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Hmm bit wierd reading all this, my brother was killed by a complete idiot who managed to get his Scooby to fly.
He got 4 years, it would have been easier if he'd shown remorse but he didn't.
I think if I was ever unfortunate enough to be in your position I'd feel like you do, hopefully I will never have to find out.
He got 4 years, it would have been easier if he'd shown remorse but he didn't.
I think if I was ever unfortunate enough to be in your position I'd feel like you do, hopefully I will never have to find out.
10 pence short: very sobering and heartfelt account. I could certainly have been in the same situation on occasion so I take it as a very thought provoking posting.It is very scary to think how quickly perfectly normal lives can be completely derailed.
Edited by RDMcG on Tuesday 25th September 16:29
Haven't read the thread yet, but didn't see 1 prison story on the first page..so here's mine.
Been there done that.
Came back from hols with my nipper several years ago, and t'missus says 'the cops were here looking for you'
That was the phase of my life on the dole and throwing away every single car fine that I got. The letters kept coming threatening courts bailiffs etc, but kept chucking them away. Hence the visit.
Off I go to Highbury nick, to 'give myself up'
Put in the basement with a 'regular' and discovered 'borstal meanie' roll-ups. About 10 strands of baccy!
Up b4 the magistrate that afternoon, was all very quick, just said yup guilty and I'm not paying all the parking fines. 5 days imprisonment!
Later that evening, taken off to Pentonville in the meat wagon.
Put your clothes/possesions in a box, get the uniform, shown to the cell.
Get 15mins to call someone.
Cellmate was someone got caught bringing Speed with his usually tobacco runs from France.
A few observations:-
1) People in clink are just the same as the ones outside, normal blokes, with normal lives, just unfortunate they got caught.
2) Most people had been there before. Like the guy who gave me a roll-up got in with all sorts of stuff, like pen, ciggy lighter etc which 'should' have been taken away. He knew where to hide stuff. First timers were definitely the minority, almost rare.
3) No-one was angry with 'the system' just accepted the unfortunate fact of being nabbed!
4) Easy to get fat there, three good meals a day!! (I don't usually eat that much) Grub was alright, most exciting part of the day.
5) Plenty of people - the drop outs of society- I believe preferred it inside to outside. Nice and warm bed, food and (most importantly) a social life. Never want of someone to talk to!! Easy to make friends etc.
6) Nothing at all nasty happened inside.
7) Boring as f**k! Saturday night, hearing music from pubs etc along Pentonville Road was well annoying!
8) I don't think prison life is a deterrant. It's just boring.
9) I suppose I was in the wing of pathetic crimes, but most were just nicking stuff, drunk and fighting, hit the wife nothing that you would say 'that bloke is a criminal'
10) They give you a money allowance, to buy fags/phonecards/chocolate bar. Can't remember, but less than 2 quid, but still...
11) I thought, if these are just ordinary blokes, they must represent a percentage of actual 'criminals' as the ones that get caught which means most crims are outside!
Went in on Friday out on Monday, and with my allowance came out with 11 quid in my pocket!
And didn't pay any parking fines!
Been there done that.
Came back from hols with my nipper several years ago, and t'missus says 'the cops were here looking for you'
That was the phase of my life on the dole and throwing away every single car fine that I got. The letters kept coming threatening courts bailiffs etc, but kept chucking them away. Hence the visit.
Off I go to Highbury nick, to 'give myself up'
Put in the basement with a 'regular' and discovered 'borstal meanie' roll-ups. About 10 strands of baccy!
Up b4 the magistrate that afternoon, was all very quick, just said yup guilty and I'm not paying all the parking fines. 5 days imprisonment!
Later that evening, taken off to Pentonville in the meat wagon.
Put your clothes/possesions in a box, get the uniform, shown to the cell.
Get 15mins to call someone.
Cellmate was someone got caught bringing Speed with his usually tobacco runs from France.
A few observations:-
1) People in clink are just the same as the ones outside, normal blokes, with normal lives, just unfortunate they got caught.
2) Most people had been there before. Like the guy who gave me a roll-up got in with all sorts of stuff, like pen, ciggy lighter etc which 'should' have been taken away. He knew where to hide stuff. First timers were definitely the minority, almost rare.
3) No-one was angry with 'the system' just accepted the unfortunate fact of being nabbed!
4) Easy to get fat there, three good meals a day!! (I don't usually eat that much) Grub was alright, most exciting part of the day.
5) Plenty of people - the drop outs of society- I believe preferred it inside to outside. Nice and warm bed, food and (most importantly) a social life. Never want of someone to talk to!! Easy to make friends etc.
6) Nothing at all nasty happened inside.
7) Boring as f**k! Saturday night, hearing music from pubs etc along Pentonville Road was well annoying!
8) I don't think prison life is a deterrant. It's just boring.
9) I suppose I was in the wing of pathetic crimes, but most were just nicking stuff, drunk and fighting, hit the wife nothing that you would say 'that bloke is a criminal'
10) They give you a money allowance, to buy fags/phonecards/chocolate bar. Can't remember, but less than 2 quid, but still...
11) I thought, if these are just ordinary blokes, they must represent a percentage of actual 'criminals' as the ones that get caught which means most crims are outside!
Went in on Friday out on Monday, and with my allowance came out with 11 quid in my pocket!
And didn't pay any parking fines!
Zod said:
The big problem with a short prison sentence for many of us would be the effect on our careers. Prison doesn't look good on a professional CV.
CV? means economize on the truth.... I always lie when anyone asks about criminal records. F*** 'em they ain't gonna check unless it is really high security jobs etc.bri_the_fly said:
Zod said:
The big problem with a short prison sentence for many of us would be the effect on our careers. Prison doesn't look good on a professional CV.
CV? means economize on the truth.... I always lie when anyone asks about criminal records. F*** 'em they ain't gonna check unless it is really high security jobs etc.10p,
A couple of questions:
A couple of questions:
- Do you have any contact with the motorcyclist and do you know how he is getting on? Is there anything you can do for him or doesn't it work like that?
- Your account of having everything removed on entrance and your father being told to put the lid back on his drink sounds like they're extremely thorough in stopping drugs getting in, but you said drugs are readily available / everywhere. How are they getting in then?
Edited by pikey on Tuesday 25th September 16:53
bri_the_fly said:
Zod said:
The big problem with a short prison sentence for many of us would be the effect on our careers. Prison doesn't look good on a professional CV.
CV? means economize on the truth.... I always lie when anyone asks about criminal records. F*** 'em they ain't gonna check unless it is really high security jobs etc.pikey said:
10p,
A couple of questions:
During the immediate aftermath I was in contact with the Police about his condition. A friend of mine who works for the emergency services also risked his job by finding out how he was on a regular basis for me. I never realised how long the process was going to take from the accident to being prosecuted, it took very nearly a year. It was 6 months before I knew I was even being charged.A couple of questions:
- Do you have any contact with the motorcyclist and do you know how he is getting on? Is there anything you can do for him or doesn't it work like that?
During that year I was torn, I didn't know whether to write to the guy or not. I didn't want anyone to feel I was trying to effect the sentence I'd receive by attemtping to get on the 'good side' of the injured guy. I didn't even know if I was allowed to contact him, the Police werne't too helpful in that respect.
In the end, the next time I saw him after the accident was at the sentencing itself. I prepared a letter which tried to explain my thoughts, he understandably didn't want to talk to me himself, in his shoes I'd feel the same. The letter was handed, sealed, to the CPS and it was requested they give it to him. I aven't heard anything back, and I never expected to.
pikey said:
* Your account of having everything removed on entrance and your father being told to put the lid back on his drink sounds like they're extremely thorough in stopping drugs getting in, but you said drugs are readily available / everywhere. How do are they getting in then?
Use your imagination! There's one place the officers don't like searching. More inventive ones are things like oranges thrown over the fence into the exercise yard. Trust me, the inmates aren't actually fighting over an orange. 
Vesuvius 996 said:
bri_the_fly said:
Zod said:
The big problem with a short prison sentence for many of us would be the effect on our careers. Prison doesn't look good on a professional CV.
CV? means economize on the truth.... I always lie when anyone asks about criminal records. F*** 'em they ain't gonna check unless it is really high security jobs etc.I see it like this. I prefer to forget bad episodes of my life. Maybe that forgetting is actually permenant!
If a cop ever asks 'have you ever been in trouble with the police before' and you say 'yes', you know for sure there will be more questions to come, lots of them and they'll use that against the current situation. Likewise tick the 'no' box and it's easier not to furnish the details (and bring all those memories of being a bad lad back).
Is there a picture on my myspace profile with a bag of swag and crim written on it? Don't think so. Is someone really going to trawl through all the text and put 2 and 2 together and tell my employers....don't think so either.
That was the "moral" of my prison story, that it made no real difference to my 'crime' and my life-at the time. Yeah, it made me think a lot, and probably made me a better person now, and learn a few 'tricks' .
I was totally moved by your diary contents.bri_the_fly said:
Vesuvius 996 said:
bri_the_fly said:
Zod said:
The big problem with a short prison sentence for many of us would be the effect on our careers. Prison doesn't look good on a professional CV.
CV? means economize on the truth.... I always lie when anyone asks about criminal records. F*** 'em they ain't gonna check unless it is really high security jobs etc.Personally I'd delete all references to your employer at least. Currently it would only take someone about 30 secs to possibly cost you your job.
mystomachehurts said:
10 Pence Short said:
DIARY
I remember following your thread in SP&L with great interest.I want to second what others are saying. Please keep the posts coming, so far they are rivetting and provide an insight into circumstances and situations that many won't ever see.
Thanks!
Edited by mystomachehurts on Tuesday 25th September 10:40
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