who it is owned by - Gridjet - who are, unsurprisingly, a terrain mapping company.
I just replied to say that I would probably be more concerned if they weren’t flying like that
Of course, I got no reply.
You know what. I think you're part of the plan. Infiltrator!!!Despite the fact that Flightradar clearly shows it is a helicopter and that is actually says who it is owned by - Gridjet - who are, unsurprisingly, a terrain mapping company.
I just replied to say that I would probably be more concerned if they weren’t flying like that
Of course, I got no reply.
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