How long do you want to live?
Discussion
cheesejunkie said:
ShredderXLE said:
45 now, would happily peg out at 65. Another 20 years would be enough.
Easy to say at 45.Give me a quick death not a slow one, but I’ll take a long life if I can.
Its not as if any day of the future is looking like a more of pleasnt place to live than it was 20 years ago or ever will be. Another 20 yeatrs left would mean I could retire tomorrow while im still healthy enough and savvy enough to fully enjoy it.
ShredderXLE said:
Why?
Its not as if any day of the future is looking like a more of pleasnt place to live than it was 20 years ago or ever will be. Another 20 yeatrs left would mean I could retire tomorrow while im still healthy enough and savvy enough to fully enjoy it.
I wasn’t picking a fight.Its not as if any day of the future is looking like a more of pleasnt place to live than it was 20 years ago or ever will be. Another 20 yeatrs left would mean I could retire tomorrow while im still healthy enough and savvy enough to fully enjoy it.
Every day of the future is fine by me. That some think elderly people should pop their clogs is not fine by me but if they want to volunteer rather than suggest others do I’ll not stop them.
Life is for living not just existing, I understand that. I respect the right to disagree with people who’d consider my existence superfluous. I’m pretty much the same age as you by the way, I’m not for the knackers yard yet,
ShredderXLE said:
cheesejunkie said:
ShredderXLE said:
45 now, would happily peg out at 65. Another 20 years would be enough.
Easy to say at 45.Give me a quick death not a slow one, but I’ll take a long life if I can.
Its not as if any day of the future is looking like a more of pleasnt place to live than it was 20 years ago or ever will be. Another 20 yeatrs left would mean I could retire tomorrow while im still healthy enough and savvy enough to fully enjoy it.
I've said to my own parents.
What are you saving up for ?
Spend it whilst you can, on yourselves, your grand kids, (4) your great grandkids (5), me, my sisters, the homeless. Don't keep it all locked up when you could enjoy seeing how useful it could be.
Pit Pony said:
The issue is you can't predict the end date, which is why without fail all my relatives have died with a big rainy day fund in the bank.
I've said to my own parents.
What are you saving up for ?
Spend it whilst you can, on yourselves, your grand kids, (4) your great grandkids (5), me, my sisters, the homeless. Don't keep it all locked up when you could enjoy seeing how useful it could be.
So very true. If only I had an expiry date it would help enormously.I've said to my own parents.
What are you saving up for ?
Spend it whilst you can, on yourselves, your grand kids, (4) your great grandkids (5), me, my sisters, the homeless. Don't keep it all locked up when you could enjoy seeing how useful it could be.
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Hopefully long enough to enjoy my last dinner. 
Skyedriver said:
So very true. If only I had an expiry date it would help enormously.
Here ya go!
https://www.medindia.net/patients/calculators/deat...
AndyAudi said:
RDMcG said:
…..75 year …. no more dogs. My Great Dane is over 10 and will not live too much longer sadly , but when she goes it would not be fair to buy another who would likely survive me. Probably the hardest decision -life with Great Danes has been a joy.
My grandparents had no dogs for about 20years , then randomly got a Jack Russell pup in their 70’s which lived with them for next 15years - they both outlived it & that dog was a fantastic companion to them both & it got my grandfather out of the house every day. They also took two litters of pups of her too (they never really slowed down, age can just be a number don’t let it rule you)I think on balance I'd like to live until the day I die and not a minute longer. That would be creepy.
I'd also add if you have some degree of wealth give as much to your children/grandchildren whilst you are alive as you dare afford and a bit more. Not only will it save on inheritance tax but you get the selfish joy of seeing the benefit it brings to your family.
After that SKI, as my Daughter puts it, to your heart's content.
I'll be 70 this year and watched my parents who were still incredibly active (driving to south of Spain and South of France at least twice annually) until early 80s fall apart soon after. Then their spend profile fell off a cliff.
The older people around here, late 70s and 80s that I know live everyday like it was their last. I intend to do the same.
I'd also add if you have some degree of wealth give as much to your children/grandchildren whilst you are alive as you dare afford and a bit more. Not only will it save on inheritance tax but you get the selfish joy of seeing the benefit it brings to your family.
After that SKI, as my Daughter puts it, to your heart's content.
I'll be 70 this year and watched my parents who were still incredibly active (driving to south of Spain and South of France at least twice annually) until early 80s fall apart soon after. Then their spend profile fell off a cliff.
The older people around here, late 70s and 80s that I know live everyday like it was their last. I intend to do the same.
I fully fit the older person's profile....
Currently en route from the Algarve to Norfolk, but stuck on the eastern edge of Seville as the camper has developed an obscure exhaust emissions fault that has placed it in 'limp mode', needs a part that is only available direct from the factory in Italy and costs almost 800euros!
All we can do is present the creditcard and smile politely, whilst taking full advantage of the local cafe culture.....
For how many more years that I will be able to this sort of thing?
I have absolutely no Idea, but my vocational licences were not renewed at age 70, thus limiting me to a max. vehicle wieght of 3.5T, probably not a bad thing in the grand scheme of things.
The other thing that now limits me is 'hands on' practical work, I no longer have the urge to crawl under my cars with a hand full of spanners or tear apart and rebuild chunks of my home, prefering instead to employ younger, fitter folk and smile politely and pay for the work to be done.
But I do still enjoy drinking wine and gin and mixed, so older life is not really that bad!
Currently en route from the Algarve to Norfolk, but stuck on the eastern edge of Seville as the camper has developed an obscure exhaust emissions fault that has placed it in 'limp mode', needs a part that is only available direct from the factory in Italy and costs almost 800euros!
All we can do is present the creditcard and smile politely, whilst taking full advantage of the local cafe culture.....
For how many more years that I will be able to this sort of thing?
I have absolutely no Idea, but my vocational licences were not renewed at age 70, thus limiting me to a max. vehicle wieght of 3.5T, probably not a bad thing in the grand scheme of things.
The other thing that now limits me is 'hands on' practical work, I no longer have the urge to crawl under my cars with a hand full of spanners or tear apart and rebuild chunks of my home, prefering instead to employ younger, fitter folk and smile politely and pay for the work to be done.
But I do still enjoy drinking wine and gin and mixed, so older life is not really that bad!
Jader1973 said:
I’m reading “Rambling Man” by Billy Connolly at the moment.
In one bit he makes a good point: people will say that if you don’t do something (e.g. smoking / bad diet) you’ll live longer, but you don’t get the extra time when you’re 30 and can enjoy it, you get it when you’re too old to do any thing with it.
Not sure about that. A friend of mine has just died in their mid-50s from throat cancer (smoking/drinking), and another friend of mine is battling lung cancer in their late 40s (heavy smoker), my uncle died in his 50s from throat cancer as well (smoking/drinking). In one bit he makes a good point: people will say that if you don’t do something (e.g. smoking / bad diet) you’ll live longer, but you don’t get the extra time when you’re 30 and can enjoy it, you get it when you’re too old to do any thing with it.
You can have *a lot* of good years at those ages.
Edit: there is a difference between a health span and a life span. You don’t have to be a saint to significantly improve your chances of a long health span.
Having recently, at 60, been diagnosed with aggressive, inoperable, incurable (but seemingly very treatable) cancer, I have had to think a lot about what span I might have from here. I've also spent a lot of time in hospital for treatment and I've seen a lot of old and deeply unwell people shuffling (or being wheeled) along corridors. It didn't fill me with any desire to maximise my time on this planet versus a sensible period with decent quality of life. I'm not sure that puts a date on it - it depends on how I am physically and mentally.
My late mother once told someone she didn't want to live to 80. The chap replied "You won't say that when you're 79". She did make it to 80 but dementia took her about 5 years before that. Horrible way to go.
My late mother once told someone she didn't want to live to 80. The chap replied "You won't say that when you're 79". She did make it to 80 but dementia took her about 5 years before that. Horrible way to go.
The nearer you get to 75 the less likely it is that you'll have had enough when you get there.
I've outlived both my parents year for year, which was an ambition, but apart from my body starting to go wrong in a number of ways I really feel pretty good. I'd be very happy to make 80, but if my bits fall off or stop working then I may not make that I suppose.
I still enjoy driving a fast/powerful car; the day I don't then I'll start thinking about a ticket to Switzerland....
Pitre (age 67 3/4)
I've outlived both my parents year for year, which was an ambition, but apart from my body starting to go wrong in a number of ways I really feel pretty good. I'd be very happy to make 80, but if my bits fall off or stop working then I may not make that I suppose.
I still enjoy driving a fast/powerful car; the day I don't then I'll start thinking about a ticket to Switzerland....
Pitre (age 67 3/4)
I smoke 15 roll ups/day & drink way more wine & beer than is good for me. I ride motorcycles a bit too aggressively & work in construction, particularly with heavy machinery. I use soldering equipment, solvents, spray paints on a regular basis, so I reckon my body will give up well before my mind. Can't afford a decent retirement, so I suppose I'll work until I drop. If not, dignitas is plan B. I reckon 75, maybe 80.
As others have mentioned: what's the point in living a sterile dull life?
As others have mentioned: what's the point in living a sterile dull life?
Jader1973 said:
I’m reading “Rambling Man” by Billy Connolly at the moment.
In one bit he makes a good point: people will say that if you don’t do something (e.g. smoking / bad diet) you’ll live longer, but you don’t get the extra time when you’re 30 and can enjoy it, you get it when you’re too old to do any thing with it.
Sorry, but that's bIn one bit he makes a good point: people will say that if you don’t do something (e.g. smoking / bad diet) you’ll live longer, but you don’t get the extra time when you’re 30 and can enjoy it, you get it when you’re too old to do any thing with it.
ks. You don't double the length of your 30s, but start to reap the rewards in your 60s (or even 50s...). You live longer, but more importantly have fewer years of disability.I'll be disappointed if I don't see my 90s, would like to make 100.
Downward said:
Parents are 84 and 82,
They live in a house with really steep stairs, The toilet is downstairs, Wonder if it’s worth a chat about moving a bed to the spade front room ?
They will probably whinge about losing the dining room but surely a bed downstairs is better for them ?
Possibly the opposite. Having to go up and down the stairs is giving them exercise and May help them stay fit They live in a house with really steep stairs, The toilet is downstairs, Wonder if it’s worth a chat about moving a bed to the spade front room ?
They will probably whinge about losing the dining room but surely a bed downstairs is better for them ?
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