Unfunny Comedians
Discussion
bonerp said:
Richard Ellef Ayoade - the HSBC actor/Brexit hater
I'm saying no more.
I'm a big fan of Aoyade.I'm saying no more.
Have to confess, never heard him really mention Brexit. If he's not a fan (as his is right) he has the good sense to realise that it's currently polarizing and leave it alone.
Even the (oft misinterpreted as anti Brexit) HSBC advert talks about being "Something far far bigger" (or similar) And it talks with pride about various cultural impacts on the UK from around the world. And I suspect that most of the country can get behind that message.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJBbU7GdQWg
Mainly because Brexit was about being anti EU Commission. Not anti Coffee farmers in Costa Rica or Taiwanese bicycle manufacturers. Or even the Austrian bakers who invented the Danish pastry. (true fact that!)
MrGman said:
I'll add Rosie Jones to this as well, sorry but she just annoys me.
eh?Europa1 said:
Joe Wilkinson. To me, he spoils every episode of 8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown that he appears in.
Sorry, disagree. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVT47M8wjcM
Edited by S1KRR on Friday 6th December 21:46
S1KRR said:
He USED to be very good. Very balanced. Attacking all sides.
Then he was interviewed by the face Owen Jones who accused him of "not being Left enough". (I get the impression Tom Walker is pretty much Centre Left)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA6OwzQ-P1Q
He then overdid his show to appeal to that demographic. It's all "Tories this that and the other" "Trump this that and the other" "Brexit this that and other"
Where before I used to enjoy his little (if always a similar style) rants. Now I don't bother to watch any of them
Interesting that his co-writer at the beginning was Andrew Doyle (https://twitter.com/andrewdoyle_com) But I think they don't collaborate so much now. And it shows. AD kept TW balanced IMO
His latest, a real rant against BoJo is certainly...errrm...heart felt!!Then he was interviewed by the face Owen Jones who accused him of "not being Left enough". (I get the impression Tom Walker is pretty much Centre Left)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA6OwzQ-P1Q
He then overdid his show to appeal to that demographic. It's all "Tories this that and the other" "Trump this that and the other" "Brexit this that and other"
Where before I used to enjoy his little (if always a similar style) rants. Now I don't bother to watch any of them
Interesting that his co-writer at the beginning was Andrew Doyle (https://twitter.com/andrewdoyle_com) But I think they don't collaborate so much now. And it shows. AD kept TW balanced IMO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjUWX6S8iYU
Some might say its not far off the mark though
kowalski655 said:
His latest, a real rant against BoJo is certainly...errrm...heart felt!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjUWX6S8iYU
Some might say its not far off the mark though
Some might.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjUWX6S8iYU
Some might say its not far off the mark though
But whilst I wont ever say that Boris is amazing and will do everything he claims. I can see the angle that he's opportunistic. I don't agree with many things he does or says.
But I find it both laughable and depressing that in Pies rant, there are the usual tired fake tropes.
The NHS is broken. True, but to fix it, would involve choices being made that people don't want to allow. (And I don't mean private health care ala USA)
Austerity. Necessary evil IMO. I doubt it was at the behest of the banking sector (which do sort of prop up our economy btw) Brown could have managed the situation better (or had better advice) to lessen the impact. "There's no money left - Good Luck" Ironic that Gordon Brown had the same urge to be prime minister, that he also fked the nation.
Police numbers as Mayor. Well that's interesting. Since whenever anyone says it to that chump Khan he just blames central government. So who ACTUALLY has responsibility?
"Forced disabled people to work" I hate that being used as a bash. If I was ever made disabled. Lets say wheelchair bound. I'd want more than ANYTHING to be in some form of gainful employment. Its better for your morale if nothing else! There's a lump of people that play the system to avoid work and get benefits. We ALL know this. I see "forcing them to work" as a good thing! But it needs to be done carefully by trained assessors. Again not sure this is DIRECTLY BJs fault
Child Poverty? Really?
Education? Not sure he can be held responsible for his parents having the money to pay for education. Give me a Euromillions win and my kids are going to the best schools! (I don't have any yet)
Northern Irelands problems are home grown. They cant agree to go back to power sharing! Has it been 2 or 3 years now? Westminster can actually intervene. Yet we haven't for obvious reasons. Cant blame anyone in Westminster.
And I detest the "hold your nose" argument. And say vote for someone who is blatantly an anti-Semite. Is forever siding with our enemies abroad? And has the financial literacy to cause lasting damage to our economy?
This is all just the same tired "comedy" designed to appeal to the same lefty groups. I don't even know if this is what Tom Walker actually believes. It's his schtick. Surely he's not that naïve. But I guess often with comedy is hard to see the divide between the act and actor.
All I do know is that it's lost it's nuance. It's accuracy. Which means it's just political campaigning and not comedy anymore
Pesty said:
I’m not bored of political jokes.
I just want a bit of balance.
All we get is trump,brexit,trump,brexit,trump.
It’s fking boring and they are trying too hard to hate with no comedy. Usually picking the wrong targets when its other people that have been dicks but trump,brexit.
That guy that got bread rolled. On R4 they said yesterday that it all went down hill when he said brexit voters were idiots.
Hilarious. That’s not humour thats a personal agenda.
There's pretty much an identical rant on the funny comedians thread, and both are spot on.I just want a bit of balance.
All we get is trump,brexit,trump,brexit,trump.
It’s fking boring and they are trying too hard to hate with no comedy. Usually picking the wrong targets when its other people that have been dicks but trump,brexit.
That guy that got bread rolled. On R4 they said yesterday that it all went down hill when he said brexit voters were idiots.
Hilarious. That’s not humour thats a personal agenda.
Too many of them are living in that, dare I say, London town bubble where they get a laugh just for throwing the Trump or Brexit word in even if it's not that relevant.
You see it on various topical shows, Last Leg, Mock the Week, HIGNFY, just bloody lazy.
The other week I got so annoyed with him even unfollowed and muted O'Briain the tosser.
TommyBuoy said:
I saw Milton Jones live last year - it was a bit torturous.
Saw Russell Howard a few months ago - he was ok, put pushed a bit of political guff
Saw Rob Beckett last month and i was in tears at the end.
Russel Howard used to be okay for a chuckle, but around '15, coincidentally, it started feeling like I was watching a " Saw Russell Howard a few months ago - he was ok, put pushed a bit of political guff
Saw Rob Beckett last month and i was in tears at the end.
It's difficult to nail down exactly what's wrong, I've grown up watching HIGNFY and the likes of Ben Elton so I've no fundamental problem with either political humour, politician bashing, or utter lefty tosspots (even if I'm not buying their kool-aid) but there's something condescending and creepy about the "message" today, that's tiring, disturbing, and far from amusing.
We saw Bill Bailey, someone who I rated and respected, do a 2 hour show which was 80% pouring st on brexit. Would have walked out but for the OH only to find afterwards she felt the same way (and she was muchly pro remain) It was all sneering, not funny or witty or clever. So sad.
loafer123 said:
Francesca Martinez
Comedy requires fast talking and brilliant timing.
Her disability means this isn’t possible and, as a result, she is simply not funny.
I think that is incredibly harsh.Comedy requires fast talking and brilliant timing.
Her disability means this isn’t possible and, as a result, she is simply not funny.
You have to make allowances for disabilities and anyone going to see her is aware she has CP.
I don't agree with most of her political views, but a 25 year career as an actress, comedian and author is pretty good going for anyone without a disability.
JulianPH said:
loafer123 said:
Francesca Martinez
Comedy requires fast talking and brilliant timing.
Her disability means this isn’t possible and, as a result, she is simply not funny.
I think that is incredibly harsh.Comedy requires fast talking and brilliant timing.
Her disability means this isn’t possible and, as a result, she is simply not funny.
You have to make allowances for disabilities and anyone going to see her is aware she has CP.
I don't agree with most of her political views, but a 25 year career as an actress, comedian and author is pretty good going for anyone without a disability.
JulianPH said:
loafer123 said:
Francesca Martinez
Comedy requires fast talking and brilliant timing.
Her disability means this isn’t possible and, as a result, she is simply not funny.
I think that is incredibly harsh.Comedy requires fast talking and brilliant timing.
Her disability means this isn’t possible and, as a result, she is simply not funny.
You have to make allowances for disabilities and anyone going to see her is aware she has CP.
I don't agree with most of her political views, but a 25 year career as an actress, comedian and author is pretty good going for anyone without a disability.
She may well be funny if the delivery is taken out of the equation, but it can’t be. Perhaps she would make an epic columnist, but she hasn’t chosen that path.
Cantaloupe said:
It was a strange booking for Nish, it's a mystery why his agent accepted it AND didn't warn him of the likely audience demographic. .
It certainly a learning curve for Nish, in that not everyone likes to be told they are thick for voting for Brexit
in the same manner as those of Asian extraction don't like being told they smell of curry.
i think it's a bit of a common thing over the years; comedian getting caught out for assuming everyone in the audience is left-leaning when they clearly aren't. Corporate bookings even more risky, however surely whoever curated the booking is the one that really needs shooting. Nish has made a bit of a thing about being anti-Brexit etc etc. and he has his on TV show so its not exactly a secret. I am no Leftie by any stretch but maybe that audience would have been better off with Jim Davidson or someone.It certainly a learning curve for Nish, in that not everyone likes to be told they are thick for voting for Brexit
in the same manner as those of Asian extraction don't like being told they smell of curry.
Puggit said:
Down and out said:
You've never heard of Russell Howard then?
I love his (scripted) Good News show.His stand up is dreadful.
jonathan pie is part of this weird recent phenomenon of people who have made internet videos but then decide that social media likes is the same as audience laughs and so embark upon stand-up careers or get an agent or such. Pie's whole thing was that most people liked and shared his stuff because they thought (thickly) that he was a real news reporter who had 'gone off the rails'. No he's just a guy pretending, which is fine, but i wonder how many of those people would bother engaging with his content if they knew that.
S1KRR said:
Sorry, disagree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVT47M8wjcM
Nope, just boring. Which to be fair is a massive step up from 8 out of 10 cats where he is so cringy I switch off.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVT47M8wjcM
Edited by S1KRR on Friday 6th December 21:46
Abbott said:
Tom Allen, Tom Allen, Tom Allen, Tom Allen, Tom Allen, Tom Allen, Tom Allen, Tom Allen, Tom Allen, Tom Allen, Tom Allen, Tom Allen, Tom Allen,
I saw him in stand up a few years ago, before he was well known. His campness, funny faces, and so on were funny initially, for the 10 minute or so slot that he did..He doesn't seem to have moved on though and is clearly out of his depth a lot of the time.
XCP said:
I saw him in stand up a few years ago, before he was well known. His campness, funny faces, and so on were funny initially, for the 10 minute or so slot that he did..
He doesn't seem to have moved on though and is clearly out of his depth a lot of the time.
I must say his routine about the water slide, his aunties' thighs round his waist [ensuring he knew he was definitely gay] is He doesn't seem to have moved on though and is clearly out of his depth a lot of the time.
a 10 minute masterclass of standup.
Edited by Cantaloupe on Friday 20th December 18:19
Cantaloupe said:
XCP said:
I saw him in stand up a few years ago, before he was well known. His campness, funny faces, and so on were funny initially, for the 10 minute or so slot that he did..
He doesn't seem to have moved on though and is clearly out of his depth a lot of the time.
I must say his routine about the water slide, his aunties' thighs round his waist [ensuring he knew he was definitely gay] is He doesn't seem to have moved on though and is clearly out of his depth a lot of the time.
a 10 minute masterclass of standup.
Edited by Cantaloupe on Friday 20th December 18:19
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