Things that annoy you beyond reason...(Vol. 7)
Discussion
RizzoTheRat said:
Apparently lots* of complaints about McCartney's set being shown an hour later rather than live too.
Isn't that just because the BBC can't bleep out the swearing quickly enough on a live stream, so they run it behind a bit? I'm not saying PM was likely to be effing and blinding all through his set, but probably easiest to do it for everyone. I was watching someone on early Saturday evening and they'd managed to block out one word, so clearly not broadcast live.It always used to be entertaining listening to the Radio 1 "Big Weekend" live stuff when anyone vaguely edgy was on - I forget who it was, but one artist didn't get through their first song before they went off-air with a big "sorry for the offensive language" hand-wringing session and then the presenter had to fill the rest of their set.
FiF said:
But the key (sorry) issue in his post is the lack of PAS24 spec products in the size required. Out of interest I had a look at a couple of suppliers where I've previously been struggling to find handles and door furniture in sizes to match existing kit but they had come up with the goods. Yes both had choice in the sizes but not to the upgraded security spec.
Also just by way of personal experience, B&Q look as if they have a lot of choice, but quite limited away from what are now the most common sizes.
Yes you're probably right. I know the doors for which I sought new handles and locks are fairly standard, and not uncommon.Also just by way of personal experience, B&Q look as if they have a lot of choice, but quite limited away from what are now the most common sizes.
Regbuser said:
Fastdruid said:
Had a break in last week, snapped the euro lock on the back door along with the handle.
Thankfully had a spare lock and handle so could fix things rather than bodge it but now looking to replace the handles and lock for more secure ones, which brings me to my massive annoyance.
The door being an older one means you can't get the secure handles as they've changed the spacing of things and it appears no one does the "PAS 24" ones in the 70mm PZ as they're all now 92mm PZ.
Equally it appears you can't get the secure "three star" Euro cylinders in the correct lengths, either too short "internally" or too long "externally".
While sure I accept that an older UPVC door isn't as secure as a more modern one just a modern handle and lock would upgrade the security to the point that you've got to pretty much destroy the door to get in. It would seem somewhat of a no brainer to sell upgraded security hardware for older doors, yet you can't buy any.
Sure I'd like to replace the door but that's a massive cost vs ~£60 in handles and a lock if the lock was 22mm further away!
Here you go > https://www.double-glazing-parts-spares.co.uk/cate...Thankfully had a spare lock and handle so could fix things rather than bodge it but now looking to replace the handles and lock for more secure ones, which brings me to my massive annoyance.
The door being an older one means you can't get the secure handles as they've changed the spacing of things and it appears no one does the "PAS 24" ones in the 70mm PZ as they're all now 92mm PZ.
Equally it appears you can't get the secure "three star" Euro cylinders in the correct lengths, either too short "internally" or too long "externally".
While sure I accept that an older UPVC door isn't as secure as a more modern one just a modern handle and lock would upgrade the security to the point that you've got to pretty much destroy the door to get in. It would seem somewhat of a no brainer to sell upgraded security hardware for older doors, yet you can't buy any.
Sure I'd like to replace the door but that's a massive cost vs ~£60 in handles and a lock if the lock was 22mm further away!
popeyewhite said:
Also B+Q supply a vast amount of door handles and locks.
Yes but, not secure ones in the older sizes.FiF said:
But the key (sorry) issue in his post is the lack of PAS24 spec products in the size required. Out of interest I had a look at a couple of suppliers where I've previously been struggling to find handles and door furniture in sizes to match existing kit but they had come up with the goods. Yes both had choice in the sizes but not to the upgraded security spec.
Also just by way of personal experience, B&Q look as if they have a lot of choice, but quite limited away from what are now the most common sizes.
^THIS. Also just by way of personal experience, B&Q look as if they have a lot of choice, but quite limited away from what are now the most common sizes.
I can get handles, not a problem. I just can't get the more secure ones because you can *ONLY* get them for the newer sizes. I wonder if this is because people just claim on the insurance and get a new door (with upgraded security) rather than just replace the lock. Seems somewhat of a missed opportunity to sell upgrades though.
At the time the police did say they could get someone out to "make it secure" but they'd ruin the door in doing so. As I had a spare lock (albeit still one susceptible to being snapped) and spare identical handle this seemed excessive for the sake of 10mins swapping the lock out. Of course if they had ruined the door in making it secure I could now be claiming a new door off my insurance!
To give more detail, my euro cylinder is 50/35. I finally managed to find a 55/35 3* cylinder. It's not ideal but at least only sticks out inside rather than outside.
Places like Mila list the 50/35, but are distributors and don't sell to the public!
Equally the handle is a 70mm PZ with 180mm between bolts. I can't find *anyone* anywhere that makes, let alone sells a PAS24 in that size. Feel free to prove me wrong!
Edited by Fastdruid on Tuesday 28th June 10:48
captain_cynic said:
Does anyone else just not give a s
t about Glastonbury?
It goes on every year, do we really need hourly news reports on it
Substitute Glastonbury for loads of other cr@p; the Jubilee, for example. Football, about which I give not a rat's arse. If you don't like something, switch it off. It's not like there are only 2 tv channels any more.t about Glastonbury?It goes on every year, do we really need hourly news reports on it
Fastdruid said:
To give more detail, my euro cylinder is 50/35. I finally managed to find a 55/35 3* cylinder. It's not ideal but at least only sticks out inside rather than outside.
I'd wondered about the cylinder side of things you mentioned. When my Euro cylinder failed, fortunately not a break in, that's more or less the approach I adopted, albeit different dimensions. Basically ordering 3* one to a specific size rather than taking what somebody had on the shelf in order to ensure nothing protruding on the outside as far as possible, only on inside. But it's a bit pointless if they can still just crunch the handle.Deploy the big angry dogs time.
FiF said:
Fastdruid said:
To give more detail, my euro cylinder is 50/35. I finally managed to find a 55/35 3* cylinder. It's not ideal but at least only sticks out inside rather than outside.
I'd wondered about the cylinder side of things you mentioned. When my Euro cylinder failed, fortunately not a break in, that's more or less the approach I adopted, albeit different dimensions. Basically ordering 3* one to a specific size rather than taking what somebody had on the shelf in order to ensure nothing protruding on the outside as far as possible, only on inside. But it's a bit pointless if they can still just crunch the handle.So a 3* lock isn't pointless without a decent handle, it's more that as I have to replace the handle anyway (although I had a spare it was the old front door one and worn and wobbly) why wouldn't you replace it with the higher security one (even if it is belt and braces) for the sake of about £5? Except you can't because they don't do them.
FiF said:
Deploy the big angry dogs time.
The "big scary dog" saw off the first attempt where they approached the patio door and he barked his head off before they did anything other than shine a torch at the lock area. This time he approached from the other side of the house and so far enough away that he didn't wake the dog.
Zumbruk said:
droopsnoot said:
Isn't that just because the BBC can't bleep out the swearing quickly enough on a live stream,
No, given that they showed Lily Allen and some other even more forgettable non-entity singing "fk You".markymarkthree said:
BBC would probable be deemed racist if they bleeped out all the "fork you", "fork this" & "fork that" songs.
indeed, swearing, homophobia, cop hating and misogyny is the bedrock of african/american street music, any attempt to censor would
stifle the freedoms of and oppress, a minority.
Naughty people, bad, very bad.
Buying a nice vehicle from a dealer, with immaculate full main dealer service history, and they taint the service book with their bloody great big smudgy stamp.
Really pisses me off. I've had it with a beautiful Audi S8 in the past, and had it now with a Ducati I've just bought.
I accept that it probably doesn't devalue the vehicle, but when such a big deal is made that it's low mileage, full main dealer history blah blah blah, why break that?
Really pisses me off. I've had it with a beautiful Audi S8 in the past, and had it now with a Ducati I've just bought.
I accept that it probably doesn't devalue the vehicle, but when such a big deal is made that it's low mileage, full main dealer history blah blah blah, why break that?
Rich Boy Spanner said:
3* Cylinder locks. Forget B&Q, they never seem to have the right sizes. Go on the Yale website and order direct. Just make sure you read their sizing and measuring guide first. I just got 3, all different sizes and none were at B&Q.
....and missing the point once again. They don't do the sizes.
Unless you can see a 3* 50/35 (85mm) that I can't!
https://yalehome.co.uk/yale-platinum-3-star-cylind...
AstonZagato said:
White Stiletto said:
captain_cynic said:
Does anyone else just not give a st about Glastonbury?
It goes on every year, do we really need hourly news reports on it
I'm with you on this. Apparently Glenda Thunderbird and Billy Eyelash were there preaching.t about Glastonbury?It goes on every year, do we really need hourly news reports on it
By reporting it, they hope everyone thinks its of national importance and won't question the cost.
Zumbruk said:
The Beeb moving Wimbledon coverage between channels. WTF is that all about? The days of some people not having BBC2 are 60 years gone. The days of some channels being "better" than others are 20 years gone.
Their Olympics coverage was horrendous for this. jumping around all over the shop - it was like the TV scheduling equivalent of the Floor is LavaEdited by KaraK on Tuesday 28th June 14:53
Zumbruk said:
The Beeb moving Wimbledon coverage between channels. WTF is that all about? The days of some people not having BBC2 are 60 years gone. The days of some channels being "better" than others are 20 years gone.
Agreed, why do they disrupt both channels rather than just switch the tennis over to BBC2 and leave BBC1 as scheduled.?Fastdruid said:
FiF said:
Fastdruid said:
To give more detail, my euro cylinder is 50/35. I finally managed to find a 55/35 3* cylinder. It's not ideal but at least only sticks out inside rather than outside.
I'd wondered about the cylinder side of things you mentioned. When my Euro cylinder failed, fortunately not a break in, that's more or less the approach I adopted, albeit different dimensions. Basically ordering 3* one to a specific size rather than taking what somebody had on the shelf in order to ensure nothing protruding on the outside as far as possible, only on inside. But it's a bit pointless if they can still just crunch the handle.So a 3* lock isn't pointless without a decent handle, it's more that as I have to replace the handle anyway (although I had a spare it was the old front door one and worn and wobbly) why wouldn't you replace it with the higher security one (even if it is belt and braces) for the sake of about £5? Except you can't because they don't do them.
FiF said:
Deploy the big angry dogs time.
The "big scary dog" saw off the first attempt where they approached the patio door and he barked his head off before they did anything other than shine a torch at the lock area. This time he approached from the other side of the house and so far enough away that he didn't wake the dog.
And you're also correct Yale don't do that size,
Avocet, maybe Federal, Ultion
After that struggling to find a make with that size.
Fastdruid said:
They don't do the sizes.
Unless you can see a 3* 50/35 (85mm) that I can't!
Have you triedUnless you can see a 3* 50/35 (85mm) that I can't!
https://saundersonsecurity.co.uk/
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