I honestly don't believe it....

I honestly don't believe it....

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Fruitcake

3,850 posts

227 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Four Cofffee said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Why does this never happen to me I would love to have a rant at these idiots.
Buy more spoons.
And shop at Tesco

Gareth79

7,718 posts

247 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Marf said:
Goliath205 said:
I got ID'd to buy a pack of 5 teaspoons in Tesco yesterday!
I've heard this a couple of times now. Seems to me the implication is that its OK to shoot your arm full of heroin so long as your over 18.
The official explanation is that all cutlery produces the ID warning because knives might be in the pack, although I doubt their product management systems are *that* poor. Somebody could break a knife out another pack and put it in there, but you could just as shoplift it properly!

Cotty

39,642 posts

285 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Alfanatic said:
That's just insane. Does a single parent need to hire a babysitter whenever they want to buy booze?
Pretty much in the indicated store.

Problem is underage till staff in any store not allowed to verify age. I saw a grey haired old lady trying to buy alcohol and had to have a supervisor authorise the sale. Fair enough otherwise they could serve their underage pals.

deevlash

10,442 posts

238 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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longblackcoat said:
If this happens, simply refuse to move and request that the pinhead checkout bod summons their manager. If said manager doesn't sort it, repeat, this time with the store manager.

No point shouting or in any way arguing with the muppet on the till, they haven't got a clue.

I'm a serial complainer in supermarkets, though usually over incorrect pricing. Being patient and making your point to someone who can actually make a decision usually pays off.
A manager will never override a checkout operators decision. I hate people like you, quite a lot of the checkout operators will be students etc, the countries future lawyers and leaders of enterprise. Just because mummy and daddy havent funded their education and theyre working doesnt give you the right to belittle them. Even if theyre not a uni student or whatever, at least theyre working and not scrounging off the state. In scotland at least those "pin heads" will have just had to pass a short exam on the subject of the new licensing laws so they probably know a damn site more about it than you appear to.

Also, if they do get entrapped by trading standards using a kid to go in and buy booze undercover they get a £20k fine, a criminal record and will almost certainly lose their job. In the situation where youre refused alcohol, its the state that has created the situation where its easier to refuse the sale than risk the consequences. Admittedly Tescos application of the policy seems somewhat moronic but ho hum.

Oh as for people who complain pricing issues, 99.9% of them are idiots who cant read tickets properly anyway.


Jasandjules

69,985 posts

230 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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So then the person with a child just asks the person behind to look after their kid whilst they buy the booze?

We really live in a f***ed up Nanny State.

I say we all get together and buy some painkillers, and when they ask if they are for you, we say yes, just gonna top myself tonight.........................

elster

17,517 posts

211 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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deevlash said:
longblackcoat said:
If this happens, simply refuse to move and request that the pinhead checkout bod summons their manager. If said manager doesn't sort it, repeat, this time with the store manager.

No point shouting or in any way arguing with the muppet on the till, they haven't got a clue.

I'm a serial complainer in supermarkets, though usually over incorrect pricing. Being patient and making your point to someone who can actually make a decision usually pays off.
A manager will never override a checkout operators decision. I hate people like you, quite a lot of the checkout operators will be students etc, the countries future lawyers and leaders of enterprise. Just because mummy and daddy havent funded their education and theyre working doesnt give you the right to belittle them. Even if theyre not a uni student or whatever, at least theyre working and not scrounging off the state. In scotland at least those "pin heads" will have just had to pass a short exam on the subject of the new licensing laws so they probably know a damn site more about it than you appear to.

Also, if they do get entrapped by trading standards using a kid to go in and buy booze undercover they get a £20k fine, a criminal record and will almost certainly lose their job. In the situation where youre refused alcohol, its the state that has created the situation where its easier to refuse the sale than risk the consequences. Admittedly Tescos application of the policy seems somewhat moronic but ho hum.

Oh as for people who complain pricing issues, 99.9% of them are idiots who cant read tickets properly anyway.
Hmm of the several times the manager has been asked for by me they have over ruled the fool on the counter.

As for them knowing the licencing laws, I think they need to read them again. They clearly don't know them if they feel the need to refuse a sale if someone is with a minor.

eldar

21,855 posts

197 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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Fruitcake said:
Four Cofffee said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Why does this never happen to me I would love to have a rant at these idiots.
Buy more spoons.
And shop at Tesco
And buy a chainsaw, more blood than teaspoons....

deevlash

10,442 posts

238 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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I dont know what particular company you were shopping with but with mine its company policy not to overrule the checkout operator. It is quite acceptable for the checkout operator to refuse sale until a manager is present and gives the go ahead though.

In Tescos case it would appear that theyre are being massively over zealous and given the amount of threads on here about this situation it would appear to actually be becoming policy to refuse sale to anyone if theyre with an underager. Whether thats just a misinterpretation of the rules on the part of (lots of) the cashiers or poor training I dont know as I dont work for them.

The actual law, in scotland merely states that if you believe the booze is being bought for consumption by a minor you must refuse sale.

HRG.

72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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deevlash said:
I dont know what particular company you were shopping with but with mine its company policy not to overrule the checkout operator. It is quite acceptable for the checkout operator to refuse sale until a manager is present and gives the go ahead though.

In Tescos case it would appear that theyre are being massively over zealous and given the amount of threads on here about this situation it would appear to actually be becoming policy to refuse sale to anyone if theyre with an underager. Whether thats just a misinterpretation of the rules on the part of (lots of) the cashiers or poor training I dont know as I dont work for them.

The actual law, in scotland merely states that if you believe the booze is being bought for consumption by a minor you must refuse sale.
I'd drop the booze on the floor and walk out if I was faced with this stupidity.

deevlash

10,442 posts

238 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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HRG. said:
I'd drop the booze on the floor and walk out if I was faced with this stupidity.
I'd have you charged with criminal damage and breach of the peace wink

freecar

4,249 posts

188 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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This has given me an idea.

See I wanted to be a school caretaker until that fella ruined it for everyone.


Now I can set up an unlicensed creche in my van in tesco car park and all the desperate parents wanting to do some adult shopping can leave little tarquin with me (no girls!! No insurance or something!) and buy their beer in peace. Don't mind if he is crying when you get him back it's quite common that!!!

(what goes before for the humourly challenged is not true, I was saying(posting?) it for a cheap shock laugh!)

In all seriousness, what is tesco's game? There in so law that says you can't buy alcohol in the presence of minors. Nor is there a law preventing you from buying alcohol and giving it to your child. The only law is one to prevent you buying alcohol for children that are not related to you.


But then I get the same in the chemists bit, have you had these before? Are you taking anything else? You can only have one pack at a time! The last time one tried this I said in no uncertain terms, that as I am responsible for the medical procurement of three people, one being treated for cancer that I would do as the doctor tells me not as some "pharmacist" tells me. just for clarity this was because they were trying to not sell me some painkillers that the doctor told me to get for my mum. She was being prescribed codeine and as the solpadeine had it in too they didn't want to sell me them. I'll have to speak to the manager she says! As none of them knew the maximum daily dosage for codeine anyway I objected to being asked as the only possible alternative outcome was my mum in increased pain.

I am only 30 but am becoming increasingly less tolerant of jobsworthness.

HRG.

72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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deevlash said:
HRG. said:
I'd drop the booze on the floor and walk out if I was faced with this stupidity.
I'd have you charged with criminal damage and breach of the peace wink
It would be an accident...

otolith

56,356 posts

205 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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deevlash said:
The actual law, in scotland merely states that if you believe the booze is being bought for consumption by a minor you must refuse sale.
To be fair, there is a huge problem in Scotland with mothers purchasing Sauvignon blanc for their toddlers.

Hang on, no, I'm thinking of chips.

deevlash

10,442 posts

238 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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HRG. said:
deevlash said:
HRG. said:
I'd drop the booze on the floor and walk out if I was faced with this stupidity.
I'd have you charged with criminal damage and breach of the peace wink
It would be an accident...
bloody customers hehe

HRG.

72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 15th September 2009
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deevlash said:
HRG. said:
deevlash said:
HRG. said:
I'd drop the booze on the floor and walk out if I was faced with this stupidity.
I'd have you charged with criminal damage and breach of the peace wink
It would be an accident...
bloody customers hehe
I'm everso sorry...

samdale

2,860 posts

185 months

Wednesday 16th September 2009
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just been to asda this evening and got ID'd for beers. im 21, my mate is 19. he says my id is fine and hands it back turns to my mate and says neither of you can have ANY of this stuff as this is fake. stood there for a good 10 mins while he winds up my mate (although he did turn to me and wisper "im joking") and continued to wind up my mate. finally tells him he's joking, should have seen my mates face.

nice to see a few of the staff at least have a sense of humour but even i just wanted him to fk off and just let me pay.
ing nut-job.

sstw

1,050 posts

188 months

Wednesday 16th September 2009
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I saw this happen earlier. Tesco must have gone mad!

Bloke in front of me at the checkout in his early 20s shows his ID to buy some drinks. A couple of his mates are waiting for him by the exit. Cashier spots them and refuses to sell the guy the Beer unless his mates come over and show their ID. His mates are a good 10 yards away, half out the door and not buying anything! His mates think its ridiculous and walk out, which prompts the guy to ring them telling them to come back in because the cashier is refusing to serve him other wise. Crazy

Derek Withers

869 posts

187 months

Wednesday 16th September 2009
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I got IDed on Monday for a packet of tobacco in Waitrose. I didn't have any because I'm 38, thankfully the newsagent up the road were a bit more sensible.

Corpulent Tosser

5,459 posts

246 months

Wednesday 16th September 2009
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I really find it difficult to believe that a company could be so stupid, but I have heard so many example I think I am going to have to borrow my grandaughter and go to Tesco to buy a load of groceries, and some wine, just to see if it happens.

HUW JONES

1,986 posts

204 months

Wednesday 16th September 2009
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Corpulent Tosser said:
I really find it difficult to believe that a company could be so stupid, but I have heard so many example I think I am going to have to borrow my grandaughter and go to Tesco to buy a load of groceries, and some wine, just to see if it happens.
...make sure you pile it high with frozen goods..they might get the message when the skips are full of defrosting products.