So who was caned at school?

[singlecoil]

Bannock said:

Really. Abuse amounting to grevious bodily harm against children is a good system which works well. Really. I'd love, LOVE to see your evidence for this outrageous claim...

You're obviously not a man to be argued with on this topic. I'm assuming that's typo in your post above.

[Bannock]

singlecoil said:

Bannock said:

Really. Abuse amounting to grevious bodily harm against children is a good system which works well. Really. I'd love, LOVE to see your evidence for this outrageous claim...

You're obviously not a man to be argued with on this topic. I'm assuming that's typo in your post above.

Why, am I going to get caned for whatever typo you think I've made?

Bottom line is this: assault against adults is, and has been since this civilisation was worth living in, illegal. Why anyone thinks there should be an exception allowing the assault of children is completely beyond my understanding. Shall we start beating our wives again to teach them a lesson? No? Then why our children?

Edited by Bannock on Thursday 27th January 16:15

[blueg33]

Bannock said:

singlecoil said:

Bannock said:

Really. Abuse amounting to grevious bodily harm against children is a good system which works well. Really. I'd love, LOVE to see your evidence for this outrageous claim...

You're obviously not a man to be argued with on this topic. I'm assuming that's typo in your post above.

Why, am I going to get caned for whatever typo you think I've made?

Bottom line is this: assault against adults is, and has been since this civilisation was worth living in, illegal. Why anyone thinks there should be an exception allowing the assult of children is completely beyond my understanding. Shall we start beating our wives again to teach them a lesson? No? Then why our children?

Nice pun - the cane definitely leave lines on the bottom

I agree with you on corporal punishment

[Candellara]

Bannock said:

Why, am I going to get caned for whatever typo you think I've made?

Bottom line is this: assault against adults is, and has been since this civilisation was worth living in, illegal. Why anyone thinks there should be an exception allowing the assault of children is completely beyond my understanding. Shall we start beating our wives again to teach them a lesson? No? Then why our children?

Edited by Bannock on Thursday 27th January 16:15

I'm guessing you don't agree with the torture of terrorists or prison either?

[Bannock]

Candellara said:

I'm guessing you don't agree with the torture of terrorists or prison either?

No I don't agree with the torture of anyone, torture of terrorists has proven to be counter-productive, and I believe the prison system is outdated and needs significant reform. However loss of liberty is part of the correct response to some crimes.

I'm guessing you think we should torture anyone we fancy, and "throw away the key" or preferably hang people convicted of serious crime? And physically assault children as a disciplinary measure? Allow domestic violence when women "deserve" it?

[DocJock]

No cane at my schools, just the tawse...

[Halmyre]

Candellara said:

Bannock said:

Why, am I going to get caned for whatever typo you think I've made?

Bottom line is this: assault against adults is, and has been since this civilisation was worth living in, illegal. Why anyone thinks there should be an exception allowing the assault of children is completely beyond my understanding. Shall we start beating our wives again to teach them a lesson? No? Then why our children?

Edited by Bannock on Thursday 27th January 16:15

I'm guessing you don't agree with the torture of terrorists or prison either?

Those are on two very different levels - why would you lump them together?

[jontysafe]

Yup caned, along with dozens of my year.

Was on the front page of The Sun as well 🤣

Possibly one of the last public school episodes of corporal punishment.

[Bannock]

Halmyre said:

Candellara said:

Bannock said:

Why, am I going to get caned for whatever typo you think I've made?

Bottom line is this: assault against adults is, and has been since this civilisation was worth living in, illegal. Why anyone thinks there should be an exception allowing the assault of children is completely beyond my understanding. Shall we start beating our wives again to teach them a lesson? No? Then why our children?

Edited by Bannock on Thursday 27th January 16:15

I'm guessing you don't agree with the torture of terrorists or prison either?

Those are on two very different levels - why would you lump them together?

Because he's trying to smoke out a "lefty liberal hand wringing bed wetting woke pinko commie" to try to humiliate with his amazing alpha male right wing hardness, in order to harvest the hot remoaner tears to drink.

[blueg33]

Sod corporal punishment, I've come across kids that need capital punishment










before people get upset....................not serious as an actual policy

[neilr]

Caning was already banned when i was at Secondary school but i remember a sadistic teacher when i was in primary school hitting kids on the hand hard with a ruler. 5 - 6 year old kids properly reduced to tears, she should never have been anywhere near children.

Another teacher at secondary school was a vicious , she slapped kids in the face very hard many times. locked them (including my mate) in a cupboard and would leave them there for at least an hour. She was another nutjob who should have never been allowed near kids. She was never pulled up for it even though everyone, kids and teachers alike knew what she did. Even after punching a girl in the breast and said girls father going up to the school and doing the same to here and then saying "now you know what it feels like" nothing happened to her. I always wondered what dirt she had on people there to prevent her being at best fired or more appropriately investigated officially.

There is good news though, and that is that she died recently, I was lucky enough to escape her assaults but she left a lot of kids with issues from her behaviour. Her death brought smile to mine and many other peoples faces who remember her.

I got hit by board rubbers to the head which were hurled for the slightest infringement (although catching one and throwing it back wasn't appreciated) which resulted in the sharp end of a set square to the head, that hurt a lot. He was known for it but it didn't do the job he hoped it would, we just thought he was a (and we were right). Looking back i pity weak people like him, we weren't an out of control rabble, but he thought being 10 seconds late gave him the authority to bully kids with violence. I saw him a few years ago in a supermarket when visiting my parents, i thought about telling him what a poor teacher he had been but he looked rather pathetic, as if life had already done that, so I didn't bother, would have only made me as bad as him.

[singlecoil]

Bannock said:

Candellara said:

I'm guessing you don't agree with the torture of terrorists or prison either?

No I don't agree with the torture of anyone, torture of terrorists has proven to be counter-productive, and I believe the prison system is outdated and needs significant reform. However loss of liberty is part of the correct response to some crimes.

I'm guessing you think we should torture anyone we fancy, and "throw away the key" or preferably hang people convicted of serious crime? And physically assault children as a disciplinary measure? Allow domestic violence when women "deserve" it?

[Candellara]

singlecoil said:

Bannock said:

Candellara said:

I'm guessing you don't agree with the torture of terrorists or prison either?

No I don't agree with the torture of anyone, torture of terrorists has proven to be counter-productive, and I believe the prison system is outdated and needs significant reform. However loss of liberty is part of the correct response to some crimes.

I'm guessing you think we should torture anyone we fancy, and "throw away the key" or preferably hang people convicted of serious crime? And physically assault children as a disciplinary measure? Allow domestic violence when women "deserve" it?

Torture of terrorists - anything goes with terrorists as far as i'm concerned. Prison - 3 strikes and you're out is the way forward. So, yes build more prisons and put away serial offenders for longer.

Children and caning, no. Despite being punished this way as a teenager, time moves on in this respect but i'm in favour of much more draconian measures such as taking persistent youth offenders / school disruptors and placing them away from their families into youth detention centres.

Domestic violence, again - no (and remember it happens also to men as well as women). Most of this is driven by drugs or alcohol so i'd make serious reforms in terms of drugs (most offenders would be in prison) and alcohol would see huge increases in tax.

Inmates would be put to work on social service programs such as cleaning road signs, helping in care homes etc and i'd introduce social or national service for young people after they leave schooling (mandatory).

[Dog Star]

I didn't, but caning was policy at my school. However you were as likely to get a kicking off the teachers - I remember one of my classmates said "hi sir" to our Ancient Greek teacher - an ex-army colonel. In our school with some "traditional" teachers, modern terms like "hi" and "ok" were yobbish. Anyway, said chap copped a proper kicking in the corridor for his use of "hi" - as teacher walked away leaving him lying on the floor he said "don't ever be so disrespectful to me again".

I generally steered clear of such trouble - although I caused massive consternation and ended up with letters to my parents from the HM when they found out that I had a Saturday job in Tesco. Outrage!

[lost in espace]

1974 Clitheroe primary school, we had a Headteacher who was ex military I seem to recall he wore a beret but that could be that I was 6 at the time.

Running down a corridor and a door flies opens and floors me, get to my feet to be hit about the head by the Headteacher and shouted at for running down a corridor.

[Dog Star]

lost in espace said:

Running down a corridor and a door flies opens and floors me, get to my feet to be hit about the head by the Headteacher and shouted at for running down a corridor.

My school (see above) - running in the corridors was a caning offence.

[Petrus1983]

I was in school in the late 80’s/early 90’s and caning must have been banned by then - but it still happened. Not often though, and never to me. I remember being in class one day and a friend got properly hit over the head with a wooden ruler by the teacher for no reason.

Teacher - “Do you know why I did that?”
Friend - “No sir”
Teacher - “To show you life’s not fair”
WHACK again…
Teacher - “Now do you know why I did that!?”
Friend - “Because life’s not fair sir”
Teacher - “That was a valuable lesson wasn’t it” - and walks off.

[kevinon]

I appreciate some of the people on here being open about their experiences. Fair play to you all.

The Irish education system supported a fair few sadistic teachers, and if they were priests they surely must have been conflicted, no?

I struggle with supporters of the 'hang em, flog em' approach, because I can't see any evidence that it makes for a better society or better people.
The worst Dads I know believe that their kids, (or the kids of their partner, or kids in general) just need more discipline. The Dads I have in mind are actually stunted people, with little self-awareness, and have actually had disciplinarian parents themselves. And they think they're OK nonetheless. Ironic really.

[Dog Star]

kevinon said:

I appreciate some of the people on here being open about their experiences. Fair play to you all.

The Irish education system supported a fair few sadistic teachers, and if they were priests they surely must have been conflicted, no?

I struggle with supporters of the 'hang em, flog em' approach, because I can't see any evidence that it makes for a better society or better people.
The worst Dads I know believe that their kids, (or the kids of their partner, or kids in general) just need more discipline. The Dads I have in mind are actually stunted people, with little self-awareness, and have actually had disciplinarian parents themselves. And they think they're OK nonetheless. Ironic really.

My school was pretty violent compared to this touchy feely crap we get now; it was a boys private grammar school (I don’t want suing so I’m saying no more) but I loved it, and generally speaking I think the teachers did a great job.

Having said that if I was to mete out the punishments that I consider acceptable if I had a child now I’d probably get arrested and the child repossessed by the council. A lot of kids could do with a thick ear.

[djcube]

Never caned but got the "dap" (plimsoll) across my backside a few times. Most boys did for the most trivial of reasons. The cane was still allowed.
Several teachers used physical means to discipline pupils, one lad, the sort of guy who never caused or was involved any trouble got one hell of a slap on the side of the head for some reason that never became clear. Obviously hurt he was sent home. An hour or so later the classroom door bursts open, the lads Dad walks in, throws a massive punch that knocked the teacher across the room. We sat there utterly stunned. The dad leans over the teacher and says something to him then walks off. Teacher eventually gets up, leaves the room and returns with the head master.
While the teacher was out of the room the class decided to say nothing so when the head master demanded we tell him what happened, we just sat there in silence. We were told to report for detention, we didn't.
Never heard anymore about the incident, almost like it never happened.
We, the class, became the most popular group in school for a short while, we made sure everyone knew what happened. For a while we were so grateful for that double period of purgatory.
On the downside, the lad who was hit by the teacher suffered hearing problems for a while, I think normal hearing returned eventually.