If the UK went to war tomorrow
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6655321 said:
Justayellowbadge said:
6655321 said:
Justayellowbadge said:
working class said:
Without question.
This.
Explain.
Justayellowbadge said:
6655321 said:
Justayellowbadge said:
6655321 said:
Justayellowbadge said:
working class said:
Without question.
This.Explain.
It's not rocket science. "...without question", regardless of what the war was for, or based on? You wouldn't question anything? You'd happily head off to risk your life no matter what the cause was? Oh, and there was no "accusation"... I thought the Hitler comment was fairly plain.Edited by 6655321 on Wednesday 28th October 01:46
So, to all you "Nay Sayers", how do you feel about all the young lads and lasses out in Afghanistan at this moment, fighting the "enemy" and all the poor souls getting killed in the process?
Do you think they are doing it because they love it, (maybe they do), do they really want to be away from their loved ones and get shot at, and please dont come back with that old, "Oh but they knew what they were doing, it was their choice to join up", yes of course it was their choice. And their choice was to get up and do something about the growing threat of terrorism, or maybe they just wanted something a little more exciting in life, instead of sat on their backsides moaning about the weather, or how much it will cost to change the water pump at the main dealer.
If conscription or National Service, as it was known, was in force and you were of the correct age then you would be called upon to "serve", like it or not you would either join up or be sent to prison and labelled a "Pansy" for the rest of your life.
Looking at this thread i can see quite a few Pansies.....
Do you think they are doing it because they love it, (maybe they do), do they really want to be away from their loved ones and get shot at, and please dont come back with that old, "Oh but they knew what they were doing, it was their choice to join up", yes of course it was their choice. And their choice was to get up and do something about the growing threat of terrorism, or maybe they just wanted something a little more exciting in life, instead of sat on their backsides moaning about the weather, or how much it will cost to change the water pump at the main dealer.
If conscription or National Service, as it was known, was in force and you were of the correct age then you would be called upon to "serve", like it or not you would either join up or be sent to prison and labelled a "Pansy" for the rest of your life.
Looking at this thread i can see quite a few Pansies.....
phumy said:
So, to all you "Nay Sayers", how do you feel about all the young lads and lasses out in Afghanistan at this moment, fighting the "enemy" and all the poor souls getting killed in the process?
Do you think they are doing it because they love it, (maybe they do), do they really want to be away from their loved ones and get shot at, and please dont come back with that old, "Oh but they knew what they were doing, it was their choice to join up", yes of course it was their choice. And their choice was to get up and do something about the growing threat of terrorism, or maybe they just wanted something a little more exciting in life, instead of sat on their backsides moaning about the weather, or how much it will cost to change the water pump at the main dealer.
If conscription or National Service, as it was known, was in force and you were of the correct age then you would be called upon to "serve", like it or not you would either join up or be sent to prison and labelled a "Pansy" for the rest of your life.
Looking at this thread i can see quite a few Pansies.....
Do you think they are doing it because they love it, (maybe they do), do they really want to be away from their loved ones and get shot at, and please dont come back with that old, "Oh but they knew what they were doing, it was their choice to join up", yes of course it was their choice. And their choice was to get up and do something about the growing threat of terrorism, or maybe they just wanted something a little more exciting in life, instead of sat on their backsides moaning about the weather, or how much it will cost to change the water pump at the main dealer.
If conscription or National Service, as it was known, was in force and you were of the correct age then you would be called upon to "serve", like it or not you would either join up or be sent to prison and labelled a "Pansy" for the rest of your life.
Looking at this thread i can see quite a few Pansies.....
No really, that was some funny stuff you just prattled. Look at the original question.
OP said:
would you be willing to fight and die for your country?
So, can you not see the difference in what YOU have come back and argued, and the question? As for the 'pansies' statement.. I work in one of the more dangerous fields in the world, (I work at sea in vessels about the same size as a mersey ferry, in the North Sea, Nigeria, Gabon, Brazil, Saudi, UAE, etc), so don't give it the whole 'pansies' b
ks.Edited by 6655321 on Wednesday 28th October 02:36
phumy said:
It was aimed at the people who answered no to the OP, that they wouldnt fight or die for their country at a time of war, read "Nay Sayers"
And what has where you work, go to do with being a pansy?
Well pansy = Big scaredy catAnd what has where you work, go to do with being a pansy?
Big scaredy cat = Put yourself in no physical danger
No physical danger = Office job, all safe and tucked up...
6655321 said:
phumy said:
It was aimed at the people who answered no to the OP, that they wouldnt fight or die for their country at a time of war, read "Nay Sayers"
And what has where you work, go to do with being a pansy?
Well pansy = Big scaredy catAnd what has where you work, go to do with being a pansy?
Big scaredy cat = Put yourself in no physical danger
No physical danger = Office job, all safe and tucked up...
d from telling me I was no longer allowed to practice my faith/religion of choice, by invading this country, then yes, I'd take up arms. I say this as someone who wasn't born in this country but now calls it home. I would fight for the future of my children who are British citizens and for the way of life my British ancestors would have wanted them to have. I'm thankful for the men and women who are already defending this country, so that I don't yet need to.
what if, for example, nulabour did create some even more restricted state, no dissent allowed, rigged elections if any at all (no fast cars or alcohol either for the sake of argument)
imagine Nazi Germany or Saddam's Iraq or something
then someone else, say America, decided to invade Britain to get rid of the repressive regime and free the people from its tyranny
Would you fight 'for Britain'? Which side would that be then?
imagine Nazi Germany or Saddam's Iraq or something
then someone else, say America, decided to invade Britain to get rid of the repressive regime and free the people from its tyranny
Would you fight 'for Britain'? Which side would that be then?
phumy said:
So, to all you "Nay Sayers", how do you feel about all the young lads and lasses out in Afghanistan at this moment, fighting the "enemy" and all the poor souls getting killed in the process?
Do you think they are doing it because they love it, (maybe they do), do they really want to be away from their loved ones and get shot at, and please dont come back with that old, "Oh but they knew what they were doing, it was their choice to join up", yes of course it was their choice. And their choice was to get up and do something about the growing threat of terrorism, or maybe they just wanted something a little more exciting in life, instead of sat on their backsides moaning about the weather, or how much it will cost to change the water pump at the main dealer.
If conscription or National Service, as it was known, was in force and you were of the correct age then you would be called upon to "serve", like it or not you would either join up or be sent to prison and labelled a "Pansy" for the rest of your life.
Looking at this thread i can see quite a few Pansies.....
this is nonsense.Do you think they are doing it because they love it, (maybe they do), do they really want to be away from their loved ones and get shot at, and please dont come back with that old, "Oh but they knew what they were doing, it was their choice to join up", yes of course it was their choice. And their choice was to get up and do something about the growing threat of terrorism, or maybe they just wanted something a little more exciting in life, instead of sat on their backsides moaning about the weather, or how much it will cost to change the water pump at the main dealer.
If conscription or National Service, as it was known, was in force and you were of the correct age then you would be called upon to "serve", like it or not you would either join up or be sent to prison and labelled a "Pansy" for the rest of your life.
Looking at this thread i can see quite a few Pansies.....
firstly, your moral stance does not determine if you are a 'pansy' or not.
I would probably fight to defend the UK from a foreign aggressor, but I wouldn't willingly fight in a war we started.
I think the guys in the armed forces today joined up because they chose that as the job they wanted to do. We have professional armed forces, which means that people in the armed forces are doing it as a career. Signing up therefore means you have taken the decision to prosecute the decisions of the government regarding the actions of the armed forces regardless of your personal opinions on those decisions. That's your job. It has nothing to do with patriotism, national pride, etc. (though this may be a handy recruiting aid for the Army to fill its lower ranks).
I work in a nice cushy university... but the fact I work with poisonous/flammable/explosive stuff every day gives me the hint of danger I need to thrive on
andy400 said:
6655321 said:
I work in one of the more dangerous fields in the world, (I work at sea in vessels about the same size as a mersey ferry, in the North Sea, Nigeria, Gabon, Brazil, Saudi, UAE, etc)
Pansy.I'm a lion tamer. In a dinghy. In the Weddell Sea.
I fight super great White sharks in the bearing straight (these sharks like ice) I stand on a small wooden raft in my underwear with nothing more than marbles to throw at them!
phumy said:
If conscription or National Service, as it was known, was in force and you were of the correct age then you would be called upon to "serve", like it or not you would either join up or be sent to prison and labelled a "Pansy" for the rest of your life.
Looking at this thread i can see quite a few Pansies.....
You need to watch a program with Ian Hislop that was on the other night, was about CO's. They were not pansys, and the hardline absolutists were tough buggers to take the amount of physical and mental abuse that was poured on them.Looking at this thread i can see quite a few Pansies.....
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