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Only just caught this thread. Every so often the "where have the old school PHers gone" comes up and its interesting to see its not all stropping off in a huff or Dokics called out for their B/S.
Question was raised before but the TVR Moneypit I remember was one who seemed perpetually skint trying to battle the bills on an old Chim (haven't we all been there). So if this little enterprise was filling coffers with cash quicker than you can spend it, as the headlines lead you to believe, surely you should have been T'Bopping more than tearing strips of hair out trying to keep an old Chim on the road?
Interestingly I also remember a lot of the tales of you and your wife and the pregnancy. Glad to hear that she is now the apple of your eye, even if you missed many of the formulative years. It was an interesting subject matter at the time as your attitude to parenthood mirrored my own.
Question was raised before but the TVR Moneypit I remember was one who seemed perpetually skint trying to battle the bills on an old Chim (haven't we all been there). So if this little enterprise was filling coffers with cash quicker than you can spend it, as the headlines lead you to believe, surely you should have been T'Bopping more than tearing strips of hair out trying to keep an old Chim on the road?
Interestingly I also remember a lot of the tales of you and your wife and the pregnancy. Glad to hear that she is now the apple of your eye, even if you missed many of the formulative years. It was an interesting subject matter at the time as your attitude to parenthood mirrored my own.
Shnozz said:
Only just caught this thread. Every so often the "where have the old school PHers gone" comes up and its interesting to see its not all stropping off in a huff or Dokics called out for their B/S.
Question was raised before but the TVR Moneypit I remember was one who seemed perpetually skint trying to battle the bills on an old Chim (haven't we all been there). So if this little enterprise was filling coffers with cash quicker than you can spend it, as the headlines lead you to believe, surely you should have been T'Bopping more than tearing strips of hair out trying to keep an old Chim on the road?
Interestingly I also remember a lot of the tales of you and your wife and the pregnancy. Glad to hear that she is now the apple of your eye, even if you missed many of the formulative years. It was an interesting subject matter at the time as your attitude to parenthood mirrored my own.
Perhaps the chim/ money posts were part of the paranoia about being caught. I would guess that TVRM would assume the old bill could well be watching his every move, including his online presence, and didn’t want to raise suspicion?Question was raised before but the TVR Moneypit I remember was one who seemed perpetually skint trying to battle the bills on an old Chim (haven't we all been there). So if this little enterprise was filling coffers with cash quicker than you can spend it, as the headlines lead you to believe, surely you should have been T'Bopping more than tearing strips of hair out trying to keep an old Chim on the road?
Interestingly I also remember a lot of the tales of you and your wife and the pregnancy. Glad to hear that she is now the apple of your eye, even if you missed many of the formulative years. It was an interesting subject matter at the time as your attitude to parenthood mirrored my own.
Not sure what his profile might have said about him at the time, but perhaps his posts needed to fit in with his supposed occupation etc?
eltax91 said:
Perhaps the chim/ money posts were part of the paranoia about being caught. I would guess that TVRM would assume the old bill could well be watching his every move, including his online presence, and didn’t want to raise suspicion?
Not sure what his profile might have said about him at the time, but perhaps his posts needed to fit in with his supposed occupation etc?
Fair enough. I can think of better ways to cover my tracks than pretend I was trying to run an old TVR on a shoestring. For one, I just wouldn't post. Not sure what his profile might have said about him at the time, but perhaps his posts needed to fit in with his supposed occupation etc?
DRFC1879 said:
Perhaps the flow of "legit" cash for day-to-day stuff was modest compared to the stuff tied up in expensive stock/being cleaned etc.?
I would not presume to know TVRMP's situation, but the people I've known in his profession have often not had as much money as people imagined. So said:
I would not presume to know TVRMP's situation, but the people I've known in his profession have often not had as much money as people imagined.
£1m seizure of Bolivian may sound like a big number, but when purchase costs, transportation, importation, processing, distribution is taken care of, and the profits split accordingly between the various people involved, I can imagine the "wage" earned by each person is a mere fraction of the street value of the goods handledjdw100 said:
Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:
Funny that, someone recently mentioned that nugget on the tenuous celebrity link thread, having met him.
He was in prison here in Bali. Someone bribed someone to get him released early. An under the table deal.
I know some people will say f
k him its all self inflicted etc... and to some extent it is as you choose to take that first needle full of smack. But at that point of addiction its anything but a choice... does anyone really think he'd want to live like that? If he wasn't smacked up he could be living anywhere in the world, with his choice of Gordons restaurants to work in. Ronnie can cook, he'd be fine in any of those kitchens.Thanks for posting TVRMP, I realise what a sheltered life I have led with very little exposure to drugs at all.
I have a mate who says he went down for firearms offences , ie shoved a shotgun in someones face during a row , I know he did some time but reckon it might be for some kind of theft and he is embarrassed about telling the truth. He does have a very short fuse got in trouble in recent years for beating up a mechanic who said the wrong thing to him, also caught a smack head breaking into his car and was held for a while on ABH
I have a mate who says he went down for firearms offences , ie shoved a shotgun in someones face during a row , I know he did some time but reckon it might be for some kind of theft and he is embarrassed about telling the truth. He does have a very short fuse got in trouble in recent years for beating up a mechanic who said the wrong thing to him, also caught a smack head breaking into his car and was held for a while on ABH
So said:
DRFC1879 said:
Perhaps the flow of "legit" cash for day-to-day stuff was modest compared to the stuff tied up in expensive stock/being cleaned etc.?
I would not presume to know TVRMP's situation, but the people I've known in his profession have often not had as much money as people imagined. http://articles.latimes.com/2005/apr/24/opinion/oe...
Ayahuasca said:
From Freakonomics - 'Why Drug Dealers live with their Moms' -
http://articles.latimes.com/2005/apr/24/opinion/oe...
Interesting article. http://articles.latimes.com/2005/apr/24/opinion/oe...
I actually thought the answer would be along the lines of "because nowadays you can't buy a house or pay a monthly mortgage with duffel bag of cash".
magnum555 said:
Very interesting thread and good luck to you TVR, hope all goes well.
Found the article and it mentioned the gang was turning over 400 to 500k a month. How accurate is this and how much were you getting each month?
If anyone from POCA is reading, I did his accounts and it was £1.50 a month...Found the article and it mentioned the gang was turning over 400 to 500k a month. How accurate is this and how much were you getting each month?
Or in other words, I don't think you are likely to get an answer to this.
SeeFive said:
magnum555 said:
Very interesting thread and good luck to you TVR, hope all goes well.
Found the article and it mentioned the gang was turning over 400 to 500k a month. How accurate is this and how much were you getting each month?
If anyone from POCA is reading, I did his accounts and it was £1.50 a month...Found the article and it mentioned the gang was turning over 400 to 500k a month. How accurate is this and how much were you getting each month?
Or in other words, I don't think you are likely to get an answer to this.
Clearly he won’t answer that, nor would I expect him to, but if you’re running a high-risk operation like that and NOT safeguarding a pile of cash, that’s mental.
TheJimi said:
As I alluded to previously, you’d think that someone with the gumption to run a such an operation, would also have the gumption to annex a pile of cash in case he get’s sprung.
Clearly he won’t answer that, nor would I expect him to, but if you’re running a high-risk operation like that and NOT safeguarding a pile of cash, that’s mental.
If he did, 6 years in the clink with a family to support would make a sizeable dent. Clearly he won’t answer that, nor would I expect him to, but if you’re running a high-risk operation like that and NOT safeguarding a pile of cash, that’s mental.
Mr Roper said:
TheJimi said:
As I alluded to previously, you’d think that someone with the gumption to run a such an operation, would also have the gumption to annex a pile of cash in case he get’s sprung.
Clearly he won’t answer that, nor would I expect him to, but if you’re running a high-risk operation like that and NOT safeguarding a pile of cash, that’s mental.
If he did, 6 years in the clink with a family to support would make a sizeable dent. Clearly he won’t answer that, nor would I expect him to, but if you’re running a high-risk operation like that and NOT safeguarding a pile of cash, that’s mental.
Playing a game where you could potentially disappear for years at a time, given the sums of money going through your hands, you'd surely have provisions in place for those who depend on you, or even just on general principles.
TheJimi said:
As I alluded to previously, you’d think that someone with the gumption to run a such an operation, would also have the gumption to annex a pile of cash in case he get’s sprung.
Clearly he won’t answer that, nor would I expect him to, but if you’re running a high-risk operation like that and NOT safeguarding a pile of cash, that’s mental.
How much do you think the guy getting paid to go actually pick up the deliveries is getting paid?? Clearly he won’t answer that, nor would I expect him to, but if you’re running a high-risk operation like that and NOT safeguarding a pile of cash, that’s mental.
He wasn't running the operation if he was the guy being sent to take the risk of getting nicked picking it up. Isn't that obvious?
No doubt the actual real players either came out of jail to a pile of cash, or never visited jail in the first place. TVR done his job... he was expendable as the delivery boy by the looks of things...
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