Unfunny Comedians

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captain.scarlet

1,824 posts

35 months

Monday 12th February
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ZedLeg said:
The Gauge said:
swisstoni said:
If we were to broaden the category to presenters, I have to say, Claudia Winkleman could replace anyone on that list. She has absolutely stolen a career as far as I can see.

Edited by swisstoni on Sunday 11th February 11:41
It's as if the TV channels know that their current comedians and presenters are a safe bet and wont cause offence, so they stick with them and won't let anyone else in.
Again, are people surprised that producers don't want to mess with successful formulas?
They are the authors of their own misfortune AFAIAC. I get that to an extent there is a degree of 'better the devil you know', but if you have talent and have wanted to make your break, in recent decades none of the old cabal have wanted to share the limelight.

Ergo, dwindling viewing figures and disappearing audiences.

They wonder why all people, but especially the younger generations, gradually aren't bothering with TV.

They've nothing in common with the likes of Claudia Winkleman who, as swisstoni says, has stolen a career. They can find someone of relevance and content of interest away from TV. With all due respect to them, I don't need Mary Berry, Nadia Hussain or the Hairy Bikers to show me how to cook something or share Licence Fee-funded travel shenanigans.

On YouTube, meanwhile, you can get independent, fresh content from everything that TV would give, whether it's sports punditry, current affairs, motoring, nature and wildlife, cookery...

If you go onto platforms like Tiktok, actual TV as a concept itself is now being parodied. That's how outdated and irrelevant it is becoming for increasing numbers of people. It's bemusing to think that that was at one point the only source of audiovisual content and it kept churning out more or less the same stuff.

Sticking with the same people on TV and wheeling them and their has-been content out all the time, or wheeling in someone who may possibly be of interest to certain audiences just to get viewer figures up again, is not working.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

109 months

Monday 12th February
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I don’t think the death of broadcast tv is due to the people on it. Watching tv as broadcast is inconvenient and younger folk would rather manage an app on their phone than a sky box.

I haven’t watched broadcast tv in about 10 years. I still watch the bbc.

The Gauge

1,976 posts

14 months

Monday 12th February
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ZedLeg said:
The Gauge said:
swisstoni said:
If we were to broaden the category to presenters, I have to say, Claudia Winkleman could replace anyone on that list. She has absolutely stolen a career as far as I can see.

Edited by swisstoni on Sunday 11th February 11:41
It's as if the TV channels know that their current comedians and presenters are a safe bet and wont cause offence, so they stick with them and won't let anyone else in.
Again, are people surprised that producers don't want to mess with successful formulas?
The formulas are dire, but they are all we get so that's all there is for folk to watch on TV

Edited by The Gauge on Monday 12th February 18:39

FiF

44,182 posts

252 months

Monday 12th February
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A big part of the problem broadcast TV is facing os down to the collapse in advertising revenue. Except such as the BBC who can forecast quite reasonably their income. Quite bad that they're not performing so well given that.

Weigh into the equation that if you don't have any big hit shows that you can sell any more then it's no wonder that Channel 4 is looking down the gun barrel of real financial issues.

Add in that they're getting unhelpful attitudes from the govt of the day, and we can all argue why that is, curtains in the long run.

Tycho

11,642 posts

274 months

Monday 12th February
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Red9zero said:
Abbott said:
Keema Bob on Celebrity Pointless tonight. My god she is excruciating
I Googled her to see if her voice is put on. It seems not, but that doesn't make it any less annoying. She is very childish too.
She was in QI recently and after 10 seconds I wanted to stick forks in my ears. Devoid of any comedic talent.

Ezra

551 posts

28 months

Monday 12th February
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The Gauge said:
Seems others agree..


Others definitely agree...I'm one. I will simply turn off as soon as she's introduced, TV or Radio. Just dreadful.

Randy Winkman

16,215 posts

190 months

Monday 12th February
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FiF said:
A big part of the problem broadcast TV is facing os down to the collapse in advertising revenue. Except such as the BBC who can forecast quite reasonably their income. Quite bad that they're not performing so well given that.

Weigh into the equation that if you don't have any big hit shows that you can sell any more then it's no wonder that Channel 4 is looking down the gun barrel of real financial issues.

Add in that they're getting unhelpful attitudes from the govt of the day, and we can all argue why that is, curtains in the long run.
Isn't it all going to go that way though? People want stuff but don't want to pay for it, however they see it.

Jefferson Steelflex

1,444 posts

100 months

Tuesday 13th February
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My wife insisted we go and watch Jack Whitehall when he appeared at our local venue in December. Not a fan but haven't really engaged with anything he's done on TV so I was a neutral observer.

My god it was rubbish, an hour of complete gibberish. My wife was pissing herself throughout, as were others of course, and I assumed it was just me. She then decided she had to watch the Netflix recording of the same tour, from a proper venue but the same material, so I sat there while she wet herself again at jokes about his girlfriend and his dad which were even less funny second time around.

And I've decided, it can't just be me. Not a single memorable joke from the whole set for me. It's on Netflix for anyone that can be arsed.

FiF

44,182 posts

252 months

Tuesday 13th February
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Randy Winkman said:
FiF said:
A big part of the problem broadcast TV is facing os down to the collapse in advertising revenue. Except such as the BBC who can forecast quite reasonably their income. Quite bad that they're not performing so well given that.

Weigh into the equation that if you don't have any big hit shows that you can sell any more then it's no wonder that Channel 4 is looking down the gun barrel of real financial issues.

Add in that they're getting unhelpful attitudes from the govt of the day, and we can all argue why that is, curtains in the long run.
Isn't it all going to go that way though? People want stuff but don't want to pay for it, however they see it.
Equally there's a bit of a mickey taking from the streamers, see Jeff 'Ballbag' Bezos adding an extra charge to Prime if you want ad free. Fair enough to add it on the Freeevee channel where you have that choice, free with ads, charge without, but you're already paying for Prime, some included free, much of it rent or buy.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

109 months

Tuesday 13th February
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I cancelled Prime because of that, which is a bit of a pisser as it's the most reliable way to get new motortrend shows.

Blown2CV

28,914 posts

204 months

Tuesday 13th February
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Jefferson Steelflex said:
My wife insisted we go and watch Jack Whitehall when he appeared at our local venue in December. Not a fan but haven't really engaged with anything he's done on TV so I was a neutral observer.

My god it was rubbish, an hour of complete gibberish. My wife was pissing herself throughout, as were others of course, and I assumed it was just me. She then decided she had to watch the Netflix recording of the same tour, from a proper venue but the same material, so I sat there while she wet herself again at jokes about his girlfriend and his dad which were even less funny second time around.

And I've decided, it can't just be me. Not a single memorable joke from the whole set for me. It's on Netflix for anyone that can be arsed.
yea i have to agree his netflix special was crap. Felt very scripted and wooden, and most of the jokes were not funny.

Blown2CV

28,914 posts

204 months

Tuesday 13th February
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i'm never one to get too annoyed about things like that, but seeing the amazon ad-free thing fked me off. It's like ads are always the secret weapon companies have to screw you, even though the charge model was specifically marketed to not be ad revenue driven from the start. You pay the amazon prime fee and that's where they get their money, not through ads.

amazon is on a rapid downhill towards stness anyway. The retail arm is just full of chinese drop-shipped crap now.

bodhi

10,573 posts

230 months

Tuesday 13th February
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FiF said:
Equally there's a bit of a mickey taking from the streamers, see Jeff 'Ballbag' Bezos adding an extra charge to Prime if you want ad free. Fair enough to add it on the Freeevee channel where you have that choice, free with ads, charge without, but you're already paying for Prime, some included free, much of it rent or buy.
That is an utter piss take in my view. So you have your £80 a year for Prime, the £5 or so a month for Prime Video, now another subscription on top?

I'm glad I only really use it to watch Buck Rogers when drunk.

Hammersia

1,564 posts

16 months

Tuesday 13th February
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captain.scarlet said:
They are the authors of their own misfortune AFAIAC. I get that to an extent there is a degree of 'better the devil you know', but if you have talent and have wanted to make your break, in recent decades none of the old cabal have wanted to share the limelight.

Ergo, dwindling viewing figures and disappearing audiences.

They wonder why all people, but especially the younger generations, gradually aren't bothering with TV.

They've nothing in common with the likes of Claudia Winkleman who, as swisstoni says, has stolen a career. They can find someone of relevance and content of interest away from TV. With all due respect to them, I don't need Mary Berry, Nadia Hussain or the Hairy Bikers to show me how to cook something or share Licence Fee-funded travel shenanigans.

On YouTube, meanwhile, you can get independent, fresh content from everything that TV would give, whether it's sports punditry, current affairs, motoring, nature and wildlife, cookery...

If you go onto platforms like Tiktok, actual TV as a concept itself is now being parodied. That's how outdated and irrelevant it is becoming for increasing numbers of people. It's bemusing to think that that was at one point the only source of audiovisual content and it kept churning out more or less the same stuff.

Sticking with the same people on TV and wheeling them and their has-been content out all the time, or wheeling in someone who may possibly be of interest to certain audiences just to get viewer figures up again, is not working.
If it wasn't for youtube I wouldn't have got to know about what they are calling the "Tesla of space heaters"

Anyway I just see all this as market forces, I don't necessarily see a problem with ending up with "American style tv" as surely they don't watch much broadcast stuff either now.

Randy Winkman

16,215 posts

190 months

Tuesday 13th February
quotequote all
Blown2CV said:
Jefferson Steelflex said:
My wife insisted we go and watch Jack Whitehall when he appeared at our local venue in December. Not a fan but haven't really engaged with anything he's done on TV so I was a neutral observer.

My god it was rubbish, an hour of complete gibberish. My wife was pissing herself throughout, as were others of course, and I assumed it was just me. She then decided she had to watch the Netflix recording of the same tour, from a proper venue but the same material, so I sat there while she wet herself again at jokes about his girlfriend and his dad which were even less funny second time around.

And I've decided, it can't just be me. Not a single memorable joke from the whole set for me. It's on Netflix for anyone that can be arsed.
yea i have to agree his netflix special was crap. Felt very scripted and wooden, and most of the jokes were not funny.
As a 58 year old I cant get my head around that sort of hero-worship. My experience of live comedy was as a 20 something I'd go with mates to Woolwich Tramshed once in a while and just watch whoever was on. Nearly always 1 or 2 really good ones (Dee, Evans, Mark Thomas, Bob Mills, Felix Dexter etc) but also 1 or 2 that got the most horrendous abuse, possibly from local squadies. Every time I see Jenny Eclair on Tv now (which tends to be in talking heads shows) I feel admiration for the way she stuck up for herself one night at the tramshed. It was heckling of epic proportions.

captain.scarlet

1,824 posts

35 months

Tuesday 13th February
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Hammersia said:
captain.scarlet said:
They are the authors of their own misfortune AFAIAC. I get that to an extent there is a degree of 'better the devil you know', but if you have talent and have wanted to make your break, in recent decades none of the old cabal have wanted to share the limelight.

Ergo, dwindling viewing figures and disappearing audiences.

They wonder why all people, but especially the younger generations, gradually aren't bothering with TV.

They've nothing in common with the likes of Claudia Winkleman who, as swisstoni says, has stolen a career. They can find someone of relevance and content of interest away from TV. With all due respect to them, I don't need Mary Berry, Nadia Hussain or the Hairy Bikers to show me how to cook something or share Licence Fee-funded travel shenanigans.

On YouTube, meanwhile, you can get independent, fresh content from everything that TV would give, whether it's sports punditry, current affairs, motoring, nature and wildlife, cookery...

If you go onto platforms like Tiktok, actual TV as a concept itself is now being parodied. That's how outdated and irrelevant it is becoming for increasing numbers of people. It's bemusing to think that that was at one point the only source of audiovisual content and it kept churning out more or less the same stuff.

Sticking with the same people on TV and wheeling them and their has-been content out all the time, or wheeling in someone who may possibly be of interest to certain audiences just to get viewer figures up again, is not working.
If it wasn't for youtube I wouldn't have got to know about what they are calling the "Tesla of space heaters"

Anyway I just see all this as market forces, I don't necessarily see a problem with ending up with "American style tv" as surely they don't watch much broadcast stuff either now.
Groundbreaking stuff, those heaters.

Depending on which country you're in, it was either the brainchild of a high school student from Edinburgh or somehwere in Germany.

Bluevanman

7,347 posts

194 months

Tuesday 13th February
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captain.scarlet said:
Groundbreaking stuff, those heaters.

Depending on which country you're in, it was either the brainchild of a high school student from Edinburgh or somehwere in Germany.
What are these heaters you're talking about?

Hammersia

1,564 posts

16 months

Tuesday 13th February
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Bluevanman said:
captain.scarlet said:
Groundbreaking stuff, those heaters.

Depending on which country you're in, it was either the brainchild of a high school student from Edinburgh or somehwere in Germany.
What are these heaters you're talking about?
Now you've typed it it will be popping up on your youtube feed tonight, no need to thank me, they'll change your life.

Se7enheaven

1,726 posts

165 months

Tuesday 13th February
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Tycho said:
Red9zero said:
Abbott said:
Keema Bob on Celebrity Pointless tonight. My god she is excruciating
I Googled her to see if her voice is put on. It seems not, but that doesn't make it any less annoying. She is very childish too.
She was in QI recently and after 10 seconds I wanted to stick forks in my ears. Devoid of any comedic talent.
Had no clue who this Kemah Bob was , so made the mistake of a YouTube search. In the name of juddering fk. Anyone brave enough to listen there is a link below.
If the audience members seen laughing in the clip because they genuinely believe this person is funny ,rather than being financially rewarded , then they should all be painfully tortured as it’s only encouraging more of this st.

https://youtu.be/XMwZnO7teGA?si=_GGlJnLQ0rT3om3j

Richard-390a0

2,260 posts

92 months

Tuesday 13th February
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Ezra said:
The Gauge said:
Seems others agree..


Others definitely agree...I'm one. I will simply turn off as soon as she's introduced, TV or Radio. Just dreadful.