Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?

Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?

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ooid

4,122 posts

101 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Chromegrill said:
There again, familiarity with molecular biology doesn't appear to be a strong point for some people.
Come on now Chrome... Don't you know the amount of "YouTube info" from various unsolicited sources absorbed by armchair virologs? Surely, they are familiar with all, no need to step in a lab or even require training... hehe

Notch 8

283 posts

9 months

Wednesday 1st May
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ooid said:
Chromegrill said:
There again, familiarity with molecular biology doesn't appear to be a strong point for some people.
Come on now Chrome... Don't you know the amount of "YouTube info" from various unsolicited sources absorbed by armchair virologs? Surely, they are familiar with all, no need to step in a lab or even require training...hehe
Yeah but, no but - who’s paying for that ‘training’?

GeneralBanter

857 posts

16 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Blown2CV said:
a conspiracy that is far more believable to me is that the prevalence of CTists posting st online is a foreign state-led misinformation campaign to (further) destabilise western society. I find that far far more likely.
I think in the case of Trump - 100%. China and Russia are desperate to get in the WH as he will destroy America without them firing a shot. Just looking briefly at Trump ‘support’ on Twitter shows that most comes from bizarre places that hate the US.
The rest: Yes, part of the Russia/China/others foreign policies is to sow chaos confusion and distrust in places they deem ‘unfriendly’. That obviously includes us.

It’s just a pity so many look at some lies/misinfomation/CT rubbish then find the same in other places and within an hour believe it completely. Some on PH will only look once and that’s enough!

FB are shortly to be putting a lot of resources into combating misinformation and it’s long overdue.

Blown2CV

28,935 posts

204 months

Wednesday 1st May
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it is bizarre that CTists are so doggedly focused on people being manipulated or lied to, but will utterly and angrily reject the possibility that they in fact are being manipulated or lied to and just haven't spotted it.

GeneralBanter

857 posts

16 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Blown2CV said:
it is bizarre that CTists are so doggedly focused on people being manipulated or lied to, but will utterly and angrily reject the possibility that they in fact are being manipulated or lied to and just haven't spotted it.
This is it in a nutshell.

DonkeyApple

55,568 posts

170 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Al Gorithum said:
Independent? Wow, the irony.

I was born in April during a freeze. 3' snow drifts in London. Chemtrails eh?


Edited by Al Gorithum on Wednesday 1st May 12:26
1975
The latest snow storms recorded fell across Britain in early June, as far south as Surrey. The Derbyshire v Lancashire cricket match at Buxton was cancelled due to snow.

1976
Standpipes in the street and adverts telling us to share a bath. The hottest summer since records began brought drought but a glorious summer. From June 23 to July 17 there were 15 days of 32C.

Heathrow saw 52 days above 25C. There was little rain until the end of August.

Or also snowed again in June 1976 in parts of the U.K.

1975 The Sex Discrimination and Equal Pay Acts came into force. Coincidence? I suspect not. Defying a god's will has a price.

DonkeyApple

55,568 posts

170 months

Wednesday 1st May
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ooid said:
Come on now Chrome... Don't you know the amount of "YouTube info" from various unsolicited sources absorbed by armchair virologs? Surely, they are familiar with all, no need to step in a lab or even require training... hehe
Last night my youngest daughter asked me if it were true that someone had found the cure for cancer but they'd been assassinated. I asked her where she had heard this nugget and the story was that someone at school had made this claim and my daughter had subsequently come home and done some online research seeking clarification of something she thought sounded a bit mental. Being 12 she ended up arriving at TikTok which was when she decided to come and ask for my thoughts on the matter.

Basic investigation revealed that the school source was a girl whose parents are Trustafarian wasters with the grandparents picking up the tab and the TikTok video was some American potato barely able to construct a coherent sentence let alone control one's emotions.

The key here is that you probably can't help those who have decided believing the unbelievable is the solution to not facing the reality of what they've done to the one chance at life and as crushingly sad as it is to see a young child being indoctrinated by a pair of wibbling, work shy losers the brutal reality is that it is one fewer person for my daughter to be competing against for the employment that will afford her the best chance of a good life.

Blown2CV

28,935 posts

204 months

Wednesday 1st May
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part of the issue is that CTists would have no qualms indoctrinating their kids as they don't see it as a belief system that their kids might choose to opt out of, they see it as the truth about the world. So you might end up having chats you don't to have yet with your kids because some dhead parent of a kid in the same class decided to 'educate' their kid about chemtrails and the great reset!

Notch 8

283 posts

9 months

Wednesday 1st May
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DonkeyApple said:
Last night my youngest daughter asked me if it were true that someone had found the cure for cancer but they'd been assassinated. I asked her where she had heard this nugget and the story was that someone at school had made this claim and my daughter had subsequently come home and done some online research seeking clarification of something she thought sounded a bit mental. Being 12 she ended up arriving at TikTok which was when she decided to come and ask for my thoughts on the matter.

Basic investigation revealed that the school source was a girl whose parents are Trustafarian wasters with the grandparents picking up the tab and the TikTok video was some American potato barely able to construct a coherent sentence let alone control one's emotions.

The key here is that you probably can't help those who have decided believing the unbelievable is the solution to not facing the reality of what they've done to the one chance at life and as crushingly sad as it is to see a young child being indoctrinated by a pair of wibbling, work shy losers the brutal reality is that it is one fewer person for my daughter to be competing against for the employment that will afford her the best chance of a good life.
This is the annoying thing about CTists, in the current online environment especially.

The ease of trotting any old crap out, add a bit of melodrama, and there it is, it stands a chance of becoming ‘a thing’.

coldel

7,935 posts

147 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Things like TikTok are becoming dominant for younger people, they use this to search for answers over and above Google search now.
Which given the amount of completely unverified, unreviewed and utter drivel you get on it is scary what impressionable younger people are being exposed to.

DonkeyApple

55,568 posts

170 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Notch 8 said:
This is the annoying thing about CTists, in the current online environment especially.

The ease of trotting any old crap out, add a bit of melodrama, and there it is, it stands a chance of becoming ‘a thing’.
True but ultimately they ensure less competition for work and reveal very quickly they're to be swerved in a social environment. The anti-vaxing thing has been highly beneficial, post Covid, for efficient binning of peripheral punters who previously may have attended several social functions before revealing their NFI status. It's also a more equitable manner to sub divide society than the historic and less palatable and wholly inaccurate metrics used.

andyeds1234

2,297 posts

171 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Blown2CV said:
a conspiracy that is far more believable to me is that the prevalence of CTists posting st online is a foreign state-led misinformation campaign to (further) destabilise western society. I find that far far more likely.
This isn’t even debatable.

The vast amount of disinformation comes from the same sources, and those sources will often produce conflicting versions of misinformation. The aim isn’t necessarily to create a specific narrative, more a mistrust of all information. It’s a divide and conquer operation.

Step into a global threat intelligence SOC, and the sources and misinformation being spread can be tracked in real time.

Type R Tom

3,912 posts

150 months

Wednesday 1st May
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I guess it comes from my work, educational background and even hobbies and interests, but I can't imagine ever taking a single source of information as gospel.

To give an example, with PC gaming hardware, there are so many review sites that test combinations of kit and publish data. I would never watch one channel and then spend my money based on that recommendation; I'd watch loads and take an average.

Many of us grew up with very few sources of information on news, cars, sports, tech, and politics, mainly in written form; we had to trust them. Now, you don't need to trust one source; there are 100s of people producing similar content; why would you ever trust one?

Baroque attacks

4,431 posts

187 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Type R Tom said:
I guess it comes from my work, educational background and even hobbies and interests, but I can't imagine ever taking a single source of information as gospel.

To give an example, with PC gaming hardware, there are so many review sites that test combinations of kit and publish data. I would never watch one channel and then spend my money based on that recommendation; I'd watch loads and take an average.

Many of us grew up with very few sources of information on news, cars, sports, tech, and politics, mainly in written form; we had to trust them. Now, you don't need to trust one source; there are 100s of people producing similar content; why would you ever trust one?
It’s very odd isn’t it.

I was looking to spend ~£8k on a push bike and the fact I could only find one review was something of a worry!

Blown2CV

28,935 posts

204 months

Wednesday 1st May
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yea it's only one review but the guy was so charismatic that i went straight out and bought it

Baroque attacks

4,431 posts

187 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Blown2CV said:
yea it's only one review but the guy was so charismatic that i went straight out and bought it
And he was telling me just what I wanted to hear!

ooid

4,122 posts

101 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Re: both Blown2CV and DA (no idea how to double respond hehe)

I have been asked by colleague to join a job interview for a chap once, he was finishing his postgraduate level. This was at the peak of c19 madness perhaps late 2020. He literally told us, he was actually believing into 'flat earth' and seriously started to give some explanations. As it was online interview, I was literally speechless and had to come up some crap excuse and leave immediately. Then we started checking his CV and etc, it was unbelievable how this guy actually lost his mind at the end, or somehow leaked through our system. Beyond the 'flat earth' crap, it was a complete generic person for the job, maybe even lower mediocre, one of those things that came through of multiple mistakes I think, but still thinking I think that period turned some individuals into having unhealthy obsessions of weird stuff.


jdw100

4,136 posts

165 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Al Gorithum said:
Notch 8 said:
I thought The Independent wouldn’t appeal to the loons, but here they are…

They’re everywhere now.





Independent? Wow, the irony.

I was born in April during a freeze. 3' snow drifts in London. Chemtrails eh?


Edited by Al Gorithum on Wednesday 1st May 12:26
I’m sure this is just people messing around, not serious.

Type R Tom

3,912 posts

150 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Baroque attacks said:
Blown2CV said:
yea it's only one review but the guy was so charismatic that i went straight out and bought it
And he was telling me just what I wanted to hear!
As a cyclist who is also over 100kg in weight, any review saying I'd be faster as the bike is 500g lighter than the competitor I'd ignore anyway!

Notch 8

283 posts

9 months

Thursday 2nd May
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jdw100 said:
Al Gorithum said:
Notch 8 said:
I thought The Independent wouldn’t appeal to the loons, but here they are…

They’re everywhere now.





Independent? Wow, the irony.

I was born in April during a freeze. 3' snow drifts in London. Chemtrails eh?


Edited by Al Gorithum on Wednesday 1st May 12:26
I’m sure this is just people messing around, not serious.
There are so many empowered social media ‘experts’ out there, that constantly bounce off each other.

These comments are very typical on those sort of news threads. You can spot the p!ss take ones quite easily, but those above are most certainly serious.

Have you noticed the renewed vigour elsewhere about chem trails and cloud seeding, as the Summer approaches? I certainly have.


Edited by Notch 8 on Thursday 2nd May 00:14