Jessie Ware - What's Your Pleasure? - mixing quality.

Jessie Ware - What's Your Pleasure? - mixing quality.

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MitchT

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15,867 posts

209 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Love this album - the songs, the music, her voice... but has anyone else listened to it and felt that the whole thing sounds somewhat muffled? It's like the mixing lacks that essential width and clarity that it needs in order to really pop. OK, I listen on YouTube music, but other things I listen to the same way have all the sparkle that this seems to lack. I can't believe something that sounds so muddy was signed off for release.

geezerbutler

525 posts

142 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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I have it on CD and it sounds OK to me. I think the production sounds deliberately a bit 'old school' - reminds me of some 80's soul and R'n'B records that I have.

It's a really good album (just like the previous records) and Jessie is great - she really deserves to be a much bigger star than she is.

thebraketester

14,227 posts

138 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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The production is rubbish. It could have sounded great but it doesn’t. It sounds flat. The vocals sound like they were recorded through a duvet. Shame, cos it sounds like it could have been great.

MitchT

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15,867 posts

209 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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I'd never heard of her before she released "Spotlight" as a single, but having checked out some of her older stuff it seems that this sound is a theme throughout her work. "What's Your Pleasure" is quite a dancey and electronic sounding album and, IMO, should really have been produced with the clarity that you associate with dance and electronic music. To me it sounds like it lacks width and has been compressed excessively.

Anyway, I dragged my favourite track from the album ("The Kill") into Logic Pro, hit it with some mastering plug-ins and it's now a long way to sounding like it I'd prefer it to. I suspect the only way to really sort it though is to go back to the mix and master it again.

MitchT

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15,867 posts

209 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Actually, I think big part of the problem is visible here...


beambeam1

1,029 posts

43 months

Thursday 18th March 2021
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geezerbutler said:
It's a really good album (just like the previous records) and Jessie is great - she really deserves to be a much bigger star than she is.
Agreed, always expected her to be bigger than she is. I only found out about her when in London for the Olympics and have always like Wildest Moments especially but... she just sort of stalled? Same goes for Delilah, banging debut album then went quiet.

Rod200SX

8,087 posts

176 months

Friday 19th March 2021
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MitchT said:
Actually, I think big part of the problem is visible here...

Reminds me of Metallicas Death Magnetic album. Which I loved but I had to turn down every song in software for it to be listenable at higher volumes.

Louis Balfour

26,280 posts

222 months

Friday 19th March 2021
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Rod200SX said:
MitchT said:
Actually, I think big part of the problem is visible here...

Reminds me of Metallicas Death Magnetic album. Which I loved but I had to turn down every song in software for it to be listenable at higher volumes.
What are we looking at there?

MitchT

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15,867 posts

209 months

Friday 19th March 2021
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Louis Balfour said:
What are we looking at there?
It's been mastered so loud that there's no dynamic range left and it sounds like it's suffocating itself!

Louis Balfour

26,280 posts

222 months

Friday 19th March 2021
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MitchT said:
Louis Balfour said:
What are we looking at there?
It's been mastered so loud that there's no dynamic range left and it sounds like it's suffocating itself!
Got it thanks.

DanoS4

868 posts

194 months

Saturday 20th March 2021
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ie it shouldn't be a solid block of black.

It should be lots more white bits biggrin

I've lot count of how many loudness arguments I've had when mastering - no dynamic range is (still) killing music imho

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Saturday 20th March 2021
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Interesting subject! Can anyone offer any more examples?

gazza285

9,810 posts

208 months

Saturday 20th March 2021
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DanoS4 said:
ie it shouldn't be a solid block of black.

It should be lots more white bits biggrin

I've lot count of how many loudness arguments I've had when mastering - no dynamic range is (still) killing music imho
What do they do these days, run (ruin?) the mix through a compressor? I don't have much studio experience, live sound was my bag.