Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?
Discussion
Slagathore said:
andyeds1234 said:
Dear lord.
Of course it’s not a perfect system, but does the simple fact that papers get retracted not tell you something about the scientific review process??
When a YouTube video gets “retracted” it’s cancel culture, the truth seekers are being shut down, the most flack arrives when you are over the target etc etc etc.
You couldn’t make this stuff up.
Well, it makes me question who reviewed it in the first place that allowed it pass peer review. If they are experts in the field, why don't they spot the errors that, presumably, the other experts notice when it reaches a wider audience? Of course it’s not a perfect system, but does the simple fact that papers get retracted not tell you something about the scientific review process??
When a YouTube video gets “retracted” it’s cancel culture, the truth seekers are being shut down, the most flack arrives when you are over the target etc etc etc.
You couldn’t make this stuff up.
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/impactofsocialsciences/201...
I've no idea why you are likening it to Youtube or social media censoring, and your faux exasperation is not having the effect you think, it's just making you look desperate as opposed to trying to highlight I've said something terribly wrong.
Al Gorithum said:
An imbecile will probably be along shortly to point out some irony (that's only obvious to himself and other imbeciles).
You're splitting my sides! So funny! /sarcasm for the avoidance of doubt I'll take the compliment from you lot
Can't wait for the next CV of credentials to display to some random people on the Internet how amazing you are
/humble-brag(wonders why Alanis Morissette's Ironic had very few examples of irony)
Slagathore said:
andyeds1234 said:
Dear lord.
Of course it’s not a perfect system, but does the simple fact that papers get retracted not tell you something about the scientific review process??
When a YouTube video gets “retracted” it’s cancel culture, the truth seekers are being shut down, the most flack arrives when you are over the target etc etc etc.
You couldn’t make this stuff up.
Well, it makes me question who reviewed it in the first place that allowed it pass peer review. If they are experts in the field, why don't they spot the errors that, presumably, the other experts notice when it reaches a wider audience? Of course it’s not a perfect system, but does the simple fact that papers get retracted not tell you something about the scientific review process??
When a YouTube video gets “retracted” it’s cancel culture, the truth seekers are being shut down, the most flack arrives when you are over the target etc etc etc.
You couldn’t make this stuff up.
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/impactofsocialsciences/201...
I've no idea why you are likening it to Youtube or social media censoring, and your faux exasperation is not having the effect you think, it's just making you look desperate as opposed to trying to highlight I've said something terribly wrong.
PH Climate deniers love quoting from a particular outlet, The GWPF, that's a mouth piece for the oil industry and who conduct their own 'peer review' where they basically all mark each other's
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/b...
Al Gorithum said:
LF5335 said:
I can give an opinion.
Agreed. As per the old saying "opinions are like bum-holes; everybody has one".
Actually I disagree. Don't remember who coined it, but to paraphrase a wise person; "it's not necessary to have an opinion on everything". That's my motto nowadays
Gadgetmac said:
There's peer review and there's Peer Review.
PH Climate deniers love quoting from a particular outlet, The GWPF, that's a mouth piece for the oil industry and who conduct their own 'peer review' where they basically all mark each other'scards studies. These studies then get quoted on PH as bona fide peer reviewed.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/b...
Don’t both sides of the climate debate conduct pal review?PH Climate deniers love quoting from a particular outlet, The GWPF, that's a mouth piece for the oil industry and who conduct their own 'peer review' where they basically all mark each other's
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/b...
Aren’t government funded climate scientists funded by the government? Aren’t they just a mouthpiece for climate activists?
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Kawasicki said:
Gadgetmac said:
There's peer review and there's Peer Review.
PH Climate deniers love quoting from a particular outlet, The GWPF, that's a mouth piece for the oil industry and who conduct their own 'peer review' where they basically all mark each other'scards studies. These studies then get quoted on PH as bona fide peer reviewed.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/b...
Don’t both sides of the climate debate conduct pal review?PH Climate deniers love quoting from a particular outlet, The GWPF, that's a mouth piece for the oil industry and who conduct their own 'peer review' where they basically all mark each other's
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/b...
Aren’t government funded climate scientists funded by the government? Aren’t they just a mouthpiece for climate activists?
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Have they all independently reached the same conclusions on so many different topics?
WEF, Bill Gates, vaccines, Climate change, 15 minute cities, Covid, etc.
Why such a strong grouping of beliefs? surely independent research couldn’t draw them to reach exactly the same conclusions?
Kawasicki said:
Al Gorithum said:
From your bio I see you're chassis development engineer (a highly respected profession IMO) which I do have some (small) knowledge of (many moons ago I was trained at Optimum G) although that's not my day-job nowadays.
If someone such as Adrian Newey, Claude Ruelle, Damien Harty etc gave you their professional opinion on Chassis Dynamics, would you give that equal weight to anyone else with an opinion?
No, I would give their opinion more weight than someone with no expertise. I would still question it, though… if it was counter to my understanding I would very much enjoy getting to the bottom of any difference of opinion. This happens a LOT by the way.If someone such as Adrian Newey, Claude Ruelle, Damien Harty etc gave you their professional opinion on Chassis Dynamics, would you give that equal weight to anyone else with an opinion?
I can see the issue getting worse as people need to become more and more specialised as technology and science advances. You just can't know remotely much of anything about much. So you need to accept experts. They WILL know more than you. It appears CTs are people who can't do that.
ChevronB19 said:
How would you feel about Joe average telling you that your opinion of chassis dynamics is wrong, and it’s an absolute scandal?
If there were 200,000+ papers about chassis dynamics for Joe Average to look up, tens of thousands of which would be 'peer reviewed' where multiple papers were saying contradictory things, I probably wouldn't necessarily just blanket dismiss his opinion but perhaps look a little closer into what was actually being said........or at least I'd like to hope that I wouldn't...GroundEffect said:
Unreal said:
Colin Chapman had a degree in structural engineering. No qualifications in mechanical engineering or anything car related. He knew a bit about car design.
They're close enough for car design. He didn't design engines. That's the specialised bit of a car. ChevronB19 said:
How would you feel about Joe average telling you that your opinion of chassis dynamics is wrong, and it’s an absolute scandal?
I‘ve heard that a couple of times (well not the scandal bit). Doesn’t bother me at all. They are entitled to their own opinion and you can’t please everyone.Kawasicki said:
Gadgetmac said:
There's peer review and there's Peer Review.
PH Climate deniers love quoting from a particular outlet, The GWPF, that's a mouth piece for the oil industry and who conduct their own 'peer review' where they basically all mark each other'scards studies. These studies then get quoted on PH as bona fide peer reviewed.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/b...
Don’t both sides of the climate debate conduct pal review?PH Climate deniers love quoting from a particular outlet, The GWPF, that's a mouth piece for the oil industry and who conduct their own 'peer review' where they basically all mark each other's
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/b...
Aren’t government funded climate scientists funded by the government? Aren’t they just a mouthpiece for climate activists?
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Unreal said:
GroundEffect said:
Unreal said:
Colin Chapman had a degree in structural engineering. No qualifications in mechanical engineering or anything car related. He knew a bit about car design.
They're close enough for car design. He didn't design engines. That's the specialised bit of a car. captain_cynic said:
Kawasicki said:
Don’t both sides of the climate debate conduct pal review?
No. https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmichaels/2011/...
Unreal said:
GroundEffect said:
Unreal said:
Colin Chapman had a degree in structural engineering. No qualifications in mechanical engineering or anything car related. He knew a bit about car design.
They're close enough for car design. He didn't design engines. That's the specialised bit of a car. And you do know that the head of McDonald’s doesn’t flip burgers right?
Edited by andyeds1234 on Friday 17th March 06:05
Gadgetmac said:
Kawasicki said:
Gadgetmac said:
There's peer review and there's Peer Review.
PH Climate deniers love quoting from a particular outlet, The GWPF, that's a mouth piece for the oil industry and who conduct their own 'peer review' where they basically all mark each other'scards studies. These studies then get quoted on PH as bona fide peer reviewed.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/b...
Don’t both sides of the climate debate conduct pal review?PH Climate deniers love quoting from a particular outlet, The GWPF, that's a mouth piece for the oil industry and who conduct their own 'peer review' where they basically all mark each other's
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/b...
Aren’t government funded climate scientists funded by the government? Aren’t they just a mouthpiece for climate activists?
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hOpE tHiS hElPs
I would have thought that was self evident.
Kawasicki said:
captain_cynic said:
Kawasicki said:
Don’t both sides of the climate debate conduct pal review?
No. https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmichaels/2011/...
An opinion piece from a celeb rag is not proof.
Why do CTers seem unable to tell the difference between opinion and evidence.
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