Strange neighbour problems....Cameras..
Discussion
thanks for the suggestions guys, I have spoken with the local cop shop and they will send the community bobby round for tea and biscuits at some point. I asked if I would be allowed to erect a banner over my back fence to block his line of sight, they said this may provoke him lol!
Thing is there is no vandalism or breaking in of sheds as we are a kind of walled off estate which backs onto the canal so not that many people around. The more I think how he went off on one the more I get wound up, he was acting like he was the wounded party and I was being totally reasonable.
I am taking the afternoon off I think and am gonna go raise the height of my fences by way of a blank banner in his line of sight and see what he does.
Thing is there is no vandalism or breaking in of sheds as we are a kind of walled off estate which backs onto the canal so not that many people around. The more I think how he went off on one the more I get wound up, he was acting like he was the wounded party and I was being totally reasonable.
I am taking the afternoon off I think and am gonna go raise the height of my fences by way of a blank banner in his line of sight and see what he does.
I dunno. If he was a kiddie fiddler you would have thought he would have got rid of the camera the moment someone took exception? I would either:
1) Mount a camera in your back garden and point it into his house. Maybe get one of those massive ones you see on the corners of buildings in the town with spikes on and infrared.
2)Lodge a complaint to the coppers and casually mention that your daughters bedroom has been a target of this camera. No need to actually drop the P-Bomb.. let them work it out
1) Mount a camera in your back garden and point it into his house. Maybe get one of those massive ones you see on the corners of buildings in the town with spikes on and infrared.
2)Lodge a complaint to the coppers and casually mention that your daughters bedroom has been a target of this camera. No need to actually drop the P-Bomb.. let them work it out
dunkie said:
thanks for the suggestions guys, I have spoken with the local cop shop and they will send the community bobby round for tea and biscuits at some point. I asked if I would be allowed to erect a banner over my back fence to block his line of sight, they said this may provoke him lol!
Thing is there is no vandalism or breaking in of sheds as we are a kind of walled off estate which backs onto the canal so not that many people around. The more I think how he went off on one the more I get wound up, he was acting like he was the wounded party and I was being totally reasonable.
I am taking the afternoon off I think and am gonna go raise the height of my fences by way of a blank banner in his line of sight and see what he does.
Thing is there is no vandalism or breaking in of sheds as we are a kind of walled off estate which backs onto the canal so not that many people around. The more I think how he went off on one the more I get wound up, he was acting like he was the wounded party and I was being totally reasonable.
I am taking the afternoon off I think and am gonna go raise the height of my fences by way of a blank banner in his line of sight and see what he does.
dunkie said:
I am taking the afternoon off I think and am gonna go raise the height of my fences by way of a blank banner in his line of sight and see what he does.
I was going to suggest erecting something to block the camera's view of your house, i.e. make it painfully obvious that all it's intended to do is block the camera. If he moves the camera to get a better view or complains (on what grounds, you'd want to know?), then you know it's completely deliberate and can pass this info on to the plod.dunkie said:
Having some issues with my neighbour (well the guy directly behind my house).
My house is a 4 bed detached which is on a canal side, my neighbours house backs onto mine, we have lived her over a year now and its lovely, no trouble and its a very quiet neighbourhood.
But.... Over the last few weeks my neighbour had started to erect camera's about his property and some strange things have been happening. He has put one camera on the top of his shed, its a motorised affair but it basically looks into the gardens and windows of all the neighbouring houses. Over the course of the last couple of days I have noticed each morning that the camera has been sat at a fixed position looking into my two back bedrooms, most concerning is that one of these bedrooms is occupied by my 6 year old daughter. I approached him yesterday for a quiet chat and it didnt really go too well as he started to get aggressive and so I walked away before I showed him what I have learned in my 8 years of muay thai. Not wanting to start a war with him but I am getting more and more pissed off with this camera, one suggestion was to cut the
er down or spray pain over the lens but I am not at that stage yet!
Thing is I have a lot of glass (conservatory, big windows, french doors) through the house, so he basically can see everything and its not starting to annoy me that he is invading my privacy.
I am not gonna accuse him of anything dodgy (he was trying to get me to call him a paedo lol!) but I am not happy and am considering involving the police, I havent had a chat with my other neighbours as yet but intend to do so.
Would the police be interested in helping me out? Or am I being very paranoid?
If you've spoken to him about it and he's reacted like this then its definatly time to get the authorities involved. No, dont call him a Paedo. But yes, time to protect your family. What if he actually is? My house is a 4 bed detached which is on a canal side, my neighbours house backs onto mine, we have lived her over a year now and its lovely, no trouble and its a very quiet neighbourhood.
But.... Over the last few weeks my neighbour had started to erect camera's about his property and some strange things have been happening. He has put one camera on the top of his shed, its a motorised affair but it basically looks into the gardens and windows of all the neighbouring houses. Over the course of the last couple of days I have noticed each morning that the camera has been sat at a fixed position looking into my two back bedrooms, most concerning is that one of these bedrooms is occupied by my 6 year old daughter. I approached him yesterday for a quiet chat and it didnt really go too well as he started to get aggressive and so I walked away before I showed him what I have learned in my 8 years of muay thai. Not wanting to start a war with him but I am getting more and more pissed off with this camera, one suggestion was to cut the
er down or spray pain over the lens but I am not at that stage yet!Thing is I have a lot of glass (conservatory, big windows, french doors) through the house, so he basically can see everything and its not starting to annoy me that he is invading my privacy.
I am not gonna accuse him of anything dodgy (he was trying to get me to call him a paedo lol!) but I am not happy and am considering involving the police, I havent had a chat with my other neighbours as yet but intend to do so.
Would the police be interested in helping me out? Or am I being very paranoid?
He's probably got (what he thinks is) a valid reason for this camera. However,it does not give him the right to do it. He is activly affecting your life already, intruding on your privacy at very least.
take some photos of the camera, and its position etc.
His actions are completly unreasonable and his reaction to you is also unreasonable. If he had a valid reason for doing this he should have take your concerns fully on board and reasured you that it wasnt intentional to spy on you and he would have altered the positioning. His unreasonable behavious to you is overtly defensive in my opinion.
dunkie said:
Having some issues with my neighbour (well the guy directly behind my house).
My house is a 4 bed detached which is on a canal side, my neighbours house backs onto mine, we have lived her over a year now and its lovely, no trouble and its a very quiet neighbourhood.
But.... Over the last few weeks my neighbour had started to erect camera's about his property and some strange things have been happening. He has put one camera on the top of his shed, its a motorised affair but it basically looks into the gardens and windows of all the neighbouring houses. Over the course of the last couple of days I have noticed each morning that the camera has been sat at a fixed position looking into my two back bedrooms, most concerning is that one of these bedrooms is occupied by my 6 year old daughter. I approached him yesterday for a quiet chat and it didnt really go too well as he started to get aggressive and so I walked away before I showed him what I have learned in my 8 years of muay thai. Not wanting to start a war with him but I am getting more and more pissed off with this camera, one suggestion was to cut theer down or spray pain over the lens but I am not at that stage yet!
Thing is I have a lot of glass (conservatory, big windows, french doors) through the house, so he basically can see everything and its not starting to annoy me that he is invading my privacy.
I am not gonna accuse him of anything dodgy (he was trying to get me to call him a paedo lol!) but I am not happy and am considering involving the police, I havent had a chat with my other neighbours as yet but intend to do so.
Would the police be interested in helping me out? Or am I being very paranoid?
Hire a camera man on a cherry picker and get him back. My house is a 4 bed detached which is on a canal side, my neighbours house backs onto mine, we have lived her over a year now and its lovely, no trouble and its a very quiet neighbourhood.
But.... Over the last few weeks my neighbour had started to erect camera's about his property and some strange things have been happening. He has put one camera on the top of his shed, its a motorised affair but it basically looks into the gardens and windows of all the neighbouring houses. Over the course of the last couple of days I have noticed each morning that the camera has been sat at a fixed position looking into my two back bedrooms, most concerning is that one of these bedrooms is occupied by my 6 year old daughter. I approached him yesterday for a quiet chat and it didnt really go too well as he started to get aggressive and so I walked away before I showed him what I have learned in my 8 years of muay thai. Not wanting to start a war with him but I am getting more and more pissed off with this camera, one suggestion was to cut the
er down or spray pain over the lens but I am not at that stage yet!Thing is I have a lot of glass (conservatory, big windows, french doors) through the house, so he basically can see everything and its not starting to annoy me that he is invading my privacy.
I am not gonna accuse him of anything dodgy (he was trying to get me to call him a paedo lol!) but I am not happy and am considering involving the police, I havent had a chat with my other neighbours as yet but intend to do so.
Would the police be interested in helping me out? Or am I being very paranoid?
TonyHetherington said:
That he's done it so obvilusly is surprising. Surely if you were of questionable motives, you woudln't erect a camera on top of a shed with fully motorised "I'm looking here" equipment?!
You'd be all covert, like.
You seem to know an awful lot about covert kiddie surveillanceYou'd be all covert, like.
silversun said:
SpydieNut said:
ok, but - why did he not only fail to take the OP's concerns seriously, but actually get aggressive?
also, why, if he's had vandelism etc, did he not say that was why the cameras were up.
even if it is innocent, he should restrict their field of vision to his own property.
God, I knew I was going to get grief for this. I'm not defending the guy, merely saying that painting him as a paedo without any evidence is wrong.also, why, if he's had vandelism etc, did he not say that was why the cameras were up.
even if it is innocent, he should restrict their field of vision to his own property.
I have no idea why the guy got aggressive or why he didn't say what the cameras were for. I'm not psychic. On a speculative basis, someone who's in a serious neighbour dispute or been repeatedly targeted by vandals/thieves may be defensive and upset which was why he reacted badly. Which is why I suggested writing to him and explaining that his cameras are pointing into the OP's house and his daughter's bedroom and it's making them all uncomfortable, then asking him to redirect the cameras quoting any relevent piece of legislation.
Yes, I totally agree the field of vision should be restricted to how own property.
Pretty difficult situation really. I would obviously be annoyed if I was in your shoes, sounds like you took the neighbourly approach of a quiet chat which he took exception to?. Cant see what his problem is. I'm sure you have to put signs up if you use CCTV, but even so it cant be right him doing this. I'm not sure if its really illegal though, anyone who lives in any high street in the country will have loads of cameras potentially looking through their windows.
Hope all goes well with the local bobby, common sense should prevail!.
Hope all goes well with the local bobby, common sense should prevail!.
We had a state of the art CCTV system at my old dealership was brilliant you could zoom in so close that you could read a newspaper left on the passanger seat of a car 3/400 yards away.
Anyhow when the people came to inspect the building, before it was opened to the puplic, the police where told of this system and they insisted that the picture was blacked out when the camaras where pointed towards the housing estate oposite.
from that I'd say its illegal to do what he is doing!
Anyhow when the people came to inspect the building, before it was opened to the puplic, the police where told of this system and they insisted that the picture was blacked out when the camaras where pointed towards the housing estate oposite.
from that I'd say its illegal to do what he is doing!
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