How long do you want to live?
Discussion
I bet that those who currently reckon 'about 70' is when they'd like to die will change their minds when they're 69 and doing all the things they did when they were 10, 15 or 20 years younger.
At 74 I'm still able to do everything I want to do, a little slower perhaps due to arthritis but everything I want to do or need to do I can do, unaided and that's despite having had cancer and heart surgery.
Reading this thread is depressing; hope and ambition do continue into old age, retirement isn't the last item on life's list to tick!
At 74 I'm still able to do everything I want to do, a little slower perhaps due to arthritis but everything I want to do or need to do I can do, unaided and that's despite having had cancer and heart surgery.
Reading this thread is depressing; hope and ambition do continue into old age, retirement isn't the last item on life's list to tick!
There are a few studies into happiness and how it is impacted by age. For those of us in our 40s we are probably at out most unhappiest life stage which might have an impact on our outlook. Writing my previous post has made me assess that I need to make some lifestyle changes so I look after myself now so I can enjoy tomorrow(s).
https://cordis.europa.eu/article/id/446730-at-what...
Diary of a ceo
https://youtu.be/0DZK1nawEXQ?si=RGoNsQ7Kp79lXJCC
https://cordis.europa.eu/article/id/446730-at-what...
Diary of a ceo
https://youtu.be/0DZK1nawEXQ?si=RGoNsQ7Kp79lXJCC
Edited by MDUBZ on Monday 8th April 08:07
MDUBZ said:
There are a few studies into happiness and how it is impacted by age. For those of us in our 40s we are probably at out most unhappiest life stage which might have an impact on our outlook. Writing my previous post has made me assess that I need to make some lifestyle changes so I look after myself now so I can enjoy tomorrow(s).
https://cordis.europa.eu/article/id/446730-at-what...
Diary of a ceo
https://youtu.be/0DZK1nawEXQ?si=RGoNsQ7Kp79lXJCC
I'd agree. I'm earning more at this stage in life than I thought I ever would, I've got my own place, a few cars to play with and time to do whatever I want.https://cordis.europa.eu/article/id/446730-at-what...
Diary of a ceo
https://youtu.be/0DZK1nawEXQ?si=RGoNsQ7Kp79lXJCC
Edited by MDUBZ on Monday 8th April 08:07
On paper it sounds great, but it's not feeling quite like that right now. Life is pretty empty tbh.
Might look into volunteering or something when I get home from this trip, I feel I need to meet new people.
csd19 said:
MDUBZ said:
There are a few studies into happiness and how it is impacted by age. For those of us in our 40s we are probably at out most unhappiest life stage which might have an impact on our outlook. Writing my previous post has made me assess that I need to make some lifestyle changes so I look after myself now so I can enjoy tomorrow(s).
https://cordis.europa.eu/article/id/446730-at-what...
Diary of a ceo
https://youtu.be/0DZK1nawEXQ?si=RGoNsQ7Kp79lXJCC
I'd agree. I'm earning more at this stage in life than I thought I ever would, I've got my own place, a few cars to play with and time to do whatever I want.https://cordis.europa.eu/article/id/446730-at-what...
Diary of a ceo
https://youtu.be/0DZK1nawEXQ?si=RGoNsQ7Kp79lXJCC
Edited by MDUBZ on Monday 8th April 08:07
On paper it sounds great, but it's not feeling quite like that right now. Life is pretty empty tbh.
Might look into volunteering or something when I get home from this trip, I feel I need to meet new people.
We are in a very similar situation in the want for nothing but a bit further on / next stage, spent our 40s pushing very hard so as to never have to think about money again or having to work for it again but knew we still needed to retain our purpose through work so we have kept our responsibilities on this side.
Searching for meaning beyond self purpose is a different thing again for us, we’re not people orientated so it all comes down to adventuring together and discovering new things constantly, new ways of doing them to and it takes a lot of planning and talking about, some would say first world problem but in fact, its not, its actually your final journey in life to enlightenment and the one that’ll make you at peace for when your time comes, so a very very important one and very different for every single person.
csd19 said:
I'd agree. I'm earning more at this stage in life than I thought I ever would, I've got my own place, a few cars to play with and time to do whatever I want.
On paper it sounds great, but it's not feeling quite like that right now. Life is pretty empty tbh.
Might look into volunteering or something when I get home from this trip, I feel I need to meet new people.
Similar here. I never imagined to be earning what I do. Even though finances have been strained by divorce I'm comfortable, but not happy. Of course the emotional strain of seperation hasn't helped but its nore than that.On paper it sounds great, but it's not feeling quite like that right now. Life is pretty empty tbh.
Might look into volunteering or something when I get home from this trip, I feel I need to meet new people.
I volunteer as a cricket coach. Got my basic coaching qualification. It's hard work but rewarding, and get to meet new people. Gives more purpose to life. My job is just for the money, there is no other reward.
So long as I am healthy enough and enjoying life I am good for it.
My grandparents all died by 63 so I never got to see them. I had a neighbour I was helping to look after till he was 96 last year and it didn't look great to me but he was sharp as a razor, even so I don't fancy being stuck indoors smelling of wee with nothing to look forward to
My grandparents all died by 63 so I never got to see them. I had a neighbour I was helping to look after till he was 96 last year and it didn't look great to me but he was sharp as a razor, even so I don't fancy being stuck indoors smelling of wee with nothing to look forward to
Having had a little to do with age and when to go recently, I think it's all about being mentally fit enough to enjoy your life and those you hold dear.
I lost my Dad 4 weeks ago, he was 77. He'd lived a very full life and on the face of it was doing okay, still driving and still enjoying his passion for cars.
Back in January we had some snow and the silly sod decided to shovel his drive clear rather than call me for help. The next day he had a pain in his side. He only had one Kidney left and during the scans to see where the pain was coming from they found a big tumor on his remaining Kidney. That had to come out but would mean he'd spend the rest of his life on dialysis every two or three days. He didn't fancy that but said he'd do it rather than go through therapy to treat the cancer. At this time I would say he was around 95% clear in his head.
The operation to remove the Kidney knocked him sideways, not just physically but also mentally, and having spent a month in ICU gradually going downhill he gave up on March 9th, 20 minutes after my kids left his hospital room.
He had all of the DNR instructions along with everything else he didn't want to happen Notarised in his will, thankfully. I had power of attorney over his treatment and had made the, very tough, decision after talking to his Doctors, about the best case scenario being he would end up in a nursing home, bedridden, being tube fed, etc. to have everything unplugged on Monday 11th March. Thankfully he went two days beforehand of his own accord.
I think it's pretty easy to say 'I'd be happy to go at xx years old', but in reality everyone is different. I know people who are mid 80 and still come to the pub and have a laugh, and people who are 60 and seem to be waiting for God to come and get them.
Having seen what Dad went through, and hearing the Doctor say to me that they could keep him alive for another year staring at the cealing if I wanted, the main thing for me is to have very clear instructions in my will that if I'm lying in a puddle of my own piss unable to feed myself, pull the plug.
Up until 10 years ago my Dad was still enjoying life to the full.
I lost my Dad 4 weeks ago, he was 77. He'd lived a very full life and on the face of it was doing okay, still driving and still enjoying his passion for cars.
Back in January we had some snow and the silly sod decided to shovel his drive clear rather than call me for help. The next day he had a pain in his side. He only had one Kidney left and during the scans to see where the pain was coming from they found a big tumor on his remaining Kidney. That had to come out but would mean he'd spend the rest of his life on dialysis every two or three days. He didn't fancy that but said he'd do it rather than go through therapy to treat the cancer. At this time I would say he was around 95% clear in his head.
The operation to remove the Kidney knocked him sideways, not just physically but also mentally, and having spent a month in ICU gradually going downhill he gave up on March 9th, 20 minutes after my kids left his hospital room.
He had all of the DNR instructions along with everything else he didn't want to happen Notarised in his will, thankfully. I had power of attorney over his treatment and had made the, very tough, decision after talking to his Doctors, about the best case scenario being he would end up in a nursing home, bedridden, being tube fed, etc. to have everything unplugged on Monday 11th March. Thankfully he went two days beforehand of his own accord.
I think it's pretty easy to say 'I'd be happy to go at xx years old', but in reality everyone is different. I know people who are mid 80 and still come to the pub and have a laugh, and people who are 60 and seem to be waiting for God to come and get them.
Having seen what Dad went through, and hearing the Doctor say to me that they could keep him alive for another year staring at the cealing if I wanted, the main thing for me is to have very clear instructions in my will that if I'm lying in a puddle of my own piss unable to feed myself, pull the plug.
Up until 10 years ago my Dad was still enjoying life to the full.
Adenauer said:
Having had a little to do with age and when to go recently, I think it's all about being mentally fit enough to enjoy your life and those you hold dear.
I lost my Dad 4 weeks ago, he was 77. He'd lived a very full life and on the face of it was doing okay, still driving and still enjoying his passion for cars.
Back in January we had some snow and the silly sod decided to shovel his drive clear rather than call me for help. The next day he had a pain in his side. He only had one Kidney left and during the scans to see where the pain was coming from they found a big tumor on his remaining Kidney. That had to come out but would mean he'd spend the rest of his life on dialysis every two or three days. He didn't fancy that but said he'd do it rather than go through therapy to treat the cancer. At this time I would say he was around 95% clear in his head.
The operation to remove the Kidney knocked him sideways, not just physically but also mentally, and having spent a month in ICU gradually going downhill he gave up on March 9th, 20 minutes after my kids left his hospital room.
He had all of the DNR instructions along with everything else he didn't want to happen Notarised in his will, thankfully. I had power of attorney over his treatment and had made the, very tough, decision after talking to his Doctors, about the best case scenario being he would end up in a nursing home, bedridden, being tube fed, etc. to have everything unplugged on Monday 11th March. Thankfully he went two days beforehand of his own accord.
I think it's pretty easy to say 'I'd be happy to go at xx years old', but in reality everyone is different. I know people who are mid 80 and still come to the pub and have a laugh, and people who are 60 and seem to be waiting for God to come and get them.
Having seen what Dad went through, and hearing the Doctor say to me that they could keep him alive for another year staring at the cealing if I wanted, the main thing for me is to have very clear instructions in my will that if I'm lying in a puddle of my own piss unable to feed myself, pull the plug.
Up until 10 years ago my Dad was still enjoying life to the full.
Sorry to read that.I lost my Dad 4 weeks ago, he was 77. He'd lived a very full life and on the face of it was doing okay, still driving and still enjoying his passion for cars.
Back in January we had some snow and the silly sod decided to shovel his drive clear rather than call me for help. The next day he had a pain in his side. He only had one Kidney left and during the scans to see where the pain was coming from they found a big tumor on his remaining Kidney. That had to come out but would mean he'd spend the rest of his life on dialysis every two or three days. He didn't fancy that but said he'd do it rather than go through therapy to treat the cancer. At this time I would say he was around 95% clear in his head.
The operation to remove the Kidney knocked him sideways, not just physically but also mentally, and having spent a month in ICU gradually going downhill he gave up on March 9th, 20 minutes after my kids left his hospital room.
He had all of the DNR instructions along with everything else he didn't want to happen Notarised in his will, thankfully. I had power of attorney over his treatment and had made the, very tough, decision after talking to his Doctors, about the best case scenario being he would end up in a nursing home, bedridden, being tube fed, etc. to have everything unplugged on Monday 11th March. Thankfully he went two days beforehand of his own accord.
I think it's pretty easy to say 'I'd be happy to go at xx years old', but in reality everyone is different. I know people who are mid 80 and still come to the pub and have a laugh, and people who are 60 and seem to be waiting for God to come and get them.
Having seen what Dad went through, and hearing the Doctor say to me that they could keep him alive for another year staring at the cealing if I wanted, the main thing for me is to have very clear instructions in my will that if I'm lying in a puddle of my own piss unable to feed myself, pull the plug.
Up until 10 years ago my Dad was still enjoying life to the full.
Riley Blue said:
I bet that those who currently reckon 'about 70' is when they'd like to die will change their minds when they're 69 and doing all the things they did when they were 10, 15 or 20 years younger.
At 74 I'm still able to do everything I want to do, a little slower perhaps due to arthritis but everything I want to do or need to do I can do, unaided and that's despite having had cancer and heart surgery.
Reading this thread is depressing; hope and ambition do continue into old age, retirement isn't the last item on life's list to tick!
THIS, in a heartbeat!At 74 I'm still able to do everything I want to do, a little slower perhaps due to arthritis but everything I want to do or need to do I can do, unaided and that's despite having had cancer and heart surgery.
Reading this thread is depressing; hope and ambition do continue into old age, retirement isn't the last item on life's list to tick!
I'm 45 and already have some heath conditions which impact my quality of life (rheumatoid arthritis, fibromyalgia and t2 diabetes) so i'm very conscious of probably not having an extended innings but i've got a 6 year old daughter who i want to see grow up so i'd be happy with mid 70's.
My parents are late 60's/early 70s and are having their own ailments which mean i'd not envisage either of them hitting 80.
My GP is a great bloke and keeps going on about if you dont do *this* then you might get *that* in the future, but i would much rather enjoy the next 30 years than eek out a miserable existance till im 90
My parents are late 60's/early 70s and are having their own ailments which mean i'd not envisage either of them hitting 80.
My GP is a great bloke and keeps going on about if you dont do *this* then you might get *that* in the future, but i would much rather enjoy the next 30 years than eek out a miserable existance till im 90
Scabutz said:
csd19 said:
I'd agree. I'm earning more at this stage in life than I thought I ever would, I've got my own place, a few cars to play with and time to do whatever I want.
On paper it sounds great, but it's not feeling quite like that right now. Life is pretty empty tbh.
Might look into volunteering or something when I get home from this trip, I feel I need to meet new people.
Similar here. I never imagined to be earning what I do. Even though finances have been strained by divorce I'm comfortable, but not happy. Of course the emotional strain of seperation hasn't helped but its nore than that.On paper it sounds great, but it's not feeling quite like that right now. Life is pretty empty tbh.
Might look into volunteering or something when I get home from this trip, I feel I need to meet new people.
I volunteer as a cricket coach. Got my basic coaching qualification. It's hard work but rewarding, and get to meet new people. Gives more purpose to life. My job is just for the money, there is no other reward.
So it's time to push myself out and learn and appreciate more about other people, and I never know, it may lead to meeting someone new to share life with. And give me a reason to want to have a long innings.
Anything quick and painless after age 80 for me.
My dad is 84 and has end stage Alzheimer's, he does not have long left.
Dementia has completely robbed him of his dignity. To see a man who was the life and soul of the party until a couple of years ago lying bedridden and dependent on carers for everything, confused as to the world around him, is utterly heartbreaking. He does however manage to raise a smile most days, I don't know how.
My dad is 84 and has end stage Alzheimer's, he does not have long left.
Dementia has completely robbed him of his dignity. To see a man who was the life and soul of the party until a couple of years ago lying bedridden and dependent on carers for everything, confused as to the world around him, is utterly heartbreaking. He does however manage to raise a smile most days, I don't know how.
Riley Blue said:
I bet that those who currently reckon 'about 70' is when they'd like to die will change their minds when they're 69 and doing all the things they did when they were 10, 15 or 20 years younger.
At 74 I'm still able to do everything I want to do, a little slower perhaps due to arthritis but everything I want to do or need to do I can do, unaided and that's despite having had cancer and heart surgery.
Reading this thread is depressing; hope and ambition do continue into old age, retirement isn't the last item on life's list to tick!
I agree - strange to set your end at 70.At 74 I'm still able to do everything I want to do, a little slower perhaps due to arthritis but everything I want to do or need to do I can do, unaided and that's despite having had cancer and heart surgery.
Reading this thread is depressing; hope and ambition do continue into old age, retirement isn't the last item on life's list to tick!
Look at someone like Gordon Murray, nearly 78 and bashing out new supercars. Ambition, energy and dynamism as a near Octogenarian!
I'm approaching 35... I alternate between feeling like i'm just getting going and starting, and "f
k maybe i'm knocking on now and i'm behind" 
85-90 i'd say is what I'd be happy with, as long as sound body and mind of course, and providing i'd done absolutely everything I wanted to, literally to death.
Then just spend the last few years chilling and seeing friends and family, then fade away one night in my sleep
8IKERDAVE said:
I'd be happy with 80 (although ask me again at 79!)
For me, once I start to become a burden on family and not be able to think for myself anymore - that's the time!
Same for me, I will not end up in an old peoples retirement home as long as I still retain the ability to do something about it.For me, once I start to become a burden on family and not be able to think for myself anymore - that's the time!
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