Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?

Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?

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PurplePangolin

2,843 posts

33 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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PastelNata said:
Blib said:
I'm old, I'll be dead long before anything happens that would affect me. So, ultimately, I don't care either way, when it comes to the climate.

But come on. You don't need a 'conspiracy'. Everyone involved in this knows where the money is and how to get their bread buttered.

It is simply human nature.
Ah yes, the 'stuff everyone else' view of the World.

Have you not considered that the businesses who are the main drivers behind Global Warming in the first place have more to gain by continuing as they were than those trying to prevent it?

If you want to follow the money, follow it straight to those who don't want the gravy train to stop or tool up to adapt to greener practices. Greedy, selfish human nature.
No. Those businesses “behind” global warming have made your life comfortable. And those businesses will just adapt to make money off the green revolution.

The amount of greenwashing is astounding and we must be aware of what is actually going on. To think otherwise is naive and foolhardy.

cheesejunkie

2,608 posts

17 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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PurplePangolin said:
No. Those businesses “behind” global warming have made your life comfortable. And those businesses will just adapt to make money off the green revolution.

The amount of greenwashing is astounding and we must be aware of what is actually going on. To think otherwise is naive and foolhardy.
The amount of people being paid to advocate is something we should all be aware of.

Kawasicki

13,091 posts

235 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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Pro fossil & nuclear fuel NGOs are very lucratively funded! It’s a billion $ enterprise!


Cold

15,248 posts

90 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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Gadgetmac said:
Cold said:
Gadgetmac said:
Yes, global warming is and will continue to be a great boon for human health...said no Scientific Institute on the planet ever.
What are the numbers of Scientific Institutes who think that global cooling will be a great thing for human health?
There aren't any numbers for that as the world isn't cooling and has no likelihood of doing so. However considering the warnings published science is giving out over continued warming it's implicit that stability is the preferred scenario.
Why shouldn't it cool? It's done it before. Sounds a bit science denier.

But if stability is good and maybe it will stabilise for the first time ever, what temperature should it be? Pick a number.

AW111

9,674 posts

133 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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So we've had the COVIDiots parading their ignorance.

Now all the global warming conspiracy fkwits are having their say.

The answer to the thread title is still an overwhelming YES.

deckster

9,630 posts

255 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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AW111 said:
So we've had the COVIDiots parading their ignorance.

Now all the global warming conspiracy fkwits are having their say.

The answer to the thread title is still an overwhelming YES.
Plus, of course, they are by and large the same people. It's been shown many times that a propensity to believe one CT hugely increases your propensity to believe multiple.

Seventy

5,500 posts

138 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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robscot said:
I am voting 'yet' going off the replies to https://twitter.com/JacquiDeevoy1/status/163716344... !
Can someone with twitter please ask her if she exists?

I reckon she’s a bot.

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

260 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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Seventy said:
robscot said:
I am voting 'yet' going off the replies to https://twitter.com/JacquiDeevoy1/status/163716344... !
Can someone with twitter please ask her if she exists?

I reckon she’s a bot.
If she isn't real, someone's put a hell of a lot of effort into making it look like she is. And it appears there isn't a conspiracy she isn't prepared to believe in.

She's an anti-vaxxer and believes in astrology, too.

Nutty as a fruit-cake.

Edited by Zumbruk on Monday 20th March 11:53

PurplePangolin

2,843 posts

33 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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AW111 said:
So we've had the COVIDiots parading their ignorance.

Now all the global warming conspiracy fkwits are having their say.

The answer to the thread title is still an overwhelming YES.
Surely the thread title is a given and we know each posters view. We could just have a poll to clarify

No point in continuing with the thread - unless there are posts which question what is and what is not a conspiracy theory.

AW111

9,674 posts

133 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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PurplePangolin said:
Surely the thread title is a given and we know each posters view. We could just have a poll to clarify

No point in continuing with the thread - unless there are posts which question what is and what is not a conspiracy theory.
If I posted a YouTube vid claiming the moon was made of Wensleydale cheese and "they" were covering it up, you'd be the first to believe it...

Edited by AW111 on Monday 20th March 12:29

FredericRobinson

3,710 posts

232 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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cheesejunkie said:
The amount of people being paid to advocate is something we should all be aware of.
What is the number?

Seventy

5,500 posts

138 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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PurplePangolin said:
Surely the thread title is a given and we know each posters view. We could just have a poll to clarify

No point in continuing with the thread - unless there are posts which question what is and what is not a conspiracy theory.
Second time you’ve called for the thread to be closed.

It’s all rather like when you flounced as purplepenguin because you didn’t like the moderation.

Al Gorithum

3,721 posts

208 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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PurplePangolin said:
Surely the thread title is a given and we know each posters view. We could just have a poll to clarify

No point in continuing with the thread - unless there are posts which question what is and what is not a conspiracy theory.
Yes it is a given, but CTs don't realise that.

Besides if there was a poll, pretty sure that CT's would flood it to respond in a way that supports their world-view thus making it pointless.

remedy

1,649 posts

191 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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This morning I started listening to a James English podcast with David Weiss on flat earth. My god it was hard work but it made the walk to work enjoyable.
The amount of people in the comments siding with Weiss tells me enough about who James English seems to be appealing to now so I'll be unsubscribing soon.
However, the comments did steer me to this; professor Dave dismantling Weiss's arguments. It is so entertaining I just wish they had more time together, and a working IT system.

Please spare an hour.


Zumbruk

7,848 posts

260 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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remedy said:
This morning I started listening to a James English podcast with David Weiss on flat earth. My god it was hard work but it made the walk to work enjoyable.
The amount of people in the comments siding with Weiss tells me enough about who James English seems to be appealing to now so I'll be unsubscribing soon.
However, the comments did steer me to this; professor Dave dismantling Weiss's arguments. It is so entertaining I just wish they had more time together, and a working IT system.

Please spare an hour.

Dear God. I gave up after 5 minutes.

Seventy

5,500 posts

138 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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remedy said:
so I'll be unsubscribing soon.
nono

You can check out any time you like but can never leave.

Killer2005

19,651 posts

228 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_time_hypothe...

The phantom time hypothesis is a historical theory asserted by Heribert Illig. First published in 1991, it hypothesizes a conspiracy by the Holy Roman Emperor Otto III, Pope Sylvester II, and possibly the Byzantine Emperor Constantine VII,[further explanation needed] to fabricate the Anno Domini dating system retroactively, in order to place them at the special year of AD 1000, and to rewrite history[1] to legitimize Otto's claim to the Holy Roman Empire. Illig believed that this was achieved through the alteration, misrepresentation and forgery of documentary and physical evidence.[2] According to this scenario, the entire Carolingian period, including the figure of Charlemagne, is a fabrication, with a "phantom time" of 297 years (AD 614–911) added to the Early Middle Ages.

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PurplePangolin

2,843 posts

33 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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Seventy said:
PurplePangolin said:
Surely the thread title is a given and we know each posters view. We could just have a poll to clarify

No point in continuing with the thread - unless there are posts which question what is and what is not a conspiracy theory.
Second time you’ve called for the thread to be closed.

It’s all rather like when you flounced as purplepenguin because you didn’t like the moderation.
Still stalking me I see. Ya weirdo! wink

Edited by PurplePangolin on Monday 20th March 14:34

Gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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PurplePangolin said:
PastelNata said:
Blib said:
I'm old, I'll be dead long before anything happens that would affect me. So, ultimately, I don't care either way, when it comes to the climate.

But come on. You don't need a 'conspiracy'. Everyone involved in this knows where the money is and how to get their bread buttered.

It is simply human nature.
Ah yes, the 'stuff everyone else' view of the World.

Have you not considered that the businesses who are the main drivers behind Global Warming in the first place have more to gain by continuing as they were than those trying to prevent it?

If you want to follow the money, follow it straight to those who don't want the gravy train to stop or tool up to adapt to greener practices. Greedy, selfish human nature.
No. Those businesses “behind” global warming have made your life comfortable. And those businesses will just adapt to make money off the green revolution.

The amount of greenwashing is astounding and we must be aware of what is actually going on. To think otherwise is naive and foolhardy.
What's truly foolhardy is to ignore what the actual science community is telling you in favour of your own uneducated opinion.

Gadgetmac

14,984 posts

108 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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Cold said:
Why shouldn't it cool? It's done it before. Sounds a bit science denier.
laugh Why would it cool? What climate driver is going to kick-in to bring this about and when could we reasonably expect it to happen?

Show your workings or even some science to support your "why wouldn't it..." statement.

Cold said:
But if stability is good and maybe it will stabilise for the first time ever, what temperature should it be? Pick a number.
Crikey you really are dredging up the denier tropes now.

There is no one size fits all temperature but what we do know is that the human race has flourished at it's current temperature and now it's heating up.

Try this: https://mashable.com/article/what-is-earths-ideal-...

It's from an actual climate scientist but hey, don't let that put you off biggrin