Tesco clubcard pricing differential...

Tesco clubcard pricing differential...

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nickfrog

21,160 posts

217 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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CarCrazyDad said:
Wacky Racer said:
Keep it in your wallet. Not rocket science. smile
I can't remember the last time I took my wallet, I just use contactless on my phone!
Same here. A pick or the QR code on the card is all you need.

What's a wallet?

The spinner of plates

17,698 posts

200 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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nickfrog said:
CarCrazyDad said:
Wacky Racer said:
Keep it in your wallet. Not rocket science. smile
I can't remember the last time I took my wallet, I just use contactless on my phone!
Same here. A pick or the QR code on the card is all you need.

What's a wallet?
It’s an icon on your phone.
Keeps all your payment / loyalty cards in one place.

DanielSan

18,793 posts

167 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2022
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valiant said:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/152000241430838...

Funnily enough I read about the history of Tesco Clubcard just the other day on Twitter. If you’ve got a spare 5 mins it’s worth a read.
There's a detail missed in that story.

While the Clubcard was a planned idea, it was also rushed into service ages of schedule as a stealth means of paying off someone who'd been threatening to go into random stores and poison the fruit and veg. Rather than hand over cash they gave the perpetrator a clubcard loaded with cash money instead. He was eventually caught.

limpsfield

5,885 posts

253 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2022
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DanielSan said:
There's a detail missed in that story.

While the Clubcard was a planned idea, it was also rushed into service ages of schedule as a stealth means of paying off someone who'd been threatening to go into random stores and poison the fruit and veg. Rather than hand over cash they gave the perpetrator a clubcard loaded with cash money instead. He was eventually caught.
Then I heard he used his clubcard vouchers to book the film team that faked the moon landings.

DanielSan

18,793 posts

167 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2022
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limpsfield said:
DanielSan said:
There's a detail missed in that story.

While the Clubcard was a planned idea, it was also rushed into service ages of schedule as a stealth means of paying off someone who'd been threatening to go into random stores and poison the fruit and veg. Rather than hand over cash they gave the perpetrator a clubcard loaded with cash money instead. He was eventually caught.
Then I heard he used his clubcard vouchers to book the film team that faked the moon landings.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12068803.aids-blackmail-man-is-jailed/

Feel free to read through story and the get back in your box.

Saleen836

11,113 posts

209 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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I read Tesco are changing the Clubcard rewards now......
https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/tesco-slashing-valu...

They are also now cutting the points when buying fuel, from 14 June 2023, Tesco is making a change to the number of Clubcard points you can collect.You’ve always been able to collect 1 point for every £2 of fuel you buy at a Tesco Petrol Filling Station.However, they are lowering how many points you can collect.Instead, they’re reducing the value, so you collect 1 point for every 2 litres of fuel.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

108 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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lyricalgangster said:
The biggest issue with this system, isn't the cheaper prices using clubcard in exchange for your data, oh no.

It's the over inflated prices when not on clubcard offer, and the constant changing of prices to make it feel like a 'bargain'.

Boils my urine when an item has been x price forever, then suddenly is x + 50% for no reason, then to knock it back to

x + 30% trying to make it appear a bargain.
mad
If you see a shop do that report them to trading standards as it’s illegal.

Fore Left

1,418 posts

182 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Saleen836 said:
I read Tesco are changing the Clubcard rewards now......
https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/tesco-slashing-valu...

They are also now cutting the points when buying fuel, from 14 June 2023, Tesco is making a change to the number of Clubcard points you can collect.You’ve always been able to collect 1 point for every £2 of fuel you buy at a Tesco Petrol Filling Station.However, they are lowering how many points you can collect.Instead, they’re reducing the value, so you collect 1 point for every 2 litres of fuel.
Every little helps... Tesco improve profits for shareholders.

fk customers...

RayDonovan

4,370 posts

215 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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ZedLeg said:
lyricalgangster said:
The biggest issue with this system, isn't the cheaper prices using clubcard in exchange for your data, oh no.

It's the over inflated prices when not on clubcard offer, and the constant changing of prices to make it feel like a 'bargain'.

Boils my urine when an item has been x price forever, then suddenly is x + 50% for no reason, then to knock it back to

x + 30% trying to make it appear a bargain.
mad
If you see a shop do that report them to trading standards as it’s illegal.
Only illegal if they don't follow price establishment rules.

CoolHands

18,638 posts

195 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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I mean you’d have to be mad to continue going to tesco as a) their non club card prices are absolutely scandalous and b) who wants to be forced into using wky club cards? fk that

and now they’ve got all their core customers using club cards and not being able to understand prices (as constantly changed), surprise surprise they altering the value of the club card points!

Mugs

captain_cynic

12,006 posts

95 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Fore Left said:
Every little helps... Tesco improve profits for shareholders.

fk customers...
Wait... you thought this "clubcard" was something to benefit the customers, not just a tacky means of trying to compel people to shop at Tesco over cheaper shops?

DodgyGeezer

Original Poster:

40,452 posts

190 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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strikes me as being similar to the old Green Shield Stamps - as soon as it gets too popular it'll be changed to make it less beneficial. One thing that the CC did was to help Tesco (and whatever 'loyalty' scheme their competition had) track spending habits and therefore aid in targetted advertising and kid people into believing 'their' supermarket offered a better scheme than a.n.other

captain_cynic

12,006 posts

95 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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DodgyGeezer said:
strikes me as being similar to the old Green Shield Stamps - as soon as it gets too popular it'll be changed to make it less beneficial. One thing that the CC did was to help Tesco (and whatever 'loyalty' scheme their competition had) track spending habits and therefore aid in targetted advertising and kid people into believing 'their' supermarket offered a better scheme than a.n.other
It's the same with all "loyalty" schemes.

Anything that pays you in points (or stars, aubergine emojis, et al. the point is it's not legal tender or transferable for such) is ultimately subject to the whims of those who issue the points. If they're not profiting from it, they'll devalue the program until they are. Hence any frequent flyer program worth being a member of only rewards you if you actually fly frequently.

You don't have this issue so much in the UK because credit card interchange fees are capped, so you don't get a lot of credit cards offering you points and rewards, I.E. in Australia or the US they'll issue airline branded cards that you can accrue frequent flyer points on (I.E. a QANTAS card or AA Advantage card) however these programs frequently get devalued because people are accruing too many points and the kickback they're getting from the issuing bank isn't covering costs. You frequently see on Australian forums people whining that they put everything on the QANTAS card to get points to find out they don't have enough to use before they expire because the amount needed has increased.

It's all gamified and chasing point is a mugs game, now watch a mug come back and defend it because they haven't figured out who's paying for it (much like the loser at the poker table, if you cant spot them, it's you).

Portofino

4,286 posts

191 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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One thing that’s grated my parsnip recently is the frankly lying Aldi price check.

They claim to match Aldi with the basic goods so why have I seen sugar go up, butter go up, lots of other things over the past few months with an Aldi price match sticker….

Basically pulling the wool over your eyes claiming they are matching Aldi when they can sell it cheaper. Tesco have much more buying power (Aldi can not match the buying power) & the it’s a good price, when a week or two earlier it was much much cheaper.

Making a profit from price matching is a dirty trick to play.

They need to be called out on it.

James6112

4,363 posts

28 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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The club card scam has been annoying me for a while..
Bargain price versus rip off price

I just deleted the app & will stick to my local coop!

The spinner of plates

17,698 posts

200 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Portofino said:
One thing that’s grated my parsnip recently is the frankly lying Aldi price check.

They claim to match Aldi with the basic goods so why have I seen sugar go up, butter go up, lots of other things over the past few months with an Aldi price match sticker….

Basically pulling the wool over your eyes claiming they are matching Aldi when they can sell it cheaper. Tesco have much more buying power (Aldi can not match the buying power) & the it’s a good price, when a week or two earlier it was much much cheaper.

Making a profit from price matching is a dirty trick to play.

They need to be called out on it.
It’s an interesting point putting prices up to price match, I grant you.

But don’t underestimate Aldi buying power, globally they’re bigger than Tesco and know how to leverage multinational suppliers.

Plus Tesco have a heavier cost base - more staff, range of products etc.

simon_harris

1,288 posts

34 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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The data element of this is very interesting, I used to work at a business that dealt with tescos data (fun fact if you had a clubcard and a tescos credit card at one point the both had the same number - that caused some issues with them sending us data when we were not PCI-DSS compliant!)

About 10 years ago I was talking to one of their data team who asserted that they could generally tell a woman was pregnant before she knew herself due to the subtle changes in buying patterns that preceded 9 months later buying nappies/milk etc. Do not underestimate the amount, detail and power of data collected on you wherever you shop, unless you only ever pay cash it can still be tracked back to you as an individual though the cards you use to purchase.

If you don't have a clubcard and your other half does but you use your debit card to pay and they present their clubcard it triggers a link between the two, add in any amount of frequency to that and it becomes a permanent link. You only have to see how important your data is to Google/apple/facebook etc to understand why Tesco or any of the big retail companies are so interested in your data.

vikingaero

10,334 posts

169 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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simon_harris said:
The data element of this is very interesting, I used to work at a business that dealt with tescos data (fun fact if you had a clubcard and a tescos credit card at one point the both had the same number - that caused some issues with them sending us data when we were not PCI-DSS compliant!)

About 10 years ago I was talking to one of their data team who asserted that they could generally tell a woman was pregnant before she knew herself due to the subtle changes in buying patterns that preceded 9 months later buying nappies/milk etc. Do not underestimate the amount, detail and power of data collected on you wherever you shop, unless you only ever pay cash it can still be tracked back to you as an individual though the cards you use to purchase.

If you don't have a clubcard and your other half does but you use your debit card to pay and they present their clubcard it triggers a link between the two, add in any amount of frequency to that and it becomes a permanent link. You only have to see how important your data is to Google/apple/facebook etc to understand why Tesco or any of the big retail companies are so interested in your data.
My neighbour asked if I could sign up with Tesco for home delivery and order a load of dog food that was on offer for the animal shelter she volunteers at Now we get loads of animal vouchers and offers.

I also signed up to Sainsburys to order infant formula for my sister and now I get loads of till spit vouchers with baby offers.

iphonedyou

9,253 posts

157 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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CoolHands said:
I mean you’d have to be mad to continue going to tesco as a) their non club card prices are absolutely scandalous and b) who wants to be forced into using wky club cards? fk that

and now they’ve got all their core customers using club cards and not being able to understand prices (as constantly changed), surprise surprise they altering the value of the club card points!

Mugs
Or it's close by, pleasant enough as it goes and they're pretty price insensitive.

Like this mug.

WelshChris

1,179 posts

254 months

Thursday 30th March 2023
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Tesco are a fraud on nearly every level.

Those of you who live in towns where you actually have a choice are the lucky ones. We have only Tesco (plus the usual Lidl and Aldi), but none of the other mainstream supermarket chains.

Our Tesco randomly stops selling various products - not niche products, but mainstream items that nearly everyone would buy. I'm rather partial to Lurpak butter - not the spreadable crap, but the proper stuff. Can I get it in our Tesco? - nope, they've stopped selling it for no apparent reason despite the fact that it's possibly the most popular butter.

It's a 30 mile drive for me to get to an alternative supermarket so I guess they feel they can do what they like.