Ambulance... Ambiwlans - Has dumbing down gone too far?
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Timmy45 said:
warch said:
Timmy45 said:
This is what infuriates so many Welsh people, that the Welsh language lobby act as though they are the only Welsh people, and that there's is the only voice that matters.
My friend at work often claims he is made to feel like he is not properly Welsh whenever he goes to North-west Wales. He's from Wrexham.Incidentally I am English and have never directly received any anti English abuse or made to feel in any way unwelcome in over 20 years living or working in the country.
I then make the point that as an English person working in these same areas I have never encountered any antipathy.
P-Jay said:
warch said:
Rh14n said:
ks on this. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone in Newport who speaks Welsh, let alone in the wider south-east Wales region. It's one of those irritating hokey feel good tales that periodically do the rounds on social meeja.Less so now, but a few decades ago Newport and Cardiff were such massive ports still that you'd hear a multitude of accents and languages, sadly the most accurate part of the story is the likelihood of a d
head on a bus spouting off about who should speak what and why. 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36580448/wel...
Really? That really happened?
Only if I wanted to make a point about racial intolerance, that's pretty much the sort of story I'd come up with.
Incidentally this story has been doing the rounds for years, only when it last appeared on Facebook it was a bus in Cwmbran. I'm pretty certain this never happened or its been embellished. For me it has all the trappings of an urban myth.
Only if I wanted to make a point about racial intolerance, that's pretty much the sort of story I'd come up with.
Incidentally this story has been doing the rounds for years, only when it last appeared on Facebook it was a bus in Cwmbran. I'm pretty certain this never happened or its been embellished. For me it has all the trappings of an urban myth.
Well, at least this bloke put his own name to it instead of "someone told me that..." It might still be horse manure, I concede.
I would challenge the concept that minorities don't speak Welsh though. I'll grant you that it's rare, but I grew up knowing a few Indians and Sri Lankans who moved to Wales and felt strongly that their children should be able to speak Welsh fluently.
My Irish parents didn't give a toss about that and to my shame, I know just enough to Slow in response to road signs, and not embarrass myself berating others on the bus.
I would challenge the concept that minorities don't speak Welsh though. I'll grant you that it's rare, but I grew up knowing a few Indians and Sri Lankans who moved to Wales and felt strongly that their children should be able to speak Welsh fluently.
My Irish parents didn't give a toss about that and to my shame, I know just enough to Slow in response to road signs, and not embarrass myself berating others on the bus.
Timmy45 said:
Rh14n said:
I'm really not going to get involved in any big discussion on the Welsh language on here (and yes, I accept that the clip I attached earlier may well not be true) but I really hate having to defend our rights to use our own mother tongue in our own country. The Welsh language is of massive importance to us. Not only is it perfectly natural for us to speak it but with it comes a huge part of our culture, history and identity. Many of you note that a relatively small number of us still speak it but really, is it so difficult to understand that's one of the reasons why we are trying to preserve it? We really don't speak Welsh just to inconvenience the English you know! I know I'm on a hiding to nothing on this forum so will say no more.
I am as Welsh as you, and it is not important to me. This is what infuriates so many Welsh people, that the Welsh language lobby act as though they are the only Welsh people, and that there's is the only voice that matters. You represent 10% of the population but act like the other 90% are inferior/less Welsh than you to you. The Welsh language is not the be all and end all of being Welsh anymore than Gaelic is the be all and end of being Irish or Scottish. Edited by Timmy45 on Wednesday 25th July 14:33
I couldn't care less about the Welsh language. I'd go so far as to say I'd not bat an eyelid if I never had to hear or see it again. It wasn't always this way, but unfortunately having it forced on you at every opportunity gets somewhat tiresome.
I have also lived in Newport for 30 years and have never in that time heard anyone speaking Welsh outside of the enforced classes at school, so I too doubt the veracity of the story.
_Exocet_ said:
Quite.
I couldn't care less about the Welsh language. I'd go so far as to say I'd not bat an eyelid if I never had to hear or see it again. It wasn't always this way, but unfortunately having it forced on you at every opportunity gets somewhat tiresome.
I have also lived in Newport for 30 years and have never in that time heard anyone speaking Welsh outside of the enforced classes at school, so I too doubt the veracity of the story.
At least Welsh is a real language, not a made up one like Cornish. I couldn't care less about the Welsh language. I'd go so far as to say I'd not bat an eyelid if I never had to hear or see it again. It wasn't always this way, but unfortunately having it forced on you at every opportunity gets somewhat tiresome.
I have also lived in Newport for 30 years and have never in that time heard anyone speaking Welsh outside of the enforced classes at school, so I too doubt the veracity of the story.
warch said:
Timmy45 said:
warch said:
Timmy45 said:
This is what infuriates so many Welsh people, that the Welsh language lobby act as though they are the only Welsh people, and that there's is the only voice that matters.
My friend at work often claims he is made to feel like he is not properly Welsh whenever he goes to North-west Wales. He's from Wrexham.Incidentally I am English and have never directly received any anti English abuse or made to feel in any way unwelcome in over 20 years living or working in the country.
I then make the point that as an English person working in these same areas I have never encountered any antipathy.
Celtic Dragon said:
My Welsh is very rusty, but Argyfngy roughly translates as crisis.
The word you're reaching for is Emergency.Rh14n said:
NHS Trust Welsh Ambulance Services.
That. GIG is Welsh for NHS. (Little known fact... There's not one health service but four: NHS England, NHS Scotland, NHS Wales/GIG Cymru and the Health Service of Northern Ireland.)
Though I'm tempted to say that Ymddiriedolaeth, the Welsh Megadeth cover band, will hold a gig in Gwasanaethau in aid of preventing the dumbing down of Ambulances, so come along you.
Edited by blearyeyedboy on Tuesday 31st July 23:40
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