Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?
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It’s a free world and choice. CTs just think in a different way, just not logical to me. Regarding vaccines there is always a risk of side effects, etc. There is no way to deliver a 100% safe vaccine. It’s just not possible to have a universal 100% safe vaccine. There I’ll be some individuals that react badly. If the risk of that happening is extremely low the vaccine should be offered.
CTs want 100% assurances or think there is an evil plan going on..
Maybe there is a plan but is not driven by evil but corporate profit. Maybe…
CTs want 100% assurances or think there is an evil plan going on..
Maybe there is a plan but is not driven by evil but corporate profit. Maybe…
GeneralBanter said:
DonkeyApple said:
And the riffraff who live 15 minutes away can't come in. 
I suspect whether one is a fan of the concept depends on which segment one lives in?
Oxford seems to have gone a bit OTT as an example but voter demographics mean they can just vote them out if desired.
However, after the next GE I suspect we'll see an uptick in local lunacy.
I suspect whether one is a fan of the concept depends on which segment one lives in?
Oxford seems to have gone a bit OTT as an example but voter demographics mean they can just vote them out if desired.
However, after the next GE I suspect we'll see an uptick in local lunacy.
How the rabid, anti car power base of local loons may look at the 2024 GE:
Hopefully by the second term the suburban electorates of these towns and cities will vote out the incumbent local powers because if they don't they will be running the whole of the U.K. by then. The devolved powers combined will dominate the Labour Party and they are absolute frothing loons.
And interestingly we have already seen who the London Mayor made us of the CT casserole to disarm legitimate questioning. Whether LTNs, 20s, ULEZ or any of their more extreme measures that could have benefited from social debate, they were pushed through, sometimes in the night! and when people asked questions the go to response was to show pictures of CT loons and imply that anyone who questioned their authority was an anti semite, racist nutbag.
The irony that CTs are just tools of the state on both levels is not lost. And too dumb to see they're a vegetable army of foot soldiers who just get pointed in any direction that free speech and intelligent discussion is to be stifled.
Edited by DonkeyApple on Tuesday 30th April 08:16
I don't get why this thread is allowed to persist by the mods. Its not a discussion. Its sniping at other threads from the sidelines then telling people to FRO if they challenge it. To be frank its pathetic. It's like playground bullies, slinging abuse at people then running behind the bike sheds to giggle about it.
GeneralBanter said:
CrgT16 said:
Maybe there is a plan but is not driven by evil but corporate profit. Maybe…
Nah. Just driven by an overwhelming desire to keep people alive and keep the country going in the face of an unprecedented threat. Just the same as any rational government I suppose. See also - fines on pharmaceutical companies.
PurplePenguin said:
GeneralBanter said:
CrgT16 said:
Maybe there is a plan but is not driven by evil but corporate profit. Maybe…
Nah. Just driven by an overwhelming desire to keep people alive and keep the country going in the face of an unprecedented threat. Just the same as any rational government I suppose. See also - fines on pharmaceutical companies.
Who_Goes_Blue said:
I don't get why this thread is allowed to persist by the mods. Its not a discussion. Its sniping at other threads from the sidelines then telling people to FRO if they challenge it. To be frank its pathetic. It's like playground bullies, slinging abuse at people then running behind the bike sheds to giggle about it.
I don't think anyone is running behind the bike sheds as everyone on here is more than happy to nail their flag to the mast. It also brings a bit of reality to balance the quite daft and unhinged nature of other threads.740EVTORQUES said:
People with phobias usually have the insight to recognise that their fears are irrational even if they lack the ability to overcome them. They also generally don’t try to recruit others into their phobia. In many cases they seek help for their problems rather than trying to strengthen their fear through validation from others.
CTs are not phobic, it’s far more damaging.
They try and enforce a world of absolutes through their thinking.CTs are not phobic, it’s far more damaging.
Who_Goes_Blue said:
I don't get why this thread is allowed to persist by the mods. Its not a discussion. Its sniping at other threads from the sidelines then telling people to FRO if they challenge it. To be frank its pathetic. It's like playground bullies, slinging abuse at people then running behind the bike sheds to giggle about it.
You're free to report it to the mods to have it reviewed. Killer2005 said:
Who_Goes_Blue said:
I don't get why this thread is allowed to persist by the mods. Its not a discussion. Its sniping at other threads from the sidelines then telling people to FRO if they challenge it. To be frank its pathetic. It's like playground bullies, slinging abuse at people then running behind the bike sheds to giggle about it.
You're free to report it to the mods to have it reviewed. 
Edited by swanny71 on Tuesday 30th April 09:24
Who_Goes_Blue said:
I don't get why this thread is allowed to persist by the mods. Its not a discussion. Its sniping at other threads from the sidelines then telling people to FRO if they challenge it. To be frank its pathetic. It's like playground bullies, slinging abuse at people then running behind the bike sheds to giggle about it.
Thus you try to bully the mods into removing it. Nice reverse ferret.Who_Goes_Blue said:
I don't get why this thread is allowed to persist by the mods. Its not a discussion. Its sniping at other threads from the sidelines then telling people to FRO if they challenge it. To be frank its pathetic. It's like playground bullies, slinging abuse at people then running behind the bike sheds to giggle about it.
no need to ask what side of the debate you are onGeneralBanter said:
PurplePenguin said:
GeneralBanter said:
CrgT16 said:
Maybe there is a plan but is not driven by evil but corporate profit. Maybe…
Nah. Just driven by an overwhelming desire to keep people alive and keep the country going in the face of an unprecedented threat. Just the same as any rational government I suppose. See also - fines on pharmaceutical companies.
PurplePenguin said:
Unfortunately we don’t have a rational government as evidenced by the sending of vulnerable people back into care homes.
See also - fines on pharmaceutical companies.
But that is a mantra that infects the debate. The home my parents are in were implementing protocols prior to Cheltenham festival and long before any Govt guidance. Why? Because it is professionally run by competent adults. See also - fines on pharmaceutical companies.
By simply blanket blaming a govt what we end up doing is absolving the incompetence and negligence of those who were in the front line and very precisely had a duty of care to act but chose to do nothing and await instructions from above.
To be honest, what Covid showed up very clearly in the U.K. is the vast number of 'leaders' who take money to lead but in reality aren't doing any leading at all and were shown up as nothing more than junior line managers on the grift but Covid. All of whom now seek to hide from their abject failures by blaming others.
We saw the same among head masters, some stepped up and proved they were exceptional leaders while others ran away and were revealed to be frauds who did nothing unless the govt forced them. That's not leading. That's 'only following orders'.
Covid revealed the extremely competent and the incompetent, the negligent, the frauds. The latter group all opting to rapidly blame anyone other than their own failings.
By blanket blaming the govt we tacitly absolve the tens of thousands of negligent and incompetent 'leaders' of their total failings and the carnage they wreaked in their wake.
And again the CT army of devotees do these people's bidding and protect them from what should have been the largest clear out and replacement of senior management across the U.K.
There’s a great CT thread elsewhere where OP has convinced himself that Govt want EV’s because they don’t want us to travel. Yes, apparently it’s all a ploy to keep us local and nothing to do with anything else.
He’s deleted the post but it’s been quoted so he wants mods to delete the thread. Got to be a classic.
He’s deleted the post but it’s been quoted so he wants mods to delete the thread. Got to be a classic.
GeneralBanter said:
There’s a great CT thread elsewhere where OP has convinced himself that Govt want EV’s because they don’t want us to travel. Yes, apparently it’s all a ploy to keep us local and nothing to do with anything else.
He’s deleted the post but it’s been quoted so he wants mods to delete the thread. Got to be a classic.
Personally, I feel for the guy there, and hopefully the mods will delete it. He’s deleted the post but it’s been quoted so he wants mods to delete the thread. Got to be a classic.
Notch 8 said:
GeneralBanter said:
There’s a great CT thread elsewhere where OP has convinced himself that Govt want EV’s because they don’t want us to travel. Yes, apparently it’s all a ploy to keep us local and nothing to do with anything else.
He’s deleted the post but it’s been quoted so he wants mods to delete the thread. Got to be a classic.
Personally, I feel for the guy there, and hopefully the mods will delete it. He’s deleted the post but it’s been quoted so he wants mods to delete the thread. Got to be a classic.
Blown2CV said:
Notch 8 said:
GeneralBanter said:
There’s a great CT thread elsewhere where OP has convinced himself that Govt want EV’s because they don’t want us to travel. Yes, apparently it’s all a ploy to keep us local and nothing to do with anything else.
He’s deleted the post but it’s been quoted so he wants mods to delete the thread. Got to be a classic.
Personally, I feel for the guy there, and hopefully the mods will delete it. He’s deleted the post but it’s been quoted so he wants mods to delete the thread. Got to be a classic.
Blown2CV said:
Notch 8 said:
GeneralBanter said:
There’s a great CT thread elsewhere where OP has convinced himself that Govt want EV’s because they don’t want us to travel. Yes, apparently it’s all a ploy to keep us local and nothing to do with anything else.
He’s deleted the post but it’s been quoted so he wants mods to delete the thread. Got to be a classic.
Personally, I feel for the guy there, and hopefully the mods will delete it. He’s deleted the post but it’s been quoted so he wants mods to delete the thread. Got to be a classic.
Akin to adults wishing to have tweets from their youth deleted as they are older and wiser and these historic words manifestly do not represent who they are as a human today but third parties can use the words against them.
We sadly don't live in a world where you can simply evolve/mature and all those who read past words take them as historic and no longer pertinent.
It's like leaving ammunition on a table for a gun you no longer own. Someone else will find a use for it.
there is a difference between changing your mind about posting something (wow i got a load of s
t i'll just keep my mouth shut in future as everyone is clearly an idiot), and changing your mind about the position you took (wow i really got that wrong and have grown as a person).
You should be able to post what you like but you need to be prepared to defend it and have the courage of conviction about the strongly held beliefs you said you had.
t i'll just keep my mouth shut in future as everyone is clearly an idiot), and changing your mind about the position you took (wow i really got that wrong and have grown as a person). You should be able to post what you like but you need to be prepared to defend it and have the courage of conviction about the strongly held beliefs you said you had.
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