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cloggy

4,959 posts

209 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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Adenauer said:
10p, this stuff has to be published, it takes you into a different world, seriously.
Totally agree.

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

271 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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cloggy said:
Adenauer said:
10p, this stuff has to be published, it takes you into a different world, seriously.
Totally agree.
Me too.

Seriously write it up and submit it to the Times. If you make any money on it, give it to the biker who got hurt, maybe?


Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Tuesday 25th September 13:48

Adenauer

18,580 posts

236 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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Vesuvius 996 said:
cloggy said:
Adenauer said:
10p, this stuff has to be published, it takes you into a different world, seriously.
Totally agree.
Me too.

Seriously write it up and submit it to the Times. If you make any money on it, give it to the biker who got hurt, maybe?


Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Tuesday 25th September 13:48
I love it when a plan comes together woohoo

What do you have to lose? And in the meantime you may even make a few people think about the possible consequences of driving too fast, you have with me smile

Adenauer

18,580 posts

236 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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Vesuvius 996 said:
Seriously write it up and submit it to the Times. If you make any money on it, give it to the biker who got hurt, maybe?


Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Tuesday 25th September 13:48
It's probably something youngs lads just about to leave school should be made to read, so maybe not The Times? wink

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

271 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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Adenauer said:
Vesuvius 996 said:
Seriously write it up and submit it to the Times. If you make any money on it, give it to the biker who got hurt, maybe?


Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Tuesday 25th September 13:48
It's probably something youngs lads just about to leave school should be made to read, so maybe not The Times? wink
Good point. Maybe MAX Power might print it!

Davi

17,153 posts

220 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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Vesuvius 996 said:
Adenauer said:
Vesuvius 996 said:
Seriously write it up and submit it to the Times. If you make any money on it, give it to the biker who got hurt, maybe?


Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Tuesday 25th September 13:48
It's probably something youngs lads just about to leave school should be made to read, so maybe not The Times? wink
Good point. Maybe MAX Power might print it!
yes very good idea.

kiwisr

9,335 posts

207 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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been done before though - Jeffrey Archer.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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kiwisr said:
been done before though - Jeffrey Archer.
Ironically I read those in prison. He got it pretty easy!

Adenauer

18,580 posts

236 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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kiwisr said:
been done before though - Jeffrey Archer.
Not like this it hasn't, young motorists need to read this smile

Tina K

20,829 posts

212 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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Jeffrey Archer is a weaselly scumbag. Although people are interested in his experiences of prison, I think most would agree that he got what was coming to him.

10p, what makes your story so powerful is the fact that one day you're a regular guy, good job, girlfriend etc, and that a moment can change all that. It's one of the most moving personal accounts I've read in a long time - let it out.

Edited by Tina K on Tuesday 25th September 14:47

Adenauer

18,580 posts

236 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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Tina K said:
10p, what makes your story so powerful is the fact that one day you're a regular guy, good job, girlfriend etc, and that a moment can change all that. It's one of the most moving personal accounts I've read in a long time - let it out.

Edited by Tina K on Tuesday 25th September 14:47
Spot on cool

Pappa Lurve

3,827 posts

282 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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10p, utterly moving mate. I would love to read more and I do think that there is a publication there, or at least an article - YHM

phil1979

3,548 posts

215 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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10p - seriously, you're a very good writer. Many people think they are, but are not. There's real humility in there - I never read anything on PH more than 3 lines long, whereas I was gripped by what you have written, especially the way you describe the events immediately after the accident. I'd definitely pay to read more, and I dare say would be very therapeutic for you to do so.

P.

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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10p - I'll add my sentiments to your plight and description.

Two questions come to mind:

1) To what degree was the motorcyclist contributory (if any) eg by going round the bend too fast?
2) Did a year in prison make you a better/safer/more thoughtful driver or did the effect of the accident make the difference? In other words, what did your year inside achieve, either to you or to society?

Meeja

8,289 posts

248 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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A friend of mine has just published her teenage diaries.

And although the subject matter is totally different, the concept is the same.

Your diary entries that you have put up here for us to read put many published works to shame. (Including hers)

I suspect that many decent publishers would happily talk to you if you were prepared to actually go the whole hog.... and as others have said, it may prove to be theraputic for you.



Edited by Meeja on Tuesday 25th September 15:13

Mahatma Bag

27,427 posts

279 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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Have to agree it's a gripping story.

How does the pooing work with your cellmate there? Do you say, 'I'd give it a minute or two before you go to the other end of the cell'? Do you have an agreement to look the other way? Do you try and wait until cellmate is asleep and then curl a silent one out?

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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Simpo Two said:
10p - I'll add my sentiments to your plight and description.

Two questions come to mind:

1) To what degree was the motorcyclist contributory (if any) eg by going round the bend too fast?
The motorcyclist did absolutely nothing wrong. There was a full accident investigation unit at the scene (the road was closed for 5 hours to measure up and photograph). They estimated that his speed was between 30 and 60 mph. He was measured to have had only 36 metres to see my vehicle blocking the road (and still moving slowly towards him), react and brake. Even at the lower end of that scale, he wouldn't have enough time to have braked and avoided my car. From memory they deduced that he had between 1.1 and 2.2 seconds to react. He was not 'on a jolly', he was travelling from his home to a holiday cottage in the lakes.

He was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. It could easily have been a car or even a truck coming the other way. Sadly for him, it was a vulnerable motorbike.


Simpo Two said:
2) Did a year in prison make you a better/safer/more thoughtful driver or did the effect of the accident make the difference? In other words, what did your year inside achieve, either to you or to society?
I was imprisoned in April of this year, and released under Home Detention Curfew at the end of July. Fortunately I didn't have to spend a whole year in prison.

As for driving, I spent a year between the accident and my conviction driving. My job meant I was driving 65,000 a year and that had to continue. From the moment I got out my trashed car I realised I'd never drive a car for fun on the road again. I spent a year driving like Miss Daisy, and if I get my licence back in just under 3 years time, that's how it'll continue. I'll do what I should have done in the past, and keep jollies for trackdays.

My opinion about my sentence is divided. I was guilty of seriously hurting a person through my actions. I'd be lying if I said I agreed with the chrge of dangerous driving, and an awful lot of the evidence used against me. It's natural to want to defend yourself. My driving was more serious than careless driving, but at the time, I didn't feel I was driving in a way that was likely to cause any harm. I was wrong.

It doesn't really matter what punishment was handed down to me in respect of the life sentence I imposed on the innocent party. Everything I write on this subject should always be read with that in mind. I'm not the injured one.

Cumbria, particularly last year, has had a massive problem with rural casualities due to fast driving. My case was a perfect example to use as a warning to other motorists. The catastrophic injuries caused to the motorcyclist were also key in ensuring a custodial sentence was necessary. I understand the reasoning behind that and remain pragmatic about it. The time to have changed things was shortly before 12.15pm on the 30th April 2006. I didn't, so I have to stand by my actions and accept what's come to me.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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Mahatma Bag said:
Have to agree it's a gripping story.

How does the pooing work with your cellmate there? Do you say, 'I'd give it a minute or two before you go to the other end of the cell'? Do you have an agreement to look the other way? Do you try and wait until cellmate is asleep and then curl a silent one out?
I managed a full 5 days or so before having to pop one out. I think a combination of the stress and hardly eating relieved me of that horror for a while. You do tend to wait for the right opportunities, and you take them when they come along. You just can't mitigate the horror and the smell of having a grown man poo in such close proximity.

Sheriff JWPepper

3,851 posts

204 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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10 Pence Short said:
You just can't mitigate the horror and the smell of having a grown man poo in such close proximity.
10p, you have great way with words, this one made me chuckle.

lazyitus

19,926 posts

266 months

Tuesday 25th September 2007
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10p -

Just a note of caution. I think I'm right in saying that Pistonheads has a copywrite attachment. So I'd seek some advice from mods before you start writing all your words down on here.

smile
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