Would a lottery win massively improve/impact your life?

Would a lottery win massively improve/impact your life?

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DodgyGeezer

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40,513 posts

191 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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webstercivet said:
Careful with all that boot-licking. Bezos' billions are built on paying workers poverty wages, so low that they can only survive thanks to tax credits (funded by taxpayers); relentlessly fighting any attempt of workers to unionise for better rights; and engaging in elaborate tax avoidance schemes to deprive society of its rightful share. His wealth is also thanks to the generosity of the US taxpayer inventing the internet and giving it away for free (ARPA) and the European taxpayer inventing the web (Berners-Lee at CERN) and giving that away too - in return, he arranges his affairs such that he pays 0.98% tax while you and I pay 20/40%. Finally, there is no serious argument that $190bn wealth provides sharper incentives for hard work and innovation than, say, $1.9bn. Both figures are far more than anyone could reasonably spend.
so who determines what is a reasonable amount someone can earn? Does the state have a right to say "...right, you're a rich bd - you're not going to earn any more..."?

webstercivet

457 posts

75 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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DodgyGeezer said:
webstercivet said:
Careful with all that boot-licking. Bezos' billions are built on paying workers poverty wages, so low that they can only survive thanks to tax credits (funded by taxpayers); relentlessly fighting any attempt of workers to unionise for better rights; and engaging in elaborate tax avoidance schemes to deprive society of its rightful share. His wealth is also thanks to the generosity of the US taxpayer inventing the internet and giving it away for free (ARPA) and the European taxpayer inventing the web (Berners-Lee at CERN) and giving that away too - in return, he arranges his affairs such that he pays 0.98% tax while you and I pay 20/40%. Finally, there is no serious argument that $190bn wealth provides sharper incentives for hard work and innovation than, say, $1.9bn. Both figures are far more than anyone could reasonably spend.
so who determines what is a reasonable amount someone can earn? Does the state have a right to say "...right, you're a rich bd - you're not going to earn any more..."?
It's not about arbitrary limits, it's about society deserving to have confidence that wealth is earned fairly and the wealthy pay their fair share of tax. In Bezos' case, his wealth is earned unfairly by exploiting labour, and he pays an absurdly-low rate of tax. Those principles aren't being met, so maybe some rethinking of tax law and the balance of power between employee and employer is in order.

Anyway, quite a long way off topic for a lottery thread!

Earthdweller

13,588 posts

127 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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I made a decision aged 20 that turned out the to be the best decision I could ever make

I got to retire with a nice lump sum and an annual pension aged 50

It was life changing .. we moved, actually bought a cheaper, but very nice house in a very rural beautiful area which is on an acre plot and 3000s/ft and we are now mortgage free

My wife works and has pretty good job which is home based with a good pension at the end of it

Between us we have an annual income around 100k + and a bit in the bank

But as much as I enjoy my life I’m not money driven .. I have no debts and no real desire to buy things for the sake of it

We aren’t extravagant, but we do
enjoy life, Covid has like everyone stopped us holidaying and going out but neither of us are heavy drinkers or materialistic in any way

It’s nice to know I’m financially safe and if my wife lost her job tomorrow it wouldn’t affect us but she loves working and her job so would probably go out and get another one

It’s weird not owing money/having debts and knowing you could walk into a car dealer and buy any car in there cash but I don’t have any desire too if that makes sense

I’m happy with my 6 year old car .. not very ph I know

I needed a new pair of shoes this week I bought a pair in the sale for £35

Last year I treated myself to a new watch .. an expensive one at £650 !

No I don’t have millions true .. but I do feel like I’ve won the lottery if that makes sense ?

I reached a place where I don’t have to give a fk and that is truly liberating

I own my own little bit of this planet outright and I’m
beholden to no man

That’s a lottery win

smile




Evoluzione

10,345 posts

244 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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Earthdweller said:
I made a decision aged 20 that turned out the to be the best decision I could ever make.
But you forgot to tell us what it was.

Earthdweller

13,588 posts

127 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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Evoluzione said:
But you forgot to tell us what it was.

It’s in the next line ... a job that allowed me to retire aged 50

Edited by Earthdweller on Tuesday 15th June 22:38

Jim on the hill

5,072 posts

191 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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Evoluzione said:
Earthdweller said:
I made a decision aged 20 that turned out the to be the best decision I could ever make.
But you forgot to tell us what it was.
Zero kids I imagine

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

244 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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Earthdweller said:
Evoluzione said:
But you forgot to tell us what it was.

It’s in the next line ... a job that allowed me to retire aged 50

Edited by Earthdweller on Tuesday 15th June 22:38
It wasn't writing stories was it?

foggy

1,161 posts

283 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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I do hope so, otherwise I’d be massively disappointed in myself!

With a young family it’d provide some me/us time for 5 hours a day whilst they’re at school, rather than working at my laptop to earn a crust. I’d hope I’d use it to be more active and as a result fitter/healthier, plus more content in that I’ve had the chance to do what I’d like to do throughout the day more often, hence being more engaged with the family of an evening.

It wouldn’t take a whole heap of cash to achieve the above, but the bigger the win the bigger the estate I’d go for to mess about in with the off-road and track toys, given that road driving is generally heading in one direction… Think of a lottery-funded Lord March biggrin

Earthdweller

13,588 posts

127 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Evoluzione said:
Earthdweller said:
Evoluzione said:
But you forgot to tell us what it was.

It’s in the next line ... a job that allowed me to retire aged 50

Edited by Earthdweller on Tuesday 15th June 22:38
It wasn't writing stories was it?
No, it’s not a story, I’m just relaying where im at, whether you believe it I care not

smile

Earthdweller

13,588 posts

127 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Jim on the hill said:
Evoluzione said:
Earthdweller said:
I made a decision aged 20 that turned out the to be the best decision I could ever make.
But you forgot to tell us what it was.
Zero kids I imagine
Nope I have kids .. youngest is 12 now, for the last 5 years I’ve been a stay at home dad doing the school runs etc allowing my wife to concentrate on her career

It’s been fabulous to spend so much time with them, hence why I posted on this thread as I feel like I’ve won the lottery

smile



Muzzer79

10,024 posts

188 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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webstercivet said:
Careful with all that boot-licking. Bezos' billions are built on paying workers poverty wages, so low that they can only survive thanks to tax credits (funded by taxpayers); relentlessly fighting any attempt of workers to unionise for better rights; and engaging in elaborate tax avoidance schemes to deprive society of its rightful share. His wealth is also thanks to the generosity of the US taxpayer inventing the internet and giving it away for free (ARPA) and the European taxpayer inventing the web (Berners-Lee at CERN) and giving that away too- in return, he arranges his affairs such that he pays 0.98% tax while you and I pay 20/40%. Finally, there is no serious argument that $190bn wealth provides sharper incentives for hard work and innovation than, say, $1.9bn. Both figures are far more than anyone could reasonably spend.
rofl

So Bezos 'scammed' his way into money thanks to the inventors of the internet giving it away for free? Him and about a billion others my friend.

But hey; those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes, right comrade?

Dave_ST220

10,294 posts

206 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Muzzer79 said:
webstercivet said:
Careful with all that boot-licking. Bezos' billions are built on paying workers poverty wages, so low that they can only survive thanks to tax credits (funded by taxpayers); relentlessly fighting any attempt of workers to unionise for better rights; and engaging in elaborate tax avoidance schemes to deprive society of its rightful share. His wealth is also thanks to the generosity of the US taxpayer inventing the internet and giving it away for free (ARPA) and the European taxpayer inventing the web (Berners-Lee at CERN) and giving that away too- in return, he arranges his affairs such that he pays 0.98% tax while you and I pay 20/40%. Finally, there is no serious argument that $190bn wealth provides sharper incentives for hard work and innovation than, say, $1.9bn. Both figures are far more than anyone could reasonably spend.
rofl

So Bezos 'scammed' his way into money thanks to the inventors of the internet giving it away for free? Him and about a billion others my friend.

But hey; those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes, right comrade?
I think you know what he means.

His ex wife has given a few more billion away, she says it all....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57487967

"In this effort, we are governed by a humbling belief that it would be better if disproportionate wealth were not concentrated in a small number of hands, and that the solutions are best designed and implemented by others."

Couldn't agree more.

red_slr

17,255 posts

190 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Earthdweller said:
Evoluzione said:
But you forgot to tell us what it was.

It’s in the next line ... a job that allowed me to retire aged 50

Edited by Earthdweller on Tuesday 15th June 22:38
It does not take a detective to work it out....

TheJimi

25,001 posts

244 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Earthdweller said:
Evoluzione said:
Earthdweller said:
Evoluzione said:
But you forgot to tell us what it was.

It’s in the next line ... a job that allowed me to retire aged 50

Edited by Earthdweller on Tuesday 15th June 22:38
It wasn't writing stories was it?
No, it’s not a story, I’m just relaying where im at, whether you believe it I care not

smile
I think Evo is getting you confused with Derek Smith - ex-copper who is also an author.